Tuesday, December 17, 2024

Bidenomics Was Wildly Successful

The president's domestic record wasn't just extraordinary. It might put Democrats back in power in four years.

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"The strong economy and tight labor markets that Biden has overseen have dealt workers their best hand in decades." From @brycecovert.bsky.social: newrepublic.com/article/1892 ...

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-- The New Republic (@newrepublic.com) December 17, 2024 at 8:39 AM

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"By nearly every metric, Bidenomics was a roaring success.

It would be a mistake to ignore or forget the lessons that can be gleaned from the administration's robust economic policy. Their present discontent notwithstanding, Americans will undoubtedly miss this economy when it's gone.

The seeds of Bidenomics were planted in 2009 when Jared Bernstein, the current chair of the White House Council of Economic Advisers, or CEA, was hired as the chief economist to then-Vice President Biden. "

Our first conversation was about this, and it never left me," Bernstein recalled. Biden's economic worldview, as he put it that day, was: "If you're helping to bake the pie, you ought to get a fair slice."

That's the heart of Bidenomics, Bernstein said. "The fact is that almost every program and policy that we have promoted can find a connection to that assertion.""

much more at the link WARNING TO TRUMPERS: there are FACTS in the article... try not to cry.

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2024-12-17 05:21 PM

Epstein's bankruptcy-prone wingman flat out sucks.

finance.yahoo.com

#2 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-12-17 06:17 PM

Just more gaslighting of the American people. They know what they felt, being told otherwise just loses credibility.

Its sad, I wish us Democrats could just accept the loss and move forward.

Instead AOC lost her race to become ranking member of the House Oversight Committee to a 770+ yo.

The party is set on losing more and more.

#3 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-12-17 06:22 PM

Historical facts are gaslighting in 1NutWorld?

So, so.... unsurprising.

#4 | Posted by Corky at 2024-12-17 07:21 PM

770+ yo

Fkkking immortals.

#5 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-12-17 07:43 PM

...facts are gaslighting in 1NutWorld?
#4 | Posted by Corky

That is the real world today. As he said, it's about what people feel, the facts don't matter.

#6 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2024-12-17 07:52 PM

False of course

#7 | Posted by THEBULL at 2024-12-17 09:40 PM

#7

Not an argument, a grunt. Maybe a belch/fart.

#8 | Posted by Corky at 2024-12-17 09:59 PM

When I first saw the headline I thought it was satire.

#9 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-12-17 10:38 PM

WALL STREET IS NOT THE ECONOMY.

This "We did it!" crap is part of why Harris lost. Not the biggest part, that was supporting Israel's genocide. But it matters.

If the message on the economy had been "We're making progress to fix the problems" then it would have been believable. But income inequality is as much of a problem now as ever. Homelessness is as much of a problem now as ever. People not being able to afford homes because they're being systematically bought by private equity and left empty is a huge ---- problem.

The minimum wage is still $7.25, where it's been for 15 years. It should be $25 nationally, and significantly higher in some cities, and NO EXCEPTIONS, the "waitress wage" needs to end. There should be ZERO homeless people. There should be ZERO student debt. There should be ZERO medical debt. And full employment is NOT 4%, it's 0%, if ANYONE looking for a job is not able to find a job we don't have full employment.

Do I expect Biden to have accomplished all of that? NO. Obviously he couldn't. But I absolutely DO expect that without having accomplished it, the messaging should have been "We're making progress, and we'll keep working on it" not "We did it" when housing and food costs are taking more of our income than they were eight years ago, and income inequality keeps getting worse.

#10 | Posted by DarkVader at 2024-12-18 08:23 AM

False of course

#7 | Posted by THEBULL

Yes yes. We know. Your room temp IQ perception of the world is what the world is. Nothing else matters.

#11 | Posted by jpw at 2024-12-18 08:55 AM

When I first saw the headline I thought it was satire.

#9 | Posted by BellRinger

LOL

Still haven't found that self-awareness, eh?

#12 | Posted by jpw at 2024-12-18 08:57 AM

When I first saw the headline I thought it was satire.
#9 | Posted by BellRinger

And then after you read the article and saw the facts you changed your mind, right?
Didn't think so.

#13 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2024-12-18 09:00 AM

This is just more evidence Americans don't understand economics.

What was reinforced with the American people? What message did most voters accept?

High inflation and corporate profits.

Across the board with all voters.

Some think Trump is a solution for that and Biden is to blame.

Some think it's not Biden's fault and the democratic party is still the best option moving forward.

But "widly successful" is NOT the message that was reinforced and accepted by the American people.

High inflation and corporate profits.

it was written here every single day.....inflation is high...and what was the biggest factor? corporate profits.

And it's as if some here believe corporations only want to profit when a republican is in the white house.

www.factcheck.org

#14 | Posted by eberly at 2024-12-18 09:19 AM

This is just more evidence Americans don't understand economics.

and what was the biggest factor? corporate profits.

#14 | Posted by eberly at 2024-12-18 09:19 AM | Reply | Flag:

No small irony in that post. MV=PQ right?

M2 ~15% 2017-2021
M2 ~40% Jan 20 - Dec 21
M2 ~27% year over year through 2020-2022.

It's the highest rate of monetary supply growth ever recorded and is the single biggest factor in the extreme inflation voters experienced.

#15 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-12-18 10:46 AM

Is this from "The Onion"?

#16 | Posted by visitor_ at 2024-12-18 12:26 PM

Bidenomics was, and is, great.

Since Donald is back in power, I will never see that much money again.

Going to invest now in frozen hamburger and toilet paper.

#17 | Posted by Zed at 2024-12-18 02:58 PM

DOW down more days in a row since 1974.

Good job MAGAT scum.

#18 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-12-19 12:41 AM

DOW down more days in a row since 1974.

Not only that, but the US National debt hit an all time record high today.

#19 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-12-19 12:47 AM

CHIPS and Science Act
en.wikipedia.org

... The CHIPS and Science Act is a U.S. federal statute enacted by the 117th United States Congress and signed into law by President Joe Biden on August 9, 2022. The act authorizes roughly $280 billion in new funding to boost domestic research and manufacturing of semiconductors in the United States, for which it appropriates $52.7 billion.[1][2][3] ...

Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act
en.wikipedia.org

... The Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act (IIJA), also known as the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law (BIL), (H.R. 3684) is a United States federal statute enacted by the 117th United States Congress and signed into law by President Joe Biden on November 15, 2021. It was introduced in the House as the INVEST in America Act and nicknamed the Bipartisan Infrastructure Bill. ...


#20 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-12-19 01:03 AM

@#20

One thing that is evident from the bills cited in #20 ..

Pres Biden worked to pass bills that would benefit the Country in the long term, even if that meant he might not get credit for the results of those bills that were passed because those benefits would not become visible for years.

Pres Biden seemed to be interested in the Country's future.


#21 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-12-19 01:07 AM

Since Donald is back in power, I will never see that much money again.

Going to invest now in frozen hamburger and toilet paper.

#17 | Posted by Zed at 2024-12-18 02:58 PM | Reply | Flag:
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Maybe your welfare program will be spared. Keep your head up.

#22 | Posted by fishpaw at 2024-12-19 01:26 PM

One thing that is evident from the bills cited in #20 ..

Pres Biden worked to pass bills that would benefit the Country in the long term, even if that meant he might not get credit for the results of those bills that were passed because those benefits would not become visible for years.

Pres Biden seemed to be interested in the Country's future.

#21 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-12-19 01:07 AM | Reply | Flag:
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Sure, huge investment in diversity training and DEI benefits less than 1% of the country.

#23 | Posted by fishpaw at 2024-12-19 01:27 PM

Maybe your welfare program will be spared.

#22 | POSTED BY FISHPAW

I'm the one paying for yours. And your kids.

#24 | Posted by Zed at 2024-12-19 01:32 PM

huge investment in diversity training and DEI benefits less than 1% of the country.

#23 | POSTED BY FISHPAW

DEI benefits companies and employees financially and in many many other ways.

A 2020 study by McKinsey & Company found that companies in the top quartile for racial and ethnic diversity are 35% more likely to have financial returns above their respective national industry medians.

The study also found that companies in the top quartile for gender diversity are 21% more likely to have financial returns above their respective national industry medians.

#25 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-12-19 01:43 PM

Well, I certainly have prospered under Bidenomics. I am financially much better off than I was four years ago. Thanks Joe.

#26 | Posted by moder8 at 2024-12-19 01:52 PM

#25 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-12-19 01:43 PM | Reply | Flag:

They are widely cited. However, their hypothesis did not survive peer review. Distinguished professors could not replicate their results and found no significant correlation.

People like the work because it feeds confirmation biases of how things should be, but it does not survive the scientific method and fails peer review.

#27 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-12-19 02:48 PM

"Distinguished professors could not replicate their results and found no significant correlation."

Name one.

The discussion about financial gains or costs is just a huge distraction anyway.

DEI is a value in and of itself, not meant to be a means to make more money- tho it can. The way we treat each other and jointly achieve results is what matters here.

You are equating political backlash and criticism with peer review.

DEI has not been "discredited ".

Despite the criticism, many organizations still believe in the importance of promoting diversity, equity, and inclusion.

The criticism just highlights the need to refine DEI strategies and develop more effective implementation methods.

The debate in those companies is usually around how best to achieve the goals of diversity, not the (common) sense of whether it works or whether diversity is valuable.

Done correctly DEI Benefits can include:
Increased employee engagement
Improved innovation
Increased market share
Reduced turnover
Better talent acquisition
More creativity in teams
Better decision-making in teams

#28 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-12-19 03:54 PM

As he said, it's about what people feel, the facts don't matter.

#6 | Posted by TFDNihilist

It's funny that they only felt it until Nov 6th.

#29 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2024-12-19 05:23 PM

Name one.

The discussion about financial gains or costs is just a huge distraction anyway.

#28 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-12-19 03:54 PM | Reply

This is how I know you're not serious and it's just confirmation bias.

The study you are championing isn't about the moral value of DEI. It's a study to correlate that DEI = increased profits and better margins.

The Green & Hand study debunked it.

#30 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-12-19 06:38 PM

Corporate America didn't adopt it because of some kind of morale enlightenment lol. That's the most farcical notion posted on this site in awhile.

They thought they were going to make more money, based on science.

#31 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-12-19 06:40 PM

Done correctly DEI Benefits can include:
Increased employee engagement
Improved innovation
Increased market share
Reduced turnover
Better talent acquisition
More creativity in teams
Better decision-making in teams

#28 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-12-19 03:54 PM | Reply | Flag

BS

Done correctly, the people given Affirmative Action jobs or promotions/jobs would have fared better had they been given training/educations to better carry out those jobs. We should have never shifted to Affirmative Action. What an insult. We should have helped those people attain the education to attain those jobs prior to putting them in those positions. Te left will never agree because they are the most racist.

#32 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-12-19 07:31 PM

Republicans fought Biden on every issue.

He literally wanted to provide States with money to rebuild their roads and bridges and highways and Republican politicians were like, "---- no!"

#33 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-12-19 07:39 PM

Done correctly, the people given Affirmative Action jobs

Affirmative Action? How 1980s of you.

They're DEI hires now.

We should have never shifted to Affirmative Action. What an insult.

What an insult(!), that a qualified person, not of European descent, should be given enrollment at a predominantly White university, or be given a job at a company where everyone is white! (While we're at it, less women would be better too.)

We should have helped those people attain the education to attain those jobs prior to putting them in those positions.

You stupid idiot. They are qualified. For the schools and the jobs. They're just not white enough.

Te left will never agree because they are the most racist.
#32 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTURDS

Obviously ...

#34 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-12-19 07:53 PM

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