UK Supreme Court rules “Trans women” are not women

Wednesday, April 16, 2025

LONDON " Britain's Supreme Court has ruled that the legal definition of a woman is someone born biologically female. Wednesday's ruling is the culmination of a long-running legal battle that began in Scotland in 2018. But it has big implications for transgender people across the United Kingdom " at a time when similar legal challenges are underway in the United States after President Trump banned transgender people from military service. What does the ruling say? The court's five judges issued an 88-page judgment. In it, they say the "concept of sex is binary, a person is either a woman or a man."

Posted by Bluewaffles at 03:10 PM | 95 COMMENTS | permalink

Well, glad that's settled.

Comments

It's a shame it had to get that far, but it's common sense.

But that's something liberals don't have.

#1 | Posted by boaz at 2025-04-16 03:19 PM

Right. Poop on the constitution you swore to uphold today?

#2 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-04-16 03:26 PM

I guess every trans denier is going to post this story...

#3 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-16 03:28 PM

No one is "denying" someone as "trans" snoofy. But the matter of a man in a dress claiming to be a woman isn't factually true and in the UK that matter has been resolved.

#4 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-04-16 03:36 PM

"No one is "denying" someone as "trans" snoofy."

Of course you are, don't be silly!

#5 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-16 03:40 PM

The Gnostic Roots of the Trans Movements

thinkingwest.com

This is about philosophy, not morals, as it is so often couched.

And in a free society, one should be allowed their own philosophy without condemnation, judgement, or penalty as long as it doesn't harm others.

Like if your philosophy is that it's OK to have a felon and a traitor in the WH. Now that's harmful to both oneself and to others.

#6 | Posted by Corky at 2025-04-16 04:05 PM

-And in a free society, one should be allowed their own philosophy without condemnation, judgement, or penalty as long as it doesn't harm others.

Oh, we can't exclude anybody from condemnation or judgement. Free Speech.

#7 | Posted by eberly at 2025-04-16 04:31 PM

- Free Speech.

Has it's limits in the law, and that's the thread context.

But yeah, whining about people that are different than one's self is a premium human past time, which is fine as long as it's not made law.

#8 | Posted by Corky at 2025-04-16 04:37 PM

But that's something liberals don't have.

#1 | POSTED BY BOAZ

lol the lack of self awareness is strong with this leech.

#9 | Posted by jpw at 2025-04-16 06:14 PM

Sex and gender are not the same thing

#10 | Posted by hamburglar at 2025-04-16 06:30 PM

Oh, we can't exclude anybody from condemnation or judgement. Free Speech.
#7 | Posted by eberly

Actually,
What you're supposed to do is,

Judge someone by the content of their character.
I can understand why you prefer just to skip that part.
Wouldn't want up ruffle any feathers.
You prefer a civil, polite society.

#11 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-16 06:34 PM

A terrorized society is a polite society

#12 | Posted by hamburglar at 2025-04-16 06:35 PM

The court's five judges issued an 88-page judgment. In it, they say the "concept of sex is binary, a person is either a woman or a man."

Swyer syndrome says you're wrong. As well as other gendered people. But do carry on with your balderdash and ignorance.

#13 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-04-16 06:37 PM

That law required half of the board members in all Scottish public organizations to be women.

Seems some women were unhappy that their spots were taken by trans. Reminds me of this Chapelle skit on Caitlyn Jenner being named Woman of the Year.

#14 | Posted by censored at 2025-04-16 06:40 PM

drudge.com

#15 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-04-16 06:42 PM

Transgender people have never needed permission to exist.

This decision won't change that.

#16 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-04-16 06:43 PM

The court's five judges issued an 88-page judgment. In it, they say the "concept of sex is binary, a person is either a woman or a man."

Well that's just sloppy. In two ways.

The sexes are Male and Female, not Man and Woman.

And while the concept of sex is binary, sometimes nature blues those lines.

The "concept" of sex, ontologically speaking, is a model, based on an organism's chromosomal content.

Biology is replete with examples where the model fails, but that does not render the concept useless. But it does mean the model is not applicable to every circumstance.

"All models are wrong. Some models are useful."
George E. P. Box

#17 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-16 06:45 PM

In it, they say the "concept of sex is binary, a person is either a woman or a man."

This is completely incorrect. Someone doesn't stop being a person because they are intersex.

Although the law does not have a spot in mind for them with their reserve system for 50/50 man/woman.

#18 | Posted by censored at 2025-04-16 06:49 PM

the UK that matter has been resolved.

#4 | POSTED BY BLUEWAFFLES

So you are accepting rulings from the UK as definitive now?

I'd accept this law as definitive and "resolved" if you accept in America the rest of what the UK has accepted as "resolved". And I bet you know exactly where I am going with this.

In the UK, possessing firearms requires a certificate issued by the police. The Firearms Act 1968 and subsequent amendments regulate firearms and their ammunition, and it is an offense to possess or acquire a firearm without a certificate. To obtain a certificate, applicants must demonstrate a "good reason" for ownership and be assessed as not posing a threat to public safety.

So according to your logic we should accept "The Firearms Act 1968" as definitive and resolved?

Because it's the law in the UK you know.

#19 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-04-16 07:11 PM

On May 10, 2016 I posted in response to a transgender news story revolving around a girl in a high school, Gavin Grimm, who wanted to use the boys restroom and was banned. Around 2016, the issue of transgender students and bathroom access exploded into a national controversy, largely due to political and legal battles sparked by high-profile cases and government actions. That was essentally when the word "transgender" entered the vernacular of straights who really knew nothing or even cared about the subject.

Where this transgender thing is going.
Here's what I see happening in the future.
The rights of millions of women to their privacy will ultimately win out and transgendered people will have to use either their "natural" bathroom or a single occupancy unisex facility. After all is said and done, transgendered people will rue the day their cause was picked up by the gay rights movement. (gay rights and transgender issues are not that connected...if you look at the big picture)
Transgendered people will be forced to obey new laws when they could have simply used the opposite facility quietly without a lot of drama before the gay rights people decided a few teenage kids who aren't old or experienced enough to make such a decision were pushed along by adults with an agenda.
Straight people will eventually say enough is enough.
Invading the privacy of women is insanity.
Liberals are the new definition of "rebels without a cause".
They're desperate to remain relevant.

POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON AT 2016-05-10 09:54 PM | REPLY

#20 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-04-16 07:22 PM

DEI hire Bo-ass ain't a man.

#21 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-04-16 07:26 PM

This issue requires critical thinking, which is why MAGAs don't like critical thinking of any sort

#22 | Posted by hamburglar at 2025-04-16 07:33 PM

"Swyer syndrome says you're wrong.
#13 | Posted by LauraMohr"

Conflating a genetic disorder with a mental disorder or sexual kink is why people don't take the trans movement seriously.

#23 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-16 07:47 PM

a transgender news story revolving around a girl in a high school, Gavin Grimm, who wanted to use the boys restroom and was banned. ...
The rights of millions of women to their privacy will ultimately win out

Are you saying Gavin Grimm is the woman,
And the win for "millions of women"
Is biological females who identify as trans men
Get to use the boys bathroom?
???

The case involved a transgender boy attending a Virginia high school, who sued the local school board after he was forced to use girls' restrooms based on his assigned gender under the school board's policy. While the Fourth Circuit ruled in favor of the student based on Obama administration policy related to Title IX protections, the election of Donald Trump changed the underlying policy. A pending hearing before the Supreme Court of the United States was vacated and the case was sent back to the Fourth Circuit.

Due to recent case law, including the Supreme Court decision in Bostock v. Clayton County, the Fourth Circuit ruled again in favor of the student; the Supreme Court refused to hear the case by denying certiorari in 2021, allowing the Fourth Circuit's judgment to stand.
en.wikipedia.org

#24 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-16 08:27 PM

2016 was also the year people put Trump in office. All that year it was believed Hillary was a sure thing up until about 9 PM the day of the election when the SNL cast realized all their shows made for the last 6 months will never go into syndication. The gloating got tiring with Alec Baldwin doing Trump and Kate McKinnon doing Hillary.

That year I voted for Trump after having voted a straight democrat ticket consistantly after Reagan.

Why?

Having just seen Gay Marriage passed by the Supreme Court the year before I realized the SCOUS could actually possibly make women permanent second class citizens to transgendered people. OMG...it could actually happen.

Whoever was the next president would very likely have an opportunity to nominate 3 justices and that will never do.

Bottomline, I wonder how many other people saw this possibiliy and quietly voted for Trump without it showing up in polls.

Conservatives tend to keep their opinions to themselves and most likely would not tell pollsters.

#25 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-04-16 09:45 PM

#25 | POSTED BY BULLJOHNSON

You're ------- retarded.

There nothing in that stupid post you wrote that merits any more of a response than that.

#26 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-04-16 10:02 PM

"Conservatives tend to keep their opinions to themselves and most likely would not tell pollsters."

I disagree, I think conservatives are quite open on their bigotry towards trans people.

For example, Trump ordered them all out of the military.

How do men become second class citizens when GG uses the boys restroom? Please explain how that is affecting us, as we are both men, and I don't feel diminished by it, but you do.

#27 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-16 10:08 PM

Well Clown, you can say Bill is retarded but he is certainly correct on people privately voting against those "values" in the privacy of the voting booth.

#28 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-04-16 10:09 PM

Having just seen Gay Marriage passed by the Supreme Court

It was passed by states before it was touched by the Supreme Court.

And since then, has been legalized federally by Congress.

Your insane hatred for homosexuality should be embarrassing for you.

Go find some self awareness.

#29 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-04-16 10:14 PM

people privately voting against those "values" in the privacy of the voting booth.
#28 | POSTED BY BLUEWAFFLES

Actually, Waffle, People voted for my values.

Homosexuals have gained tolerance in society to the point where we can live our lives more freely.

A handful of fanatics are fighting tooth and nail to reverse the will of the people and they're going to whatever means they need.

Such as branding teachers as groomers and libraries as dens of heathens.

I can't help it if idiots believe them.

#30 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-04-16 10:19 PM

Clown let me explain where the line is just so it's clear. Yes your community is tolerated and accepted (to a certain point) the line gets crossed when you guys parade in dog masks with leashes in front of children at the Pride Parade. Follow the logic?

#31 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-04-16 10:55 PM

What are your children doing at a pride parade?

#32 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-04-16 10:56 PM

Trans people could have potentially been on the same track to "acceptance", instead they invaded women's sports, showers and restrooms and now it took a court to state the obvious fact that the rest of us have known all along.

#33 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-04-16 10:57 PM

I wouldn't take a child to a pride parade Alex, but plenty of your female voting base certainly do!

#34 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-04-16 10:58 PM

"people privately voting against those "values" in the privacy of the voting booth."

Those people are not so private any more.

They have tested the waters and found them warm and comforting, like tranny pee.

#35 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-16 11:00 PM

@#31 ... Yes your community is tolerated and accepted (to a certain point) ...

Why should any US citizen be tolerated and accepted only "to a certain point?"

What is the reasoning behind that statement?

#36 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-16 11:07 PM

"----sexuals have gained tolerance in society to the point where we can live our lives more freely.
#30 | Posted by ClownShack"

ClownShack is a ----? I did not know that. I guess being a liberal male, there is a 75% chance, but never heard this before.

#37 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-16 11:41 PM

Lamp it is the inverse of reasoning behind the intolerance of far leftists and anyone isn't in lockstep with them.

#38 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-04-17 12:31 AM

Many conservatives in society actually have a live and let live philosophy. Especially when compared to the anarchist angry intolerant left of spewing inappropriate language as absurd adjectives while damaging property and shooting CEOs and POTUSs and others.

The real threat originates from the public faces of those triggered with reckless uncontrolled anger and intolerance. No one better exemplifies that than the speeches from 4 years of a "sharp as a tack" Joe Biden threatening maga.

I've never see Trump display anger. Biden still does it regularly.

#39 | Posted by Robson at 2025-04-17 07:24 AM

bluewaffles- what are you going to do if one of your kids is trans?

#40 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-04-17 02:01 PM

It sad people like BlueWaffles need to have a trans child before they can understand what trans people go through.

It is/was the same with homosexuality. It wasn't until conservatives started realizing their own children were homosexuals before they started accepting we're all people.

Unfortunately for some gay and lesbian children, their parents didn't accept them and kicked them out.

Which is absolutely insane, to reject your own flesh and blood, because you've been taught to hate who they are.

#41 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-04-17 03:45 PM

#41: My wife and I bought some handmade jewelry from a young woman who was thrown out of the house by her own family because she was LGBTQ. We couldn't believe how cruel her family was. She was a nice kid, too. My wife went back to that neighborhood but never saw her again.

#42 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-04-17 04:00 PM

" 42 | POSTED BY C0RI0LANUS AT 2025-04-17 04:00 PM | FLAG: "

Several years ago a gay cousin of mine got married. All but two on my cousin's side of the family attended and the two that didn't had obligations they couldn't get out of. It a single member of his husband's family attended and it was deliberate. It was sad.

#43 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-04-17 07:28 PM

I've never see Trump display anger.

#39 | POSTED BY ROBSON

Liar.

Simply another stupid lie, ROBSON.

Christ, it must hurt to be you.

#44 | Posted by Zed at 2025-04-17 07:49 PM

Trump isn't angry about what liberals have done to our great cities?

#45 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-17 07:52 PM

"#41 | Posted by ClownShack"

You being a flaming homosexual makes a A LOT of sense with your posting style. You write like someone that has never been punched in the face before so I can see you hiding behind your homosexual lifestyle to avoid any real like attitude adjustment.

But I have to ask - other than JPW (who claims to be married), are there no other non-homosexual liberal males on this website? I know Yav, Alexandrite, LegallyImRetarded, Rein (gay pedophile), Danforth (bi), LauraMohr (trans homosexual/other), Lamp (Incel/homosexual)...hell in a lesbian Danni and this whole liberal side are LGBTQA+.

#46 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-17 08:25 PM

#46

I hope you didn't put too much effort into writing that sad plea for attention.

You poor poor thing.

#47 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-04-17 08:30 PM

"#47 | Posted by ClownShack"

Maybe you can help me out - which liberal male poster on here outside of JPW is not a homosexual?

#48 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-17 08:36 PM

Scatberg is a pedophile and a necrophile.

#49 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-04-17 08:38 PM

"#49 | Posted by reinheitsgebot"

You don't need to chime in - I already have you listed as a homosexual pedophile.

#50 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-17 08:40 PM

= Scatberg is

And racist and homophobic and misogynistic and jingoistic. Not to mention narcissistic and psychopathic, so I won't mention those.

#51 | Posted by Corky at 2025-04-17 08:42 PM

- I already have you listed as a homosexual pedophile.

No wonder I've had to kill two dozen of his sockpuppets.

#52 | Posted by Corky at 2025-04-17 08:45 PM

Scatberg is George Santos' ------ sponsor.

#53 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-04-17 08:46 PM

"#52 | Posted by Corky"

You honestly don't think Rein is a homosexual pedophile? I don't see how you read his posts and come to any other conclusion. Or, are you arguing he is a pedophile but not a homosexual pedophile?

#54 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-17 08:48 PM

More projection from kid-diddling scatberg.

#55 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-04-17 08:50 PM

"#55 | Posted by reinheitsgebot"

I will let you self-identify. Tell me, are you a pedophile or a homosexual pedophile?

#56 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-17 08:53 PM

Fess up, scatberg. You're a------------, no?

#57 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-04-17 08:55 PM

Such Abusive posts from Ira.

His next sockpuppet should be called, 'DonaldsDiaper'.

I mean, he does SO enjoy the Traitor in Chief -------- on his bank balance.

#58 | Posted by Corky at 2025-04-17 08:56 PM

"Fess up, scatberg. You're a------------, no?
#57 | Posted by reinheitsgebot"

Nope. Never had sex with child and never raped anyone.

Now, why can't you post the same?

#59 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-17 09:00 PM

"Such Abusive posts from Ira.
#58 | Posted by Corky"

Cry more -------. Read the posting or Rein or LegallyImRetarded - I just speak the truth. They write vile hatred and sexual perversion while not calling for someone to be killed or commit suicide. Yes, not a peep from you about that. Honest question - has Rein EVER written a on topic post? Ever?

#60 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-17 09:02 PM

Scatberg, how many times has your NAMBLAfied ass been booted from this site?

#61 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-04-17 09:04 PM

Nope. Never had sex with child and never raped anyone.

You lie as much as the orange pedo you adore.

#62 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-04-17 09:05 PM

"#62 | Posted by reinheitsgebot"

Still have not once heard you state that you are not a pedophile or a homosexual pedophile - why is that?

#63 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-17 09:11 PM

Because I'm neither, you child-raping -----.

#64 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-04-17 09:15 PM

Scatberg, how many times has your NAMBLAfied ass been booted from this site?

Why didn't scatberg answer this?

#65 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-04-17 09:17 PM

- has Rein EVER

He contributes threads and comments that are interesting and topically informative.

You piss a lot... and you voted for a traitor to America, so you really have no right to comment about what anyone else does.

Ride with a traitor, die with a traitor.

#66 | Posted by Corky at 2025-04-17 09:35 PM

"He contributes threads and comments that are interesting and topically informative.
#66 | Posted by Corky"

Link to a single example.

#67 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-17 09:40 PM

Scatberg the pedophile, how many times have you been booted from this site?

#68 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-04-17 09:42 PM

#69 Reserved for LeetheAgent

#69 | Posted by Corky at 2025-04-17 10:03 PM

"He contributes threads and comments that are interesting and topically informative.
#66 | Posted by Corky"

Like this:
"Scatberg the pedophile, how many times have you been booted from this site?
#68 | Posted by reinheitsgebot"

how about this:
"Fess up, scatberg. You're a------------, no?
#57 | Posted by reinheitsgebot"

That is all he posts when not engaging in his twisted sexual fantasies over Trump or kids.

#70 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-17 10:20 PM

Scatberg the pedophile, how many times have you been booted from this site?

Scatberg, why won't you answer the question?

#71 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-04-17 10:22 PM

#70

No one likes a whiner.

Especially a Traitor Cultist whiner.

#72 | Posted by Corky at 2025-04-17 10:27 PM

"#72 | Posted by Corky"

Who is whining about it? I just call him a homosexual pedophile, as he is, and you -------- rush to his defense. You do you.

#73 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-17 10:31 PM

Scatberg the pedophile poofter can't answer a simple question. LOL

#74 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-04-17 10:32 PM

#73

All you do is whine... oh, I take that back. You also lie a lot, so there's that. And no one here cares what someone who votes for traitors 'thinks' anyway.

- I just call him a homosexual pedophile,

Psychological projection is always entertaining! Especially when the perp doesn't even know he's doing it.

#75 | Posted by Corky at 2025-04-17 10:36 PM

"#75 | Posted by Corky"

There is no projection my my part. I am happily married to a biological woman. However, it is not possible to read his posts and come to any other conclusion except that he is a homosexual pedophile. But, let me ask you in another way - would you let Rein babysit your grandchildren unsupervised?

#76 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-17 10:48 PM

Sure... way before I would let you or Epstein's Wingman Donald do that.

#77 | Posted by Corky at 2025-04-17 10:50 PM

- I am happily married to a biological woman.

So, plastic?

#78 | Posted by Corky at 2025-04-17 10:51 PM

There is no projection my my part. I am happily married to a biological woman.

Scatberg, nobody believes a kid-diddling degenerate like yourself.

#79 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-04-17 10:51 PM

"Sure... way before I would let you or Epstein's Wingman Donald do that.
#77 | Posted by Corky"

You would let Rein babysit before Trump? LOL. You cannot even post the truth on something so simple.

#80 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-17 10:53 PM

NAMBLAberg, why won't you answer the question about how many times you've been booted from this site?

#81 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-04-17 10:54 PM

"So, plastic?
#78 | Posted by Corky"

Biological means living. Frankly, I wouldn't have needed to post that before you liberals starting saying chicks with dicks are women.

#82 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-17 10:54 PM

Since you are such a liar, like your Cult Leader, biological obviously means plastics.

#83 | Posted by Corky at 2025-04-17 10:56 PM

"biological obviously means plastics.
#83 | Posted by Corky"

Only in looney liberal land where a dude that dresses up like a woman is an actual woman.

#84 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-17 11:00 PM

Whatever you say is lie... even your name here has to changed almost monthly because you are a fraud and a liar... and a traitor, just like you cult leader.

#85 | Posted by Corky at 2025-04-17 11:04 PM

Corky,

You got beat over th3 head with this:

" Such Abusive posts from Ira.
#58 | Posted by Corky"

#60 | POSTED BY SCOTTS AT 2025-04-17 09:02 PM | FLAG: "

Maybe you ar3 just trolling at this point. If not, you really should ditch the shovel.

#86 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-04-17 11:31 PM

"#86 | Posted by BellRinger"

She should take your advice. Imagine trying to carry water for Rein or LegallyImRetarded. Not a good hand to play.

#87 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-17 11:38 PM

Leave it to Patricide Jeff to want to play catch the mayonnaise with a------------ like scatberg.

#88 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-04-17 11:39 PM

"#88 | Posted by reinheitsgebot"

You already proved my point above. No need to keep helping now.

#89 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-17 11:44 PM

" Scatberg is a pedophile and a necrophile.

#49 | POSTED BY REINHEITSGEBOT AT 2025-04-17 08:38 PM | REPLY"

You are constantly fantasizing about boning my deceased father. You bring it up every single time you reference me.

Accusing anyone else of being a necro is pure projection. Which also makes me more secure in my belief that you are a pedo (I've been saying this long before Scott's brought it up on this thread).

#90 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-04-17 11:45 PM

Patricide Jeff is a racist who supports child rapists like Trump and scatberg.

#91 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-04-17 11:48 PM

Scatberg and Patricide Jeff are venomous losers who called ivermectin a game changer.

#92 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-04-17 11:51 PM

Come up with some new material, loser.

#93 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-04-18 12:13 AM

Scatberg and Patricide Jeff are both losers who changed their usernames after their child-raping hero lost the 2020 election.

#94 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-04-18 12:17 AM

"Which also makes me more secure in my belief that you are a pedo (I've been saying this long before Scott's brought it up on this thread).
#90 | Posted by BellRinger"

It is pretty obvious that they guy is a pedo based on his posting. I just hope that he is an incel with pedo thoughts rather than actually harming kids.

#95 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-18 02:44 AM

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