What can these guys do? Can they wait it out for Trump to no longer be president and file a civil case?

I didn't read all the stories but the first one was in the country illegally which I assume means he can be legally deported but was the due process followed? I'm guessing no.....

I would truly like to see these guys get their day in court but I have no idea if that's possible.

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The employer is an enabler....that's why they deserve to be incarcerated? fair enough.....

Let's discuss who else is an enabler...which we'll define as someone who "profits" from them...

landlords
grocery stores and other retail businesses
car dealership sold them a car and an insurance agent sold them insurance....and a county issued them a tag
someone gave them a drivers license
someone took their payroll taxes
someone took their kids into a school
someone sold them health insurance
church took their donation

just sayin.........and maybe that's why nobody is too excited to single out the employer.....

crap...I forgot about a few others....

everyone who depends on that employer to get their job done.

Construction
agribiz
hospitality
etc..

all those customers, suppliers, lenders, etc......

I guess that pretty much makes everyone an enabler whether or not they "employed" them.

Maybe that's when you scream "what about the employer!!??" and all you hear is silence??

maybe that's why.

we're bitching about a "criminal" when we all benefit from the "crime".

-No one else is required to check the resident status of someone.

That's right. But my point is clearly that everybody is benefiting.

Maybe we should make a lot of those things I just mentioned illegal

Do you people believe it's immoral to give someone a job if they aren't here illegally?

Not illegal ... ... .immoral?

"The first is like a John hiring a prostitute. The second is like the prostitute buying a pack of cigarettes at the corner store.

Police set up stings to catch Johns and seize their car. Maybe the police should set up stings and seize businesses."

So you think that's a good law? People should go to jail for hiring a prostitute?

The law equals morality?

In parts of this country we're allowing people to lock up and or sue medical providers who provide medically necessary abortions.

You down with that as well?

Its the law!!

-THAT's the guy to find and deport, amirite???

Mostly for selling minimum limits ... ... ..

-THAT's the guy to find and deport, amirite???

Mostly for selling minimum limits ... ... ..

-Are you two trying to make an argument for how these people are members of the community and help provide support and services to their community?

Yes and point out the entire community benefits from this "crime"

Not just the employer.

I think the loudest screamers about the employers are really just trying to outshout the loudest screamers about the illegal immigrants.

-Seems like the law and the economy are at odds here.

Which is why it's mostly been an unenforced law

-Eberly, sounds like you are a business owner who is skirting the law

I'm not. what other wrong assumptions do you have?

-Where did I say the law equals morality?

it was a question.....reading comprehension is a fundamental sister.

WTF does car seizure have to do with anything?

My point which was made 100% clear was that when a community has illegal immigrants....everyone is benefiting. Literally everyone.

Are there costs? challenges? Yes....but as it's been proven, the pluses outweigh the minuses.

But this "It's the employer's fault!!" is just --------. Everyone is benefiting and enabling it. But we're acting like the only one who's done something wrong is the employer. Everyone else is free from any wrong doing.

100% --------. Everyone is guilty and everyone is benefiting.

And that's the reason why nobody really goes after the employers.

Understand, Diddler?

-Who is the ONLY person in the world who is responsible for giving anyone -- legal, illegal, or robot -- a job?

an employer

private, public(govt if you don't understand what public means), and non-profit.

Snoofy, you're pretending to be outraged so answer my question....do you think it's wrong to employ an illegal immigrant?

thousands of times you've seen posters insist we lock up employers.

perhaps you've said it as well.

Do you believe that? Literally the entire country has their hand out and accepting the benefits of illegal immigration. Nobody is giving the money back. Not a single person on that list.

Admit it....you've all been sucked into this whole hatefest on employers without realizing everyone is guilty of wrongdoing if the employer is really such a criminal.

And it's obvious how it was pulled off.

The employer is a "republican". Everyone else is a victim.

But that's not true....everyone is benefiting and willingly and knowingly enabling, supporting, profiting, all day and night.

But, again......setting aside your fake morality.....this is why employers keep getting away with it.

You can't answer the question. You can't.

I'll handle that then......You don't think it's wrong. Obviously you think it's wrong to send them to camps......and I agree with you.

But you don't think it's wrong to employ them.

You're just focused on the hypocrisy and injustice of applying consequences to the immigrant and leaving the employer alone.

And I'm trying to explain to you why the hypocrisy and injustice.......because we're all in on it. Including you.

-Find me any Republican official in 2025 and quote them on accepting the benefits of illegal immigration.

They're liars.

-Really, what exactly did I do to be "in on it."

They subsidize your tax liability because they pay especially unemployment which you seem to be receiving much of the time.

Every time you buy food, stay in a motel, live in something constructed, pretty much your whole day.

I sell insurance to the employers of illegal immigrants.

Man, am I really in on it ... ...