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'This Is My Chernobyl:' Texas Ranchers Watch Cows Die Due to PFAs

Tony and Karen Coleman have watched 39 of their animals die, Now joining other Texas farmers suing the EPA, They believe forever chemicals in fertilizer sludge contaminated their land

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... "It's like a nightmare you can't wake up from," said Tony Coleman. "You go home at night and you don't really sleep well, because you know the next day is coming, and you know what it's going to bring. I don't think there's enough words. It's like ripping your heart out."

T-K Ranch is a family operation, inherited from Karen Coleman's father in Johnson County, Texas. She says these cows are his legacy. ...


#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-12-08 03:49 PM

Related...

Forever chemicals tainting food supply, destroying American farmers
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... It's 4 a.m. in Maine, and just like his father and grandfather before him on this land, dairy farmer Fred Stone makes the frigid journey through the snow to milk the cows.

"It was always known as cows first, people second, and that's the way it's always been," Stone told NewsNation's Natasha Zouves. "I wish that snow wasn't cold, and I wish rain wasn't wet, and I wish I still didn't love my cows. But the more people I meet, the more I love my cows."

Stone has chosen each of their names and knows them by heart. In the warm barn, he greets Moon Beam, Blue and Storm Chaser.

"There's no phoniness about the, you know exactly where you stand, and they're all different," said Stone. "Their personalities are all completely different."

His whole life he says his care for his cows has been rewarded with what he calls "liquid gold." His family has owned this farm since 1914, and for more than a century, their high-quality milk and cream have gone to market.

Now, he milks them only to pour every drop down the drain.

"You either laugh or cry, and I ran out of tears a long time ago," said Stone.

Fred Stone's milk is contaminated, heavily tainted with PFAS, or "forever chemicals," linked with cancer and other serious health issues.

"This has broken our hearts and crushed our spirit, and I don't know if we'll ever get that back," said Fred's wife, Laura Stone.

In 2016, an innocuous, routine water test on their property revealed high levels of PFAS " human-made chemicals the Stones had never heard of before. ...


#2 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-12-08 03:50 PM

lol. Magat scum deserve nothing more
Vote for getting rid of the epa
Your livelihood dies from environmental factors
Sounds like karma to me

#3 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-12-08 03:51 PM

Welcome to deregulation.

Expect to see more in the future.

#4 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-12-08 03:56 PM

@#4 ... Welcome to deregulation ...

In my view, it is more of a ~welcome to the return of deregulation.~

I remember back when I was a kid. In the summer I went outside, and my eyes would burn from the air pollution.

We used to talk about the "ring around the horizon," which was a grayish-orange coloring of the air as you looked towards the horizon.

Back in the late-70's i lived on a dead-end street, so little traffic. But when a car drove past my house, if I was outside, in a few minutes I could smell the exhaust from that car. That is something I do not experience anymore (or for the past 20, 30 years or so).


#5 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-12-08 07:23 PM

IRONY

Farmers vote against regulation and then sue the EPA to get more regulation.

#6 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-12-09 10:39 AM

This is what you get when you let the market decide.

The "market" decided these chemicals are okay.

The "market" decided it's okay to poison your herd and you.

A vote for GOP is a vote to poison yourself.

All they care about is money. They don't care about you at all.

#7 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-12-09 12:32 PM

This is what you get when you let the market decide.

The "market" decided these chemicals are okay.

The "market" decided it's okay to poison your herd and you.

A vote for GOP is a vote to poison yourself.

All they care about is money. They don't care about you at all.

#7 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-12-09 12:32 PM | Reply | Flag

Hair on fire much? The market didn't "decide". PFAs were developed during WWII and the patent was sold to 3M to develop into a whole lot of things. I'd be willing to bet you have no idea how many things you use/consume contain this very stuff.

#8 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-12-09 02:43 PM

I'd be willing to bet you have no idea how many things you use/consume contain this very stuff.

#8 | Posted by lfthndthrds

You should add some to your morning coffee then

#9 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-12-09 05:23 PM

-PFAS, or "forever chemicals," linked with cancer and other serious health issues.

And to make matters worse, those chemicals are being specifically excluded on most standard commercial general liability policies.

#10 | Posted by eberly at 2024-12-09 05:28 PM

It's not enough for the oil industry to kill and destroy by roasting the climate. They also want to do it be poisoning us directly.

And republicans defend them simply because democrats don't like that.

#11 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-12-09 06:17 PM

"Drill Baby Drill"
A**tbolish EPA? These people are "Bat S**t Crazy!
MAGA=MAPA (Make America Polluted Again)

#12 | Posted by danni at 2024-12-09 06:59 PM

"And republicans defend them simply because democrats don't like that."

Yep.

#13 | Posted by Angrydad at 2024-12-09 07:15 PM

#10 | Posted by eberly

Blind pig finds acorn.

#14 | Posted by Angrydad at 2024-12-09 07:23 PM

"Hair on fire much? The market didn't "decide". PFAs were developed during WWII and the patent was sold to 3M to develop into a whole lot of things. "

So in a whole bunch of words you basically said the market decided.

Isn't that what "patent" and "sold" kind of say?

Negative externalities don't exist in the Republican mindset, although that's econ 101 Adam Smith if you had bothered to go to college and get an education. Also Adam Smith is sort of a standard bearer of capitalism. I think we had a lecture about the tragedy of the commons even.

#15 | Posted by dibblda at 2024-12-09 10:28 PM

"Beef..It what's for dinner."

#16 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2024-12-10 02:09 AM

I'd be willing to bet you have no idea how many things you use/consume contain this very stuff.

If you breath the air, you're breathing them in.

#17 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-12-10 08:55 AM

My country has become terminally toxic I'm afraid.
I no longer see a path to recovery. Too many corrupt
politicians, stupid no nothing voters that just scream
and yell and know nothing of science or the issues.

My retirement land is about 15 minutes from Canada.
May be spending most of my time on the other side
of the boundary.

#18 | Posted by earthmuse at 2024-12-10 11:44 AM

"May be spending most of my time on the other side
of the boundary."

With Trump's repeated 51st state talk, Canada may be stationing armed troops on their side to prevent a US invasion.

#19 | Posted by dibblda at 2024-12-10 12:18 PM

So in a whole bunch of words you basically said the market decided.

Isn't that what "patent" and "sold" kind of say?

#15 | Posted by dibblda at 2024-12-09 10:28 PM | Reply | Flag:

Except that the government decided. That's who sold the patent to private industry. So no, the market didn't decide, they just made use of something the government decided to sell them.

#20 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-12-10 12:27 PM

If you breath the air, you're breathing them in.

#17 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-12-10 08:55 AM | Reply | Flag

Not going to argue that. But blaming the market for something the government did isn't being honest.

#21 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-12-10 12:29 PM

At least the people of Chernobyl got some cool mutant super dogs out of the deal.

#22 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-12-10 01:02 PM

The invisible hand of free markets works in mysterious ways...

(or perhaps it's that belief in free market nonsense is incongruous with reality)

#23 | Posted by YAV at 2024-12-10 02:35 PM

The goverment made the free market do things to make money!

#24 | Posted by YAV at 2024-12-10 02:35 PM

" or perhaps it's that belief in free market nonsense is incongruous with reality)

#23 | POSTED BY YAV AT 2024-12-10 02:35 PM | FLAG: "

It's a hell of a lot better than Socialism or Communism.

#25 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-12-10 02:38 PM

The Happiest Countrys in the World year after year are the same ones... social democracies who's economies are capitalist, just not runaway crony capitalism where corporations and billionaires own the People's Representatives.

#26 | Posted by Corky at 2024-12-10 03:00 PM

Oh NOOOOO! Someone said "SOCIALISM!"

As if that's the only other option, right Mr. False Choice?

#27 | Posted by YAV at 2024-12-10 03:20 PM

It's a hell of a lot better than Socialism or Communism.

#25 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Are we listing things capitalism is better than?

It's also much better than a sharp stick in the eye!

It's also better than being tossed into a fire!

Also better than being cooked and eaten!

It's even better than the vacuum of space!

#28 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-12-10 03:24 PM

Capitalism is by far the best economy the world has ever seen.

It's not perfect but nothing is perfect.

#29 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-12-10 03:25 PM

And the crony capitalism we have is one of the worst systems for its citizens... who have worse health care by far than other major economies.

#30 | Posted by Corky at 2024-12-10 03:29 PM

who have worse health care by far than other major economies.

#30 | Posted by Corky at 2024-12-10 03:29 PM | Reply | Flag:

Know how to make health care really schitty? make it cheap.

#31 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-12-10 05:26 PM

"That's who sold the patent to private industry. So no, the market didn't decide, they just made use of something the government decided to sell them."

So the free market decided to buy something that was for sale.

Again, a whole bunch of words for saying the market decided.

I'm enjoying your comedy routine immensely. Based on the funny flags you are getting it is a hit.

#32 | Posted by dibblda at 2024-12-10 10:09 PM

#32 | Posted by dibblda at 2024-12-10 10:09 PM | Reply | Flag:

Just another emotionally charged, childish brat.

Hey, remember back when asbestos was a really great product. It was used in just about everything to make our lives safer and easier. It revolutionized everything from buildings and the automotive industry to shipbuilding and textiles.

Asbestos killed my father in Jan 2016 but I'm not here to blame the market. Just like I'm not here to blame the market for something like PFAs that had potential to make our lives easier. Sometimes we just don't know the consequences of developing something that seems so promising, only to realize later the consequences were not what we imagined.

#33 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-12-11 08:50 AM

blaming the market for something the government did isn't being honest.

I had no idea 3M and DuPont are the government.

#34 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-12-11 08:57 AM

IRONY

Farmers vote against regulation and then sue the EPA to get more regulation.

Posted by Sycophant at 2024-12-09 10:39 AM | Reply

It's SOP for the GOP. It only matters when it AFFECTS THEM PERSONALLY.

#35 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-12-11 08:59 AM

Asbestos killed my father in Jan 2016 but I'm not here to blame the market. Just like I'm not here to blame the market for something like PFAs that had potential to make our lives easier. Sometimes we just don't know the consequences of developing something that seems so promising, only to realize later the consequences were not what we imagined.

#33 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Once something is found to be toxic then there is someone to blame if they continue to use it or try to hide that it's toxic.

#36 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-12-11 01:06 PM

Know how to make health care really schitty? make it cheap.

#31 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Better than really ------ and expensive.

#37 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-12-11 01:07 PM

"Capitalism is by far the best economy the world has ever seen."

Regulated capitalism.

Unregulated capitalism always leads to ----------------.

#38 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-12-11 01:11 PM

Re 38

That wasn't a bad word your AI censored and now you will never know what unregulated capitalism leads to ... unless you go here: ----------------

#39 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-12-11 01:50 PM

Capitalism is by far the best economy the world has ever seen.

It's not perfect but nothing is perfect.

#29 | Posted by BellRinger

Best for who?

And any attempt to fix it for anyone not rich is called Socialism.

Yes, Jeff, we get it.

#40 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-12-11 02:36 PM

Farm and Ranching in the US is heavily subsidized and hardly capitalism.

#41 | Posted by horstngraben at 2024-12-11 02:43 PM

" And any attempt to fix it for anyone not rich is called Socialism.

Yes, Jeff, we get it.

#40 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT AT 2024-12-11 02:36 PM | REPLY"

Show me any time government seizing control of the means of production hasn't resulted in abject failure and human misery.

Lefties have almost zero grasp of history.

#42 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-12-11 02:44 PM

"Show me any time government seizing control of the means of production hasn't resulted in abject failure and human misery."

Nicely done!

You just proved his point ...

"any attempt to fix it for anyone not rich is called Socialism."

#43 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-12-11 02:53 PM

Show me any time government seizing control of the means of production hasn't resulted in abject failure and human misery.

Lefties have almost zero grasp of history.

Posted by BellRinger at 2024-12-11 02:44 PM | Reply

Like Capitalism isn't rife with the same problems. The rich get rich and the poor get poorer. Not to mention how many are killed just to keep capitalism going. How many did we kill in Iraq just so capitalists could make their monies in the war plus monies on controlling the oil supply of their country. You act as though Capitalism is utopia but it's not. It's just what we are used to that's all.

#44 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-12-11 02:54 PM

-Show me any time government seizing control of the means of production hasn't resulted in abject failure and human misery.

How extreme are you talking? What's an example of that?

#45 | Posted by eberly at 2024-12-11 03:12 PM

" You act as though Capitalism is utopia but it's not. It's just what we are used to that's all.

#44 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR AT 2024-12-11 02:54 PM | REPLY"

I've never said it's Utopia. Not even close. What I've said is if we look at human history the overall quality (and longevity) of life has improved exponentially as a result.

#46 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-12-11 03:23 PM

I honestly can't think of any examples of government seizing control over the means of production of any industry, directly.

I know farmers have a weird relationship with the government. But I'd say Monsanto has more to do with that than the "government".

Jeff might be thinking of other countries, like Venezuela. But he's also ignoring efforts by America to make sure countries that peruse socialism fail.

#47 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-12-11 03:23 PM

Capitalism only works when it's tethered by socialism.

80 year old billionaires fighting tooth and nail for another tax cut for themselves is nothing but greed and rampant capitalism.

Why do Musk and Besos and Zimmerman and the Waltons and trumps need another tax cut?

Greed.

It use to be one of the seven deadly sins.

Now it's part of the republican platform.

#48 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-12-11 03:27 PM

-I honestly can't think of any examples of government seizing control over the means of production of any industry, directly.

the closest I can come to it is perhaps when the govt bailed out GM. Not saying that's "seizing control over the means of production" but someone can argue that if they wish.

I agree capitalism works best when regulated. We'll always argue over how much and every change is defined as either "unregulated laissez-faire fascism" or "socialism/communism".

It's a boring argument meant for the dumbest among us to deliberately mischaracterize what they don't understand.

-Why do Musk and Besos and Zimmerman and the Waltons and trumps need another tax cut?

they want one. It's about want....not need

#49 | Posted by eberly at 2024-12-11 03:34 PM

They bought the presidency.

(Well. Musk did.)

They're gonna get whatever they want.

#50 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-12-11 03:39 PM

"What I've said is if we look at human history the overall quality (and longevity) of life has improved exponentially as a result."

Humans have been on earth for 200,000.

Our overall quality of human life has improved "exponentially" several times long before the advent of Capitalism, Communism or Socialism.

It only depended on how wealthy and magnanimous the King Queen Emperor Pharaoh Caesar or Khan, etc. was.

Let's hope our new Emperor and King of the Dotards is as magnanimous as some of them were.

A Jubilee would be nice.

#51 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-12-11 03:42 PM

Show me any time government seizing control of the means of production

#42 | Posted by BellRinger

Isn't THIS exactly what the right is always advocating for as they're screeching that the US should be "energy independent"? The only way the US could ever achieve said "energy independence" would be for government to seize all domestic means of energy production and distribution (eliminate the free market).

Why is the right constantly accusing the left of doing exactly what the right would like to do?

And over what do you think the left would like to implement government control? All of the things I can think of would and do run much better without a private sector middle-man.

#52 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2024-12-11 03:43 PM

" Isn't THIS exactly what the right is always advocating for as they're screeching that the US should be "energy independent"? "

Not at all. What is being advocated is for the government to get out of the way.

#53 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-12-11 03:55 PM

" And over what do you think the left would like to implement government control? All of the things I can think of would and do run much better without a private sector middle-man.
#52 | POSTED BY WHATSLEFT AT 2024-12-11 03:43 PM | FLAG: "

Hugo Chavez thought that would deliver economic success for Venezuela. It was and remains an unmitigated disaster.

#54 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-12-11 03:56 PM

Thanks for proving my point.

#55 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-12-11 04:11 PM

Not at all. What is being advocated is for the government to get out of the way.

#53 | Posted by BellRinger a

So although capitalism needs regulation to avoid destroying itself, you want less regulation.
Genius.

#56 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-12-11 04:26 PM

What is being advocated is for the government to get out of the way.

#53 | Posted by BellRinger

With regard to the fossil fuel industry, except for mainly environmental regulations, the government isn't in the way. And those regulations are there because that industry has a proven track record of crapping all over the environment.

But I think you're advocating for something different...

How is government "getting out of the way" going to compel the industry to keep their product in America, as so many conservatives think they should? The fossil fuel industry is ALWAYS going to sell it's products to whomever will pay the most. Anywhere in the world.

#57 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2024-12-11 04:58 PM

#57. I support environmental regulations.

When I think of energy independence it means our country is a net exporter of energy. The fossil fuel industry is globally interdependent. That means imports and exports will happen. Global trade is a good thing IMO.

#58 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-12-11 05:00 PM

Hugo Chavez thought that would deliver economic success for Venezuela. It was and remains an unmitigated disaster.

#54 | Posted by BellRinger

I've never seen broad consensus from the left in the US, for this type of takeover of the industry. NEVER. Perhaps you have some proof that didn't come from your backside.

#59 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2024-12-11 05:01 PM

Global trade is a good thing IMO.

#58 | Posted by BellRinger

Many of your peers, including Agent Orange, disagree with you.

#60 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2024-12-11 05:02 PM

" I've never seen broad consensus from the left in the US, for this type of takeover of the industry"

My recollection is was broadly cheered by the left at the time.

#61 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-12-11 05:04 PM

What is being advocated is for the government to get out of the way.

#53 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

So you are advocating that the federal government end its socialistic subsidies to the oil industries?

According to a study released in 2018, the US military spends $81 billion a year defending global oil supplies. This translates to a subsidy of about $30 a barrel or $0.70 per gallon of oil for US consumers, who pay for this subsidy through their taxes.

#62 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-12-11 05:08 PM

So you are advocating that the federal government end its socialistic subsidies to the oil industries?

This is where he says the oil industry pays more in taxes than it gets in subsidies. As if that means anything, if it's even true.

#63 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-12-11 05:11 PM

This is where he says the oil industry pays more in taxes than it gets in subsidies. As if that means anything, if it's even true.

#63 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-12-11 05:11 PM | Reply | Flag:

Are you scared to look it up? Are you willing to look up subsidies/taxes for another industry? Say medical/pharma?

#64 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-12-11 05:31 PM

Are you scared to look it up?

I don't think it's relevant.

#65 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-12-11 05:38 PM

My recollection is was broadly cheered by the left at the time.

#61 | Posted by BellRinger

Your recollection is given to you by people who said climate change is a hoax and obama wasn't a real citizen.

#66 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-12-11 05:41 PM

My recollection is was broadly cheered by the left at the time.

#61 | Posted by BellRinger

Your recollection is given to you by people who said climate change is a hoax and obama wasn't a real citizen.

#66 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

"Broadly cheered by the left" means one or two people were for it.

Remember when Trumpy saw "thousands and thousands" of people cheering in Jersey City after 9/11 (Muslims)?

Neither do I. But maga maroons sure do!

#67 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-12-11 06:23 PM

-Show me any time government seizing control of the means of production hasn't resulted in abject failure and human misery.
Australia and their railroads comes to mind as a great example.
Our power here in my town is city managed and we have extremely low rates as a result.
Environmental pollution is a huge win for Government. Thank goodness for the Clean Air Act. Unregulated "free enterprise" kills people, just like this story illustrates. It's particularly brutal to minority populations. Alabama and Louisiana are rife with examples.
Tobacco is a huge win, free enterprise was killing people left and right.
Free enterprise and health insurance was rapidly reaching a massive fail. It took government to step in - though the solution is shht today, it's better than what we'd have without the ACA.
Scientific advancement - the transistor, ICs, so much came from NASA. There was no reason for private enterprise to go to the moon or do any of the things we were doing until we, through our government, took that risk and opened up the possibilities.
I'd also put in women's sports.

I for one am extremely grateful for the FDA, the USDA, the CDC, the EPA, and other organizations that help keep us safe.

But here we are with what's, essentially, toxic dumpsites. Why? Because of the "regulation is evil" and "free markets work" nonsense.

Reagan was a POS bashing government and unfortunately too many people still buy into his bullshht. The idea of free markets working relies on perfect people. Libertarianism has always, massively, epically failed.

The best economies in the world are hybrid economies. Our Government should protect us and work for us, not for those of us that have tons of money and can buy politicians and votes.

But don't worry. Trump's here to cut even more red tape and bureaucracy. Maybe Grover Norquist will finally get his wish.

#68 | Posted by YAV at 2024-12-11 06:26 PM

" Libertarianism has always, massively, epically failed"

I disagree. This country was a libertarian country from inception to the New Deal. I think an argument can be made that on balanc3 this was a very successful country during that time period. Government does, and always has provided services. Mail being a prime example. What it fails at is controlling the means of PRODUCTION.

#69 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-12-11 10:53 PM

"The question libertarians just can't answer

If your approach is so great, why hasn't any country anywhere in the world ever tried it?"

www.salon.com

history.cornell.edu

#70 | Posted by Corky at 2024-12-11 11:02 PM

I disagree. This country was a libertarian country from inception to the New Deal.

That is flat out not true. That's an invention from a fantasy of a time that never existed.

Michael Lind asked a question that no Libertarian has answered. The closest was a massive "not fair!" from the Competitive Enterprise Institute. Boil it all down and what it says is Libertarian rule can't happen without perfect humans, and we ain't got those. Of course they hide behind public choice theory to justify their rationalization.

Every time Libertarianism starts to take hold, the people revolt. For a fun read, check out https://news.cornell.edu/stories/2022/06/think-twice-founding-free-market-utopia

#71 | Posted by YAV at 2024-12-12 04:15 PM

Let me try that again to make the link easier to access: Think twice before founding that free-market utopia

#72 | Posted by YAV at 2024-12-12 04:16 PM

Brilliant, Corky! I should have hit refresh long before I posted what I did!

#73 | Posted by YAV at 2024-12-12 04:17 PM

(That's kind of stunning to me, actually)

#74 | Posted by YAV at 2024-12-12 04:18 PM

"What is being advocated is for the government to get out of the way."

...of the folks dead-set on poisoning the natural resources.

At least be honest about what you're defending.

You're the MORE TOXIC SLUDGE party.

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