Tuesday, February 18, 2025

Trump's Confidential Plan to put Ukraine in a Stranglehold

Panic in Kyiv as US president demands higher share of GDP than Germany's First World War reparations Donald Trump's demand for a $500bn (400bn) "payback" from Ukraine goes far beyond US control over the country's critical minerals.

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The agreement covers the "economic value associated with resources of Ukraine", including "mineral resources, oil and gas resources, ports, other infrastructure (as agreed)", leaving it unclear what else might be encompassed. The US will take 50pc of recurring revenues received by Ukraine from extraction of resources, and 50pc of the financial value of "all new licences issued to third parties" for the future monetisation of resources. There will be "a lien on such revenues" in favour of the US. "That clause means pay us first, and then feed your children'," said one source close to the negotiations.
Trump is seeking to suck Ukraine's wealth while simultaneously enriching Putin and making the Ukrainians suffer. No surprises here.

#1 | Posted by censored at 2025-02-17 02:34 PM

This was dismissed immediately by Ukraine as being offered, "nearly nothing".

Besides which, Trump would prolly just sell his shares to Vlad.

#2 | Posted by Corky at 2025-02-17 02:38 PM

#1

As opposed to Ukraine sucking the USs wealth while simultaneously weakening the US military capabilities.

#3 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-02-17 02:47 PM

This was dismissed immediately by Ukraine as being offered, "nearly nothing".
- corkster

Easy to do when you aren't the one footing the bill.

#4 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-02-17 02:47 PM

simultaneously weakening the US military capabilities.

You just make stuff up.

Were you using those javelins we've been giving Ukraine? Were we? Link or stink and X.com doesn't count, buddy.

#5 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-02-17 02:53 PM

IAMRUNT supports this:

thehill.com

#6 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-02-17 02:53 PM

Easy to do when you aren't the one footing the bill.

#4 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

The Ukrainians are not required to pawn their sovereignty for people like you.

#7 | Posted by Zed at 2025-02-17 02:53 PM

weakening the US military capabilities.

#3 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

Aw, man.

You lie like a dog.

What's your point?

As if I can't guess.

#8 | Posted by Zed at 2025-02-17 02:55 PM

As opposed to Ukraine sucking the USs wealth while simultaneously weakening the US military capabilities.
#3 | Posted by oneironaut

You mean by taking out Russia as our second biggest threat for the next couple generations at the cost of about 10% of our yearly defense budget without risking a single American life? I feel weaker already.

Easy to do when you aren't the one footing the bill.
#4 | Posted by oneironaut

Yeah, many is the time I lamented how the Ukrainians are defending themselves with no risk or costs. A bunch of lazy MFers, if you ask me. You're trolling is worth at least one kopek.

#9 | Posted by censored at 2025-02-17 02:55 PM

#4 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

Now don't you feel stupid?

Imagine how many other lies you are emotionally attached to.

#10 | Posted by Zed at 2025-02-17 02:59 PM

1Nut is a drooling Musk Tech Boi wannabe, saving up for a used Tesla 3... which makes him like a Janitor at some tech related firm.

#11 | Posted by Corky at 2025-02-17 03:05 PM

Now don't you feel stupid?

He lacks the intelligence and self awareness to understand how stupid he is.

#12 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-02-17 03:24 PM

IAMRUNT supports this:

thehill.com

#6 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-02-17 02:53 PM | Reply | Flag

That's really special... All I've heard for you and the rest of the Klown Kar for the past two years is that Ukraine was kicking Russian ass and winning the war. Funny how the story changes as soon as the purse get's zipped up.

#13 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-02-17 04:50 PM

Ukraine owes the US a LOT of money for these escapades we funded over the last couple years.

#14 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-02-17 04:52 PM

All I've heard for you and the rest of the Klown Kar for the past two years is that Ukraine was kicking Russian ass and winning the war. Funny how the story changes as soon as the purse get's zipped up.
#13 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Ukraine is doing well inflicting high casualties on a nation that dwarfs its military and population. But it is losing slowly. However, Ukraine is willing to fight and we should help them as it is in our mutual interest to see a weakened Russia.

Ukraine owes the US a LOT of money for these escapades we funded over the last couple years.
#14 | Posted by lfthndthrds

If only there was something at stake more important than immediate financial recompense. I doubt any current GOPer could spot that at the moment, what with Hair Furor telling them how Putin is our BFF and a Russian fascist empire should be welcomed across Europe.

#15 | Posted by censored at 2025-02-17 05:17 PM

" All I've heard for you and the rest of the Klown Kar for the past two years is that Ukraine was kicking Russian ass"

From what I've heard, Putin is going to take Kiev in three days.

You were saying?

#16 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-02-17 05:51 PM

All I've heard for you and the rest of the Klown Kar for the past two years is that Ukraine was kicking Russian ass and winning the war.

Even trump admitted at his debate with Kamala Harris that russia had lost 315,000 men.

That was months ago, god knows what it is now. I wouldn't call that a victory by any stretch of the imagination. Would you?

#17 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-02-17 07:00 PM

A November 2024 report by the French Institute of International Relations referenced British military intelligence that said that as of May 2024, Russia's killed and wounded was up to 500,000. Using data from other conflicts to estimate the amount of Russian irreversible losses (those killed, wounded who died in hospital, or otherwise immobilized), the report suggested total irreversible Russian casualties in Ukraine by mid-summer 2024 had reached around 460,000.

www.newsweek.com

So much winning!

#18 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-02-17 07:07 PM

French Institute of International Relations

Aka the white flag gang.

#19 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-02-17 07:49 PM

Even trump admitted at his debate with Kamala Harris that russia had lost 315,000 men.
- Alexa

And how many Ukrainians did he say died?

#20 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-02-17 07:50 PM

You just make stuff up.
- Alexa

Not at all
foreignpolicy.com

#21 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-02-17 07:53 PM

Not at all
foreignpolicy.com
#21 | Posted by oneironaut

That commentary doesn't say what OneIronTurd said it says. But that should come as no surprise.

#22 | Posted by censored at 2025-02-18 10:09 AM

weakening the US military capabilities.

#3 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

I dare say strengthening. They caused us and our allies to actually rebuild production capabilities in preparation for wars to come in this totalitarian forming society. That includes making weapons put in storage for decades that lines had been shutdown on while retirees could still be found who knew how to do it.

#23 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2025-02-18 01:31 PM

I just learned this reading about WWII, did you know FDR stripped the UK of all its gold and negotiable reserves before agreeing to Lend Lease.

He told them Canada was not suitable as a destination for their monarchy in distress, only the Caribbean.
FDR deliberately structured US intervention to doom the British Empire and take it into American receivership.

UK only finished repaying WWII debt in 2006.

I don't see anyone complaining about FDR/

#24 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-02-19 01:21 AM


They caused us and our allies to actually rebuild production capabilities in preparation for wars to come in this totalitarian forming society.

They didn't "rebuild production" they realize how in adequate their capabilities are.

But people in the US military are supposed to know this without needing millions of people displaced or killed.

Isn't that the point of a government? Too look out long term for the needs and wants of the systems that keep it going?

All this did is dare, I say., revealed incompetence.

#25 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-02-19 01:24 AM


"I promised you what and when about Lend-Lease?" "Huh?"

#26 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-02-19 01:27 AM

Wow!

What an "offer Zelensky cannot refuse!"

This tactic must have been learned when studying "Extortion & Grifting 101" at the vaunted & famous "Trump University".

Wonder if his instructor was John Gotti or Bernardo Provenzano? Either way, Trump & Putin are two peas in a pod. Hard to tell them apart.

#27 | Posted by Augustine at 2025-02-19 06:39 AM

"weakening the US military capabilities."

Coward is shaking in his boots because we are sending Ukraine weapons to defend themselves. Or at least we were til Traitor Trump started helping Putin in his unprovoked war. Disgusting; a shameful day in American history.

#28 | Posted by danni at 2025-02-19 06:59 AM

Not Unprovoked. Ukraine was encouraged by NATO to be Stupid.

Big Surprise....the US is an Unreliable source of funding and weapons.

Zelinsky looks pretty damn Stupid about Now.

He saw the way the wind was blowing in America.

He should have sued for Peace, long ago.

But Cretins and Crackheads never learn.

#29 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-02-19 10:59 AM

"Aka the white flag gang."

Careful there, it isn't like we emerged victorious from Afghanistan or Vietnam. Korea was a wash, we didn't finish the job in the first Iraq war. We don't have a great record in the latter half of the 20th and the early half of the 21st century.

#30 | Posted by dibblda at 2025-02-19 10:58 PM

He's a fat ------- grifter.

#31 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-02-19 11:42 PM

#29

---- off Russian stooge

#32 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-02-19 11:42 PM

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