Thursday, February 06, 2025

How Dismantling the Department of Ed Would Harm Students

Educators and parents will not stand for the destruction of our country's commitment to equal educational opportunities for all students.

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95% of students with disabilities learn in public schools, and the Department of Education ensures they get the support they need and deserve. Learn more on how eliminating the department would deepen inequalities and harm students nationwide: https://bit.ly/3Ct46Nz

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-- National Education Association (@neatoday.bsky.social) February 6, 2025 at 8:36 AM

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www.pewresearch.org

Highly educated adults " particularly those who have attended graduate school " are far more likely than those with less education to take predominantly liberal positions across a range of political values. And these differences have increased over the past two decades.

#1 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-02-06 06:47 AM

That's why Trump says, "I love the poorly educated." Very easily manipulated and bamboozled. He's been ripping them off for decades.

#2 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-02-06 06:53 AM

Stupid is as stupid does
POSTED BY LAURAMOHR

You prove that every day

#3 | Posted by fortfisher at 2025-02-06 09:05 AM

Riiiight. Let's track our education outcomes from 1980 to 2024, shall we.

#4 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-02-06 12:35 PM

#4 actually what have student scores done since the department of Ed was Institute in 1979. That is the measurement of its effectiveness.
Not effective at all, in increasing scores.

#5 | Posted by homerj at 2025-02-06 01:30 PM

Department of Ed has made schools needlessly beaurocratic.

#6 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-02-06 02:51 PM

Unfortunately, they forgot to teach you how to spell.

#7 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-02-06 02:53 PM

The U.S. Department of Education has provided several positive impacts for American citizens since its establishment as a Cabinet-level agency in 1980. These impacts include:

1. Financial support for education: The Department distributes financial aid to eligible applicants for early childhood, elementary, secondary, and postsecondary education[1][2]. This includes grants, loans, and work-study assistance to more than 12 million postsecondary students[1].

2. Promoting educational excellence: The Department works to foster educational excellence and ensure equal access to education for all students[1]. It develops policies, administers programs, and enforces federal education laws to improve the quality of education nationwide[2].

3. Data collection and research: The Department oversees research on various aspects of education, collects data on trends, and identifies best practices in education[2]. This information is disseminated to educators, policymakers, parents, and the public to help improve educational outcomes.

4. Civil rights enforcement: The Department enforces five civil rights statutes to ensure equal educational opportunity for all students, regardless of race, color, national origin, sex, disability, or age[2]. This helps protect the rights of vulnerable populations and promotes equity in education.

5. Student aid programs: The Department administers federal student aid programs, including Pell Grants, which provide need-based grants to low-income undergraduate students[5]. These programs help make higher education more accessible and affordable for many Americans.

6. Support for disadvantaged students: Through programs like Title I, the Department provides additional funding and resources to support disadvantaged students and schools in low-income areas[7].

7. Promoting educational choice: The Department has worked to expand educational options for families, including support for charter schools and school choice programs[7].

While the Department of Education has faced criticism and challenges, these positive impacts demonstrate its role in supporting and improving education for U.S. citizens.

Citations:
[1]
www.ed.gov
[2] www.ed.gov
[3] www.htcsbronx.org
[4] imprimis.hillsdale.edu
[5] www.ed.gov
[6] www.yahoo.com
[7] lawecommons.luc.edu
[8] studentaid.gov
[9] learningpolicyinstitute.org

#8 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2025-02-06 03:05 PM

4. Civil rights enforcement

That's why they want it gone. Civil rights are too DEI/Woke.

#9 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-02-06 03:16 PM

Ratybeach,

The only issue I have with that is the underlying implication that none of those things would have happened were it not for the Dept of Ed.

#10 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-02-06 03:48 PM

The only issue I have with that is the underlying implication that none of those things would have happened were it not for the Dept of Ed.
#10 | Posted by BellRinger

Yet those things happened and it was because of the Dept of Ed. You offer nothing but speculation. Excuse me when I take your issue with a grain of salt.

Can't even provide a hypothetical of how any of those things would have happened without the Dept of Ed? No examples to consider? Just "There's no reason to believe those things would not have happened had it not been for the Dept of Ed"?

Why can't you EVER provide any specifics? What happened to you that makes you so intellectually lazy?

#11 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2025-02-06 03:52 PM

The only issue I have with that is the underlying implication that none of those things would have happened were it not for the Dept of Ed.

Posted by BellRinger at 2025-02-06 03:48 PM | Reply

Ridiculous assertion. How come the people in New England states are some of the highest educated in the US while the south tends to be some of the least educated all of the while the same Department of Education is the same for both?? All depends on what the states priorities are and how much money they have in their coffers doesn't it??

#12 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-02-06 03:54 PM


How come the people in New England states are some of the highest educated in the US while the south tends to be some of the least educated all of the while the same Department of Education is the same for both??

How come?

illiteracy rate in Louisiana
1960 ~6.3% pre DoE
Today ~28%

How has DoE helped them?


4. Civil rights enforcement

That's why they want it gone. Civil rights are too DEI/Woke.
#9 | POSTED BY REDIAL

How so? My understanding is, Civil rights implies ignoring immutable traits, DEI implies only looking at immutable traits.

#13 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-02-06 04:29 PM

All depends on what the states priorities are and how much money they have in their coffers doesn't it??

Louisiana spent less per pupil in today's dollars than it does today, yet had a lower illiteracy rate.

My basic guess is money spent has nothing to do with education levels.

If your argument was true, and it is about $$, then literacy rates across the country would be as low as they were "pre" DoE ~99%.

While the rest of the world gets more and more literate, the US keeps dropping, despite the highest OECD spending per pupil.

#14 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-02-06 04:36 PM

Conservatives have been against public education ever since the first black student was integrated into it.

As with everything else, conservatives are fueled by hate.

#15 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-02-06 04:42 PM

money spent has nothing to do with education levels.

Of course it does.

The problem is, the money isn't going to the teachers and the classrooms.

#16 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-02-06 04:50 PM

While the rest of the world gets more and more literate, the US keeps dropping, despite the highest OECD spending per pupil.

#14 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

MAGA is a sub-culture that frowns on learning.

#17 | Posted by Zed at 2025-02-06 04:53 PM

#14 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

Now, I know that you will object to #17.

Have on.

I have decades of personal observation.

One of the great engines motivating MAGA, second only to racism. is their inability to adapt to the intellectual demands of a changing world.

The adaptation hinges upon proactively learning. This is something they have taught themselves to view as somehow beneath them; somehow subversive. Not conducive to getting drunk or laid.

#18 | Posted by Zed at 2025-02-06 04:58 PM

, Louisiana schools are underfunded. The state has increased per-pupil spending only three times in over 15 years.
Why are Louisiana schools underfunded?
Frozen education spending: Education spending has been frozen for most of the past decade.
Local property taxes: The economic condition of the area influences how much funding schools receive.
Lack of annual increases: Louisiana stopped making annual increases to the financing formula for public schools in 2008.
What are the effects of underfunding?
Students in underfunded schools struggle
Schools are unable to flourish
The state is unable to make new investments in vital programs

#19 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-02-06 05:04 PM

How come?

illiteracy rate in Louisiana
1960 ~6.3% pre DoE
Today ~28%

How has DoE helped them?

4. Civil rights enforcement

That's why they want it gone. Civil rights are too DEI/Woke.
#9 | POSTED BY REDIAL

How so? My understanding is, Civil rights implies ignoring immutable traits, DEI implies only looking at immutable traits.

#13 | Posted by oneironaut

I'll bet a billion dollars they weren't counting black people in 1960

#20 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-02-06 05:23 PM

#15 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2025-02-06 04:42 PM | FLAG: | NEWSWORTHY 1

Now that is funny as the only hate I see being spewed on a continual basis over the years comes from the left. Also, guess you're too young to remember that it was dems how fought against integrating the schools.

#21 | Posted by MSgt at 2025-02-06 07:17 PM

@#21 ... Now that is funny as the only hate I see being spewed on a continual basis over the years comes from the left. ...

Really?

'So evil' and 'dangerous': Trump doubles down on calling Democrats 'enemies from within'
www.nbcnews.com

What examples you got?

#22 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-02-07 01:17 AM

@#20 ... they weren't counting black people in 1960 ...

I'd say. that is a likely scenario.

#23 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-02-07 01:18 AM

@#13 ... How so? My understanding is, Civil rights implies ignoring immutable traits, DEI implies only looking at immutable traits. ...

Yeah, but the one aspect your current alias' comment seems to omit is that DEI was put into place because of the exact issue your current alias seems to have with it, i.e., looking at immutable traits.

Stated differently ...

Trump Official Said 'Competent White Men Must Be in Charge'
drudge.com

#24 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-02-07 01:26 AM

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