Thursday, October 31, 2024

A Million Floridians to be Kicked Out Under Trump's Plans

As many as one in 20 Floridians, a million people, could be expelled from the country under a mass deportation plan that is a cornerstone of former president Donald Trump's campaign, according to a report released by a Washington think tank and immigration advocacy group.

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"The American Immigration Council, based in Washington D.C., put numbers to Trump's sweeping plan to deport 13.3 million undocumented or otherwise removable immigrants in the United States should he return to the White House. The immigration advocacy think tank found that the policy would be economically devastating for Florida, one of the states with the largest foreign-born populations, as well as for the country overall.:

#1 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-10-30 09:04 PM

A million less Floridians isn't the best argument for me.

That actually sounds pretty good

#2 | Posted by eberly at 2024-10-30 09:11 PM

Supplemental article:

Do Americans who support mass deportation, detention camps know what it would be like?

The writer Radley Balko--who was years ahead of the pack on the issue of militarized policing in America-- wrote in his newsletter back in May that Trump's call to deport 15 million immigrants would round up more people than experts believe are currently in the United States without documentation (likely closer to 11 million). To reach that target, Trump's mass deportation would likely include millions now here legally " the "Dreamers" brought to America as children, others currently with protected status such as Haitians, even family members of the undocumented.

The 15 million figure, Balko noted, is larger than the entire population of Pennsylvania. It would be the largest forced migration of human beings since " you guessed it " World War II. The size of the operation to deport this many people would be similarly unbelievable. He noted that the most conservative cost figures for deportation bring a price tag of at least $210 billion, or more than we spend on the entire U.S. Army. The logistics of buses, housing, and other necessary infrastructure both for migrants but also Trump's deportation army are incomprehensible.

"You don't even try something like this unless you aspire to have an authoritarian government behind you," a Tennessee immigrant-rights advocate, Lisa Sherman Luna, told Balko. "You're talking about soldiers marching through neighborhoods across the country, pulling families out of their homes."

www.inquirer.com

#3 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-10-30 09:14 PM

13.3 million?
I thought the MAGAs were saying there were 10, no 15, no 25 million that came in while Biden was President!
This just doesn't add up!

Fact: There were (estimated) 10.5 million when Trump took office.

Now there's only 13.3 million?

My oh my. Someone's not being honest! Who could that be?

#4 | Posted by YAV at 2024-10-30 09:22 PM

en.wikipedia.org

Just imagine the nation's mindset when pictures like this are hitting the news on a daily basis.

ALSO

www.vox.com

Polls: Trump's family separation policy is very unpopular " except among Republicans
One finds 66 percent of Americans opposed and only 27 percent in favor.

Americans were freaked out over 5000 or so children separated from their families.

Mass Deportation is family separations on steroids to the infinite power.

Americans aren't too bright. Magats want something but the reality is they won't want this.

AND

This says nothing of the destruction it will have on our economy.

#5 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-10-30 09:24 PM

If they are here illegally, unvetted, costing our kids their education, harming our healthcare, and costing every American for food and housing and our quality of life, they need sent back just as other countries would do to us.

#6 | Posted by Robson at 2024-10-30 09:29 PM

"Mass Deportation is family separations on steroids to the infinite power."

Well, not exactly:

On Sunday, Tom Homan, the one-time cop and former acting director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) under Trump, appeared on 60 Minutes to sell the plan as not potentially catastrophic. Homan, the "architect" of family separation who said he didn't "give a ----" about being sued over the infamous practice, has been defiantly positioning himself as the man to get the job done.

"Trump comes back in January, I'll be on his heels coming back, and I will run the biggest deportation force this country has ever seen," he said at the National Conservatism conference in Washington, DC, in July. "They ain't seen ---- yet. Wait until 2025."

Cecilia Vega asks: "Is there a way to carry out mass deportation without separating families?"

"Of course there is. Families can be deported together," says Tom Homan, head of ICE during Trump's family separation policy.

www.motherjones.com

#7 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-10-30 09:30 PM

"In a stunning announcement, after distancing himself from Project 2025, Donald Trump announced he will appoint Tom Homan (Project 2025's author) on day 1."

x.com

#8 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-10-30 09:32 PM

Well, not exactly:

On Sunday, Tom Homan, the one-time cop and former acting director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) under Trump, appeared on 60 Minutes to sell the plan as not potentially catastrophic. Homan, the "architect" of family separation who said he didn't "give a ----" about being sued over the infamous practice, has been defiantly positioning himself as the man to get the job done.
"Trump comes back in January, I'll be on his heels coming back, and I will run the biggest deportation force this country has ever seen," he said at the National Conservatism conference in Washington, DC, in July. "They ain't seen ---- yet. Wait until 2025."

Cecilia Vega asks: "Is there a way to carry out mass deportation without separating families?"

"Of course there is. Families can be deported together," says Tom Homan, head of ICE during Trump's family separation policy.

www.motherjones.com
#7 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday

Please explain how deporting a US citizen to another country will actually work?

#9 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-10-30 09:33 PM

"In a stunning announcement, after distancing himself from Project 2025, Donald Trump announced he will appoint Tom Homan (Project 2025's author) on day 1."

x.com

#8 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday a

Stunning? I don't think you know what that word means.

#10 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-10-30 09:34 PM

Please explain how deporting a US citizen to another country will actually work?
Posted by truthhurts

I don't know. It sounds like they will give people an option: If you want to stay together as a family, we will deport you together.

Stunning? I don't think you know what that word means.
#10 | Posted by truthhurts

It wasn't my word. It was the Harris campaign's, and I think it was meant as sarcasm.

#11 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-10-30 09:42 PM

I know, I was trying a joke!

#12 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-10-30 09:43 PM

Gal,

www.youtube.com

#13 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-30 09:45 PM

"As many as one in 20 Floridians, a million people, could be expelled from the country under a mass deportation plan that is a cornerstone of former president Donald Trump's campaign"

I am already voting for the guy, you can stop trying to sell me now.

#14 | Posted by deadman at 2024-10-30 09:52 PM

"13.3 million?
I thought the MAGAs were saying there were 10, no 15, no 25 million that came in while Biden was President!
This just doesn't add up!

There are probably 25M+ illegals when you count illegals, visa overstays, and the temp legal status people Biden has imported over the last 4 years. Of course, we would have an accurate count if the Democrats did not block it in the census.

"Fact: There were (estimated) 10.5 million when Trump took office."

Except this is not a fact.

thehill.com

Yep, that is 22M pre-Biden's open border policy as calculated by MIT and Yale.

"Now there's only 13.3 million?"

Nope we probably have closer to 30M now.

"My oh my. Someone's not being honest! Who could that be?
#4 | Posted by YAV "

As always, it is the Democrats and pro-open borders crowd lying.

#15 | Posted by deadman at 2024-10-30 09:56 PM

- pro-open borders crowd lying.

Pedio's total lack of self-awareness on display.

OK, nothing new there.

#16 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-30 10:03 PM

"OK, nothing new there.
#16 | Posted by Corky"

Cry more loser. Once Trump wins and we deport 25M+ illegals, the Dems won't win another national election for a generation.

#17 | Posted by deadman at 2024-10-30 10:04 PM

If Trump gets elected and tries to carry out his plan, lots of MAGA Latino voters are going to be saying, "Oh, I didn't think he meant me, my husband, my mother, my cousin." It will be a very cruel and life-changing revelation that comes too late for some of them:

Trump's deportation army

The former president's vow to deport 15 million people is the cruelest, most illiberal, most openly authoritarian campaign promise in modern U.S. history. Oh, and it would also destroy the economy.

radleybalko.substack.com

#18 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-10-30 10:07 PM

#7

One might have thought you'd have learned your lesson about predicting elections from the Minor Drip you got rather than a Red Wave, barely holding serve.

The truly hilarious part is that you have just enough money to think you are something special, not truly wealthy, yet someone who is also stupid enough to support a billionaires tax cut bigger than your measly tax cut.

Dumb Trumpers are a dime a dozen, and over-priced at that.

#19 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-30 10:10 PM

#17, not 7

#20 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-30 10:11 PM


I know, I was trying a joke!
#12 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

Go easy, Gal, Corky and Hans, are wound pretty tight these days.

A comedian tells a joke they are outraged. President disparages half the country , its the apostrophe.

#21 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-10-30 11:19 PM

As always, it is the Democrats and pro-open borders crowd lying.
#15 | POSTED BY DEADMAN

What are we lying about?

Biden isn't implementing Open borders, you need vetting. No OpenBorders person believes in no vetting until EVERY border is open.

#22 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-10-30 11:21 PM

#18 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

Idk Gal, if phased in over time the economy wouldn't feel it.

BUT doing it immediately would be catastrophic.

#23 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-10-30 11:22 PM

He is not going to do it.

He will deport some with cameras rolling to give his garbage some red meat.

He is not going to destroy the FL housing market with a million vacancies.

He is not going to destroy the FL farming and construction industries by deporting 20% of their workforce.

He is blowing smoke up yer asses and you fall for it every time.

Democrats and pro-open borders crowd lying.
#15 | POSTED BY DEADMAN

What are we lying about?

#22 | Posted by oneironaut

You're either lying about being a democrat or you forgot to log out of your troll account before posting.

#24 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-10-31 08:15 AM

Once Trump wins and we deport 25M+ illegals, the Dems won't win another national election for a generation.

The stupid is strong in deadbrain.

#25 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-10-31 08:16 AM

Gotta love the self-own by Deadman - and THANKS!

The researchers emphasized the new number does not imply a growth in illegal immigration but a longstanding miscount of existing undocumented immigrants.

"We wouldn't want people to walk away from this research thinking that suddenly there's a large influx happening now," said Feinstein. "It's really something that happened in the past and maybe was not properly counted or documented."

The researchers also noted if the undocumented population is twice as high as previous estimates, that means the incidence of criminality among undocumented immigrants is half as high as previously reported. (which, BTW was 2-3 times lower already than the criminality of US Citizens IIRC from the Texas analysis.)

Again: "You have the same number of crimes but now spread over twice as many people as was believed before, which right away means that the crime rate among undocumented immigrants is essentially half whatever was previously believed," said Kaplan.

And yet the answer to all our problems (if you're a Republican) is to deport all of them. Brilliant!

#26 | Posted by YAV at 2024-10-31 08:31 AM

Please explain how deporting a US citizen to another country will actually work?

#9 | Posted by truthhurts

You don't seem to grasp how willing they are to completely break the system.

Deport citizens? Pffftttttt good luck fixing that if you simply aren't given the opportunity to do so.

#27 | Posted by jpw at 2024-10-31 09:09 AM

Cry more loser.

Duuhhhhhh CrY mOrEZZ!!

Idiot.

#28 | Posted by jpw at 2024-10-31 09:10 AM

Once you are out of the US without your documentation you better plan on YEARS of fighting to get back in.

#29 | Posted by YAV at 2024-10-31 09:11 AM

Once you are out of the US without your documentation you better plan on YEARS of fighting to get back in.
#29 | Posted by YAV

If you happen to be a teenaged girl then just buddy up to one of Trump's pals and they'll let you back in.

#30 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2024-10-31 06:43 PM

#30 - True. Disgusting human garbage that he is. Attacking women, trafficking his future wives in while he's having affairs. Peeping at teenage girls at the beauty pageants, and grabbing others by their p***ys - or just pinning them to the wall and digitally raping them. Like he said today - he's "going to protect women, whether they like it or not!"

#31 | Posted by YAV at 2024-10-31 10:27 PM

Mass deportationsn detention camps, seperating families under a President of German lineage? So let's substitute Juden for illegal immigrants? What do you have?

#32 | Posted by danni at 2024-11-01 01:38 AM

Oh, I fordot to mention J.D, Goebels remark that America is for Americans.

#33 | Posted by danni at 2024-11-01 01:39 AM

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