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95% of students with disabilities learn in public schools, and the Department of Education ensures they get the support they need and deserve. Learn more on how eliminating the department would deepen inequalities and harm students nationwide: https://bit.ly/3Ct46Nz

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-- National Education Association (@neatoday.bsky.social) February 6, 2025 at 8:36 AM

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Highly educated adults " particularly those who have attended graduate school " are far more likely than those with less education to take predominantly liberal positions across a range of political values. And these differences have increased over the past two decades.

#1 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-02-06 06:47 AM | Reply

That's why Trump says, "I love the poorly educated." Very easily manipulated and bamboozled. He's been ripping them off for decades.

#2 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-02-06 06:53 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Stupid is as stupid does
POSTED BY LAURAMOHR

You prove that every day

#3 | Posted by fortfisher at 2025-02-06 09:05 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Riiiight. Let's track our education outcomes from 1980 to 2024, shall we.

#4 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-02-06 12:35 PM | Reply

#4 actually what have student scores done since the department of Ed was Institute in 1979. That is the measurement of its effectiveness.
Not effective at all, in increasing scores.

#5 | Posted by homerj at 2025-02-06 01:30 PM | Reply

Department of Ed has made schools needlessly beaurocratic.

#6 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-02-06 02:51 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Unfortunately, they forgot to teach you how to spell.

#7 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-02-06 02:53 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

The U.S. Department of Education has provided several positive impacts for American citizens since its establishment as a Cabinet-level agency in 1980. These impacts include:

1. Financial support for education: The Department distributes financial aid to eligible applicants for early childhood, elementary, secondary, and postsecondary education[1][2]. This includes grants, loans, and work-study assistance to more than 12 million postsecondary students[1].

2. Promoting educational excellence: The Department works to foster educational excellence and ensure equal access to education for all students[1]. It develops policies, administers programs, and enforces federal education laws to improve the quality of education nationwide[2].

3. Data collection and research: The Department oversees research on various aspects of education, collects data on trends, and identifies best practices in education[2]. This information is disseminated to educators, policymakers, parents, and the public to help improve educational outcomes.

4. Civil rights enforcement: The Department enforces five civil rights statutes to ensure equal educational opportunity for all students, regardless of race, color, national origin, sex, disability, or age[2]. This helps protect the rights of vulnerable populations and promotes equity in education.

5. Student aid programs: The Department administers federal student aid programs, including Pell Grants, which provide need-based grants to low-income undergraduate students[5]. These programs help make higher education more accessible and affordable for many Americans.

6. Support for disadvantaged students: Through programs like Title I, the Department provides additional funding and resources to support disadvantaged students and schools in low-income areas[7].

7. Promoting educational choice: The Department has worked to expand educational options for families, including support for charter schools and school choice programs[7].

While the Department of Education has faced criticism and challenges, these positive impacts demonstrate its role in supporting and improving education for U.S. citizens.

Citations:
[1]
www.ed.gov
[2] www.ed.gov
[3] www.htcsbronx.org
[4] imprimis.hillsdale.edu
[5] www.ed.gov
[6] www.yahoo.com
[7] lawecommons.luc.edu
[8] studentaid.gov
[9] learningpolicyinstitute.org

#8 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2025-02-06 03:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

4. Civil rights enforcement

That's why they want it gone. Civil rights are too DEI/Woke.

#9 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-02-06 03:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Ratybeach,

The only issue I have with that is the underlying implication that none of those things would have happened were it not for the Dept of Ed.

#10 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-02-06 03:48 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

The only issue I have with that is the underlying implication that none of those things would have happened were it not for the Dept of Ed.
#10 | Posted by BellRinger

Yet those things happened and it was because of the Dept of Ed. You offer nothing but speculation. Excuse me when I take your issue with a grain of salt.

Can't even provide a hypothetical of how any of those things would have happened without the Dept of Ed? No examples to consider? Just "There's no reason to believe those things would not have happened had it not been for the Dept of Ed"?

Why can't you EVER provide any specifics? What happened to you that makes you so intellectually lazy?

#11 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2025-02-06 03:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

The only issue I have with that is the underlying implication that none of those things would have happened were it not for the Dept of Ed.

Posted by BellRinger at 2025-02-06 03:48 PM | Reply

Ridiculous assertion. How come the people in New England states are some of the highest educated in the US while the south tends to be some of the least educated all of the while the same Department of Education is the same for both?? All depends on what the states priorities are and how much money they have in their coffers doesn't it??

#12 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-02-06 03:54 PM | Reply


How come the people in New England states are some of the highest educated in the US while the south tends to be some of the least educated all of the while the same Department of Education is the same for both??

How come?

illiteracy rate in Louisiana
1960 ~6.3% pre DoE
Today ~28%

How has DoE helped them?


4. Civil rights enforcement

That's why they want it gone. Civil rights are too DEI/Woke.
#9 | POSTED BY REDIAL

How so? My understanding is, Civil rights implies ignoring immutable traits, DEI implies only looking at immutable traits.

#13 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-02-06 04:29 PM | Reply

All depends on what the states priorities are and how much money they have in their coffers doesn't it??

Louisiana spent less per pupil in today's dollars than it does today, yet had a lower illiteracy rate.

My basic guess is money spent has nothing to do with education levels.

If your argument was true, and it is about $$, then literacy rates across the country would be as low as they were "pre" DoE ~99%.

While the rest of the world gets more and more literate, the US keeps dropping, despite the highest OECD spending per pupil.

#14 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-02-06 04:36 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Conservatives have been against public education ever since the first black student was integrated into it.

As with everything else, conservatives are fueled by hate.

#15 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-02-06 04:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

money spent has nothing to do with education levels.

Of course it does.

The problem is, the money isn't going to the teachers and the classrooms.

#16 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-02-06 04:50 PM | Reply

While the rest of the world gets more and more literate, the US keeps dropping, despite the highest OECD spending per pupil.

#14 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

MAGA is a sub-culture that frowns on learning.

#17 | Posted by Zed at 2025-02-06 04:53 PM | Reply

#14 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

Now, I know that you will object to #17.

Have on.

I have decades of personal observation.

One of the great engines motivating MAGA, second only to racism. is their inability to adapt to the intellectual demands of a changing world.

The adaptation hinges upon proactively learning. This is something they have taught themselves to view as somehow beneath them; somehow subversive. Not conducive to getting drunk or laid.

#18 | Posted by Zed at 2025-02-06 04:58 PM | Reply

, Louisiana schools are underfunded. The state has increased per-pupil spending only three times in over 15 years.
Why are Louisiana schools underfunded?
Frozen education spending: Education spending has been frozen for most of the past decade.
Local property taxes: The economic condition of the area influences how much funding schools receive.
Lack of annual increases: Louisiana stopped making annual increases to the financing formula for public schools in 2008.
What are the effects of underfunding?
Students in underfunded schools struggle
Schools are unable to flourish
The state is unable to make new investments in vital programs

#19 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-02-06 05:04 PM | Reply

How come?

illiteracy rate in Louisiana
1960 ~6.3% pre DoE
Today ~28%

How has DoE helped them?

4. Civil rights enforcement

That's why they want it gone. Civil rights are too DEI/Woke.
#9 | POSTED BY REDIAL

How so? My understanding is, Civil rights implies ignoring immutable traits, DEI implies only looking at immutable traits.

#13 | Posted by oneironaut

I'll bet a billion dollars they weren't counting black people in 1960

#20 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-02-06 05:23 PM | Reply

#15 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2025-02-06 04:42 PM | FLAG: | NEWSWORTHY 1

Now that is funny as the only hate I see being spewed on a continual basis over the years comes from the left. Also, guess you're too young to remember that it was dems how fought against integrating the schools.

#21 | Posted by MSgt at 2025-02-06 07:17 PM | Reply

@#21 ... Now that is funny as the only hate I see being spewed on a continual basis over the years comes from the left. ...

Really?

'So evil' and 'dangerous': Trump doubles down on calling Democrats 'enemies from within'
www.nbcnews.com

What examples you got?

#22 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-02-07 01:17 AM | Reply

@#20 ... they weren't counting black people in 1960 ...

I'd say. that is a likely scenario.

#23 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-02-07 01:18 AM | Reply

@#13 ... How so? My understanding is, Civil rights implies ignoring immutable traits, DEI implies only looking at immutable traits. ...

Yeah, but the one aspect your current alias' comment seems to omit is that DEI was put into place because of the exact issue your current alias seems to have with it, i.e., looking at immutable traits.

Stated differently ...

Trump Official Said 'Competent White Men Must Be in Charge'
drudge.com

#24 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-02-07 01:26 AM | Reply

The Dept of Education should be judged like anything else, based on its performance. It's been a miserable failure. Just another bureaucratic cash grab.

#25 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-02-07 09:10 AM | Reply

#25
Please substantiate with the results of your in-depth investigation. The world awaits, eagerly.

#26 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-02-07 09:12 AM | Reply

The Dept of Education should be judged like anything else, based on its performance.

#25 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Like anything else?

Like you judge Donald?

You are silly as well as stupid.

#27 | Posted by Zed at 2025-02-07 09:21 AM | Reply

#25
Please substantiate with the results of your in-depth investigation. The world awaits, eagerly.

#26 | POSTED BY DOC_SARVIS AT 2025-02-07 09:12 AM | FLAG:

Search "number of failing school districts" then search over time. You're welcome.

#28 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-02-07 09:26 AM | Reply

#25 | Posted by lfthndthrds

You and MAGA are people that I refused to believe existed in the United States not all that long ago.

"Judged like anything else"?

You people have no standards.

I mean, you pretend to apply standards towards other people, as some sort of cudgel or snarky game.

But you have none that you are serious about; none that you won't modify, change, or frankly ditch if they become inconvenient.

You're a sewer.

#29 | Posted by Zed at 2025-02-07 09:28 AM | Reply

Search "number of failing school districts"

#28 | Posted by lfthndthrds

I grew up with you.

I know why school districts fail.

Most of you people couldn't wait for school to end so that you could go back to sleep.

Now you don't even wait to sleep.

Where do you think your MAGA hatred of science comes from?

Your hatred of virtually every legitimate system of organized knowledge?

#30 | Posted by Zed at 2025-02-07 09:30 AM | Reply

You're a sewer.

#29 | POSTED BY ZED AT 2025-02-07 09:28 AM | REPLY | FLAG:

Thank you, and I mean it from the bottom of my heart.

#31 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-02-07 09:33 AM | Reply

28 | Posted by lfthndthrds

You people won't look at who and what you are.

You're going to run away from it until the inevitable societal disaster rubs it in your faces.

And then you will run away even faster.

#32 | Posted by Zed at 2025-02-07 09:34 AM | Reply

I mean it from the bottom of my heart.

#31 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Of course you do.

You'd have to.

When you can't form a healthy identity you embrace the dark one.

MAGA explained simply and thoroughly.

#33 | Posted by Zed at 2025-02-07 09:40 AM | Reply

#28
Well, there's an "F." Thanks for trying, but it's the results that count.

#34 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-02-07 09:45 AM | Reply

#28
Well, there's an "F." Thanks for trying, but it's the results that count.

#34 | POSTED BY DOC_SARVIS AT 2025-02-07 09:45 AM | FLAG:

^ poster child for failing education system. Maybe you really don't know how to look it up, and that's ok. I'm
Not saying there isn't hope for you, but there's not a lot I can do from here.

#35 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-02-07 10:03 AM | Reply

LMAO

x.com

#36 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-02-07 11:45 AM | Reply

Illiteracy rate in Louisiana
1960 ~6.3% pre DoE
Today ~28%

How has DoE helped them?

#13 | Posted by oneironaut

Apparently not by educating people like you.

The standard for being illiterate has changed huge over the last 60 years.

People today who would be considered illiterate would pass back then.

In addition, they didn't exactly include huge numbers of minorities or anyone with mental handicaps.

Denny's has to put pictures on its menu for people like you.

#37 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-02-07 01:47 PM | Reply

#28
Well, there's an "F." Thanks for trying, but it's the results that count.

#34 | POSTED BY DOC_SARVIS AT 2025-02-07 09:45 AM | FLAG:

^ poster child for failing education system. Maybe you really don't know how to look it up, and that's ok. I'm
Not saying there isn't hope for you, but there's not a lot I can do from here.

#35 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Jesus, LeftHandTurds, you really are that dumb?

You don't think we have changed entirely what qualifies as a failing school these days?

Do you have any idea how many schools from the 80's wouldn't even come close to the standards for today?

#38 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-02-07 01:49 PM | Reply

The problem is, the money isn't going to the teachers and the classrooms.

#16 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2025-02-06 04:50 PM | REPLY |

Well said. That is why the DOE needs to be shut down and the money sent directly to the states in the form of block grants.

#39 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-02-07 02:09 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Trumpublicans want ALL States to be as edumacated at the bottom 10 states:

wallethub.com

You know, the Red ones.

#40 | Posted by Corky at 2025-02-07 02:15 PM | Reply

#39 | Posted by fishpaw

I bet you can't guess who provides states direct funding via block grants.

#41 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2025-02-07 02:35 PM | Reply

Now that is funny as the only hate I see being spewed on a continual basis over the years comes from the left.
#21 | Posted by MSgt

That's because you're willfully ignorant AND in a cult.

Swallow it.

#42 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2025-02-07 02:39 PM | Reply

IF ANY......of you tuetonic twits knew even a little about what you're talking about...

you would know that since it's inception.....scores have consistently gone down...

#43 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-02-07 05:44 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Public education is failing. Time to find out why and fix it.

#44 | Posted by Robson at 2025-02-07 08:09 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Harm students, really? How about someone here cite all the great successes of the Dept Of Ed...

#45 | Posted by MSgt at 2025-02-08 10:16 AM | Reply

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