Thursday, September 18, 2025

Krugman: Exploiting Male Rage

Paul Krugman: Charlie Kirk's audience consisted to a large extent of resentful young white men who felt that modern society wasn't delivering the status that they deserved. -- Given MAGA's brazen attempts to exploit Kirk's murder to suppress freedom of expression, I'm sure someone will call what I just said hate speech.

Posted by retort at 03:08 PM | 48 COMMENTS | permalink

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Trump getting elected after bragging about sexual assault made people feel they had to do something against sexual assault.

So they wore pink ----- hats and came up with the MEETOO movement.

But that movement overreached and became - men are evil and should be considered guilty until proven innocent, and they should step aside and let women lead.

If you're a 18 year old male voting for the first time, who are you going to vote for - the side that tells your time has passed and you're a rapist unless you can prove otherwise? Or the side that ISNT saying that?

I said at the time that meetoo was going to drive dumb young men to vote republican. I hate being right all the time.

#1 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-09-18 03:33 PM

Given MAGA's brazen attempts to exploit Kirk's murder to suppress freedom of expression, I'm sure someone will call what I just said hate speech.

POSTED BY RETORT AT

That shalt not take the Orange God's name in vain.

This is really the new standard, isn't it?

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2025-09-18 03:39 PM

The story of humanity... angry... horny men... every story ever told.

Men need to get over themselves.

#3 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2025-09-18 04:06 PM

"resentful young white men"

I'm sure there are some in Kirk's following that accurately describes.

But do you know who it describes perfectly?

the guy who shot him. A drop out

Let's not misunderstand this statement from Krugman to suggest Kirk recruited Skin heads.

He spent a lot of time on college campuses talking to the brighter minds of their age group.

#4 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-18 04:07 PM

I said at the time that meetoo was going to drive dumb young men to vote [for an admitted sexual predator].
#1 | Posted by SpeakSoftly

Fixed that for you!

#5 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2025-09-18 04:09 PM

Exploiting ------- RETARDED IMBECILE rage.

BRING IT ------- ON, --------.

SCORCHED EARTH, NO SURVIVORS

#6 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-09-18 04:11 PM

But do you know who it describes perfectly?
the guy who shot him.

Without ONE IOTA of proof, BEVERLY THE LAME parrots all the -------- talking points.

YOU'RE A ------- CLOWN.

#7 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-09-18 04:12 PM

#4 | Posted by eberly

Kirk was the dropout. The shooter was a third-year student at a technical college. And Kirk did have "debates" with college students on their campuses. Except he also deceptively edited the videos of said debates to suit his grifting agenda.

#8 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2025-09-18 04:13 PM

Kirk was a promoter of The Great Replacement Conspiracy; that immigrants were let in to replace white men... which is why ICE now rounds people up off the streets based on their skin color.

And why Trumpists are so happy to have him as a Martyr to their cause.

#9 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-18 04:18 PM

"Except he also deceptively edited the videos of said debates to suit his grifting agenda."

Kirk was good at taking a small minority of the more extreme lefties and capturing their comments in videos and used them to convince his followers those people are the face of their opposition and pretend there are no moderate sane voices in the democratic party.

It keeps people on the right exactly where they want them. Dismissive, distant, uninformed, and wholly untrusting of the left.

#10 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-18 04:26 PM

Men need to get over themselves.

#3 | Posted by RightisTrite

That attitude is the reason trump is president. Keep it going if you want to never regain power.

#11 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-09-18 04:53 PM

" Kirk was the dropout. The shooter was a third-year student at a technical college. And Kirk did have "debates" with college students on their campuses. Except he also deceptively edited the videos of said debates to suit his grifting agenda.

#8 | POSTED BY RSTYBEACH11 AT 2025-09-18 04:13 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

That's not what I observed

#12 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-18 07:57 PM

"That's not what I observed"

Feel free to put down the water and post his unedited debates.

#13 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-09-18 08:08 PM

That attitude is the reason trump is president. Keep it going if you want to never regain power.

#11 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-09-18 04:53 PM | Reply | Flag:BOOHOO

Nonsense the men that are like that... is because everyone lies to them about their actual potential and they don't have a realistic assessment about themselves and what they can actually accomplish... Because of the unrealistic self-expectation and the fact that no amount of effort of any kind is going to change the fact they are mediocre... and always will be mediocre... currently that is happening on a national level... so all this foot stomping whining...

Furthermore... whatever power men think they get by whatever means is always temporary... you know Hitler and his band of happy Nazis lasted only 13 years... we are 9 years into MAGA... Who knows... I may live long enough to see the end of it...

You go on and on all ominous as if we haven't been down similar roads before... with the same threat... if we don't do what the men demand... then they will blow it all up... Sometimes they do... sometimes they don't... but they always lose the attitude in the end.

More than half the world's population currently doesn't give a rat's @$$ about the American masculinity crisis...

#14 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2025-09-18 08:13 PM

The left knows how execrable they are and project their sense of self on the right.

#15 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-09-18 10:30 PM

The left knows how execrable they are

That's rich coming from the loser who smeared ---- all over the halls of congress because the demented orange pedo lost an election.

#16 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-09-18 10:43 PM

@#15 ... The left knows how execrable they are ...

Do they? What evidence yer got of that?

Or is your current alias just projecting?

#17 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-09-18 10:50 PM

More guys need to start smoking weed and yerking off and it shows.

Chill Out Losers.

You can't all be instagram influencers.

The world still needs ditch diggers.

#18 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-18 11:05 PM

" Feel free to put down the water and post his unedited debates.

#13 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2025-09-18 08:08 PM | FLAG: "

I didn't follow him while he was alive. I've watched a ton of YouTube clips since he was murdered. So far, I haven't seen anythin* even remotely approaching all of the nasty characterizations of him.

#19 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-18 11:41 PM

" So far, I haven't seen anythin* even remotely approaching all of the nasty characterizations of him."

Yeah, because HE EDITED THEM.

Exactly what was accused.

#20 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-09-18 11:43 PM

Only documented case of Capital feces desicration was when Nadler ---- himself.

#21 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-09-18 11:47 PM

What I've seen so far are several 5-8 minute interactions with various students. Edited? Doubt it.

#22 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-18 11:48 PM

" What I've seen so far are several 5-8 minute interactions with various students. Edited? Doubt it."

Of course you "doubt it".

To carry water, you have to pretend folks don't edit what goes on their YouTube channel.

#23 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-09-18 11:50 PM

I'm sure Jordan Klepper doesn't edit his interviews either.

#24 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-09-18 11:53 PM

Lack of evidence is evidence? Literally can't argue with that reasoning. Everything confirms your strongly held but totally unsupported with facts worldview. I hope you never believe you can fly.

#25 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-09-19 12:07 AM

Visiturd lies as much as the rotting------------ he adores.

www.nydailynews.com

#26 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-09-19 12:46 AM

Unamed source, can you find any references in the show trials?

#27 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-09-19 09:12 AM

MAGAts are ------------ cop killers.

#28 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-09-19 09:18 AM

Name a time or era in history when men haven't been angry about something.

There is a reason that globally, 81% of homicide deaths are men. This is not a new situation caused by (fill in your favorite stupid excuse) societal hoopty doo.

Men are by nature overly emotional and irrational.

It's just what you are.

... and why you can't ever under any circumstance be a woman.

#29 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2025-09-19 11:08 AM

"For today, I want to focus on the ways MAGA " including the late Charlie Kirk " have been exploiting men's problems for political gain. While these problems are real, MAGA's explanations are fake. And because MAGA's explanations are fake, it can offer no real solutions. It only offers an ever-escalating story of victimization and outrage."

Rofl. The author just described liberals 100% when it comes to illegal immigration, trans laws, etc. Dems use every ideological pain point in our country for political gain and offer no real solutions, just victimizing and outrage.

Now, whether or not you agree with that (because you are a con) or disagree (because you are a lib) doesn't matter. What you should really be gaining from this is that both sides have ideologies/opinions the others don't but both sides are valid in their concerns. The ONLY thing causing any problems is that both sides are so indoctrinated by their political religion that they can't see any other possibilities.

#30 | Posted by humtake at 2025-09-19 11:56 AM

What you should really be gaining from this is that both sides have ideologies/opinions the others don't but both sides are valid in their concerns. The ONLY thing causing any problems is that both sides are so indoctrinated by their political religion that they can't see any other possibilities.

#30 | Posted by humtake at 2025-09-19 11:56 AM | Reply | Flag: PPPFFFTTTTTT

blah blah blah

Nope... in this instance... you're wrong... and your party is wrong... Trumpanzee is leaving office in disgrace again.

#31 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2025-09-19 12:09 PM

You go on and on all ominous as if we haven't been down similar roads before... with the same threat... if we don't do what the men demand... then they will blow it all up... Sometimes they do... sometimes they don't... but they always lose the attitude in the end.

More than half the world's population currently doesn't give a rat's @$$ about the American masculinity crisis...

#14 | Posted by RightisTrite

And more than half the country won't vote for you if you're telling them they're evil and their time has passed. DUH.

#32 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-09-19 02:04 PM

Kirk was good at taking a small minority of the more extreme lefties and capturing their comments in videos and used them to convince his followers those people are the face of their opposition and pretend there are no moderate sane voices in the democratic party.

That's the right wing info sphere in a nutshell.

That's why whenever I address Boaz's stupidity, I spell it LibRulZ.

Because it's a caricature whose sole purpose is to inflame people like him and help them angry and fearful.

#33 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-19 03:49 PM

That's not what I observed

#12 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

You have demonstrated beyond a doubt that you're not very good and observing things.

#34 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-19 03:53 PM

Religion started it

#35 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-09-19 05:01 PM

Religion started what, Civilization?

#36 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-09-19 05:28 PM

Religion started what, Civilization?

#36 | Posted by visitor_

You've got that confused with science. The science of starting fires, specifically.

#37 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-09-19 05:46 PM

actually it was agriculture that started civilization...

And more than half the country won't vote for you if you're telling them they're evil and their time has passed. DUH.

#32 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-09-19 02:04 PM | Reply | Flag:EYE ROLL

No one is calling them evil or telling them their time has passed. Maybe that is what you hear. No one told them they had "a time". They are discovering they are mediocre like 99.9999% of the people out there... and they won't amount to much... and there is nothing to be done about it... boo hoo

#38 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2025-09-19 06:07 PM

No one is calling them evil or telling them their time has passed. Maybe that is what you hear. No one told them they had "a time". They are discovering they are mediocre like 99.9999% of the people out there... and they won't amount to much... and there is nothing to be done about it... boo hoo

#38 | Posted by RightisTrite

Dems HAVE had that message, even back before meetoo. Remember "it's HER turn!"?

I watched Dem moron strategist donna brazille say women have to clean up the mess that men made. As if sarah palin and kristy noem don't exist.

Dems ran al franken out of power for taking a goofy picture calling it sexual harrassment.

Dems set the policy that if a college male is accused of rape, he is expelled before he even gets to defend himself.

Dems overall message has been "girls rule boys drool" for years and yet they just keep losing.

#39 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-09-19 07:29 PM

Careful or they'll start calling you a MAGA incel.

#40 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-09-19 08:16 PM

You're the expert, pal.

#41 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-09-19 08:37 PM

But you ---- one goat!
~visitard_

#42 | Posted by horstngraben at 2025-09-19 08:44 PM

Dems overall message has been "girls rule boys drool" for years and yet they just keep losing.

#39 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-09-19 07:29 PM | Reply | Flag:PPPFFFTTTT

You're talking to a woman who remembers when a woman couldn't enter an official building wearing pants and it was next to impossible to get a home loan from a bank if you were a woman of childbearing age...

Men invented... let me repeat... MEN INVENTED the birth control pill... to free women up so they could have sex whenever they wanted... sans responsibility.

Women still get paid less for the same work.

Men have deeper pockets in their pants and their clothes are cheaper and better made with fewer expectations put on them for appearance.

Women are expected to stay young and pretty forever... men are not.

The world has changed... there are some men who need to catch up is all that is wrong... and OGs need to stop telling them that yesterday was better because blah blah... maybe even tell them to lose some weight and stop with all the foot stomping.

Most men need to accept their own mediocrity...

#43 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2025-09-20 08:52 AM

Furthermore... whatever power men think they get by whatever means is always temporary... you know Hitler and his band of happy Nazis lasted only 13 years... we are 9 years into MAGA... Who knows... I may live long enough to see the end of it...
You go on and on all ominous as if we haven't been down similar roads before... with the same threat... if we don't do what the men demand... then they will blow it all up... Sometimes they do... sometimes they don't... but they always lose the attitude in the end.

Yes, but I don't find that comforting or a cause for celebration as you seem to:

No authoritarian regime in modern history that consolidated power through democratic processes has ever been toppled by protests and the courts alone. Not Mugabe. Not Pern. Not Hitler. Not Modi. Not Orbn. Not Putin. Not Erdoan. Or any of the others. Whether they rose a century ago and sparked world wars or still reign today under the mask of "elections" and "freedom," the story has only ever ended two ways: either they were brought to their knees, or they ravaged their people until collapsing under the weight of their own decay. And let me spare you any hope for the latter: once regimes consolidate power, they last an average of twenty years"longer still for some of the ones alive and well today.

americanmanifesto.news

#44 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-20 09:26 AM

White male rage.

#45 | Posted by fresno500 at 2025-09-20 11:06 AM

Religion started what, Civilization?

#36 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

You're crediting paganism as the bedrock of civilization?

#46 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-20 02:48 PM

When Trump says he loves the poorly educated, he's talking about Visitor_.

#47 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-20 02:50 PM

it was agriculture that started civilization.

Yep.

#48 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-20 02:51 PM

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