Sunday, October 05, 2025

U.S. Military Attacked Boat Off Venezuela, Killing Four Men, Hegseth Says

The U.S. military killed four men aboard a boat in international waters near Venezuela, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth announced on Friday, in the first such strike since the Trump administration told Congress that the United States was engaged in a formal "armed conflict" with Latin American cartels.

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There are lingering questions about what happened with that strike. It is not clear why so many people were aboard, raising suspicions that some may have been migrants rather than crew members. People briefed on a lengthier video of the operation than the one the administration released say that the boat had turned around before the U.S. military struck, apparently spooked by an aircraft, and that it was hit repeatedly before it sank.

This is a ------- war crime.

This is ------- murder

A speedboat, which is made of fiberglass was hit REPEATEDLY before it sank

This is called murder under ANY situation.

A fiberglass speedboat hit by munitions is dead in the water. meaning these murder victims were clinging to wreckage.

This is unconscionable!

Every ------- ------- in the whole chain of command should be court martialed

We LITERALLY prosecuted nazi submariners for doing this exact thing!

Look up U-boat commander, Heinz-Wilhelm Eck and his sinking of the Greek ship Peleus.

Anyone who defends this should just go ---- themselves, hard.

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NAZIS

#1 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-10-05 04:57 PM

In an America with a moral backbone, Rand Paul would have posted #1.

#2 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-05 04:59 PM

Trump is testing the water before starting up in Ernest.

Expect more Murders ay Sea.

Followed by a Bombing Campaign on Venezuela.

War.

#3 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-10-05 05:07 PM

He's trying to start a war with Venezuela, who can never be forgiven for nationalizing their oil industry and booting US companies out.

#4 | Posted by morris at 2025-10-05 05:45 PM

Don't get self righteous. Been happening since day one.

#5 | Posted by fresno500 at 2025-10-05 06:21 PM

"Venezuela, who can never be forgiven for nationalizing their oil industry and booting US companies out."

You might want to get checked out for myopic tunnel vision. There are reasons for there being so many Venezuelan refugees all over the Americas other than "USA bad!"

#6 | Posted by sentinel at 2025-10-05 07:13 PM

FWIW: drudge.com

MURDER IS MURDER.

#7 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-10-05 09:47 PM

"Mr. Hegseth accused the four dead men of having been smuggling narcotics, without offering evidence."

The assumption being he had no evidence.

#8 | Posted by eberly at 2025-10-05 10:00 PM

The assumption being he had no evidence.

Maybe these boats are just cartel drones with nothing in them so Lewzer has something to shoot at while they route the drugs some other way?

#9 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-10-05 10:11 PM


He's trying to start a war with Venezuela,
#4 | POSTED BY MORRIS

This is false, he's trying to prevent China from slurping up the Venezuela oil.

This is all a negotiation.

#10 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-10-05 10:24 PM

-He's trying to start a war with Venezuela,

We can take em.

#11 | Posted by eberly at 2025-10-05 10:29 PM

This is all a negotiation.

They used to call it "Gunboat Diplomacy".

#12 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-10-05 10:38 PM

The war Trump's Military is preparing for is with China... lots more military contracts with corporations to scam off of.

1Nut will have to choose which side to be turned down on.

#13 | Posted by Corky at 2025-10-05 10:41 PM

It's not drugs... it's oil. Venezuela needs to tell us to feck off.

#14 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2025-10-06 05:31 AM

Attempting to provoke a war with Venezuela in order to steal its oil by blowing up boats and slaughtering people in international waters ... with zero credible evidence in support of unverified blah-blah from Trump and his lying, criminalistic stooges.

They aren't even trying to stitch together a credible cover story, accustomed, as they are, to dealing with mouth-breathing MAGAts.

#15 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-10-06 05:42 AM

#15: i.pinimg.com

#16 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-10-06 06:14 AM

The assumption being he had no evidence.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.

#17 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-10-06 08:22 AM

This is all (killing boaters) negotiation.

#10 | Posted by oneironaut

Occam's Razor says it's simple insanity.

This is disappointing. I'd thought you'd wormed yourself up Trump's butt where you might see his brain by now.

#18 | Posted by Zed at 2025-10-06 08:33 AM

Was there no Horse Paste on the cruise ship?

#19 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-06 10:08 AM

Interesting.
There has been ZERO evidence presented so far these boats were smuggling drugs. Far better would be to capture the boats, and if they dump drugs overboard, film them doing it. Then put them on trial or demand Venezuela do so.

But with rushing to the execution phase of the no-trial, things look suspiciously along the lines of a "Marco Polo Bridge," manufacturing a crisis in order to distract the gullible USA voters by a "needed intervention" with the military.

There is also the matter of killing foreign nationals who are obviously not enemy combatants, which (looking) why YES, is a war crime, and against the Geneva convention.

#20 | Posted by e1g1 at 2025-10-06 06:04 PM

One day, the chickens will come home to roost.

#21 | Posted by jz4117 at 2025-10-07 03:49 AM

Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro has asked Pope Leo XIV to help maintain peace in Venezuela: abcnews.go.com

Earlier this year Madonna pleaded to the Pontiff to intervene in Gaza to stop the Israeli genocide of Palestinians in the Gaza Strip.

Historically, entreaties to the Vatican to maintain peace and goodwill in the world have not been so successful: warfarehistorynetwork.com

#22 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-10-07 04:17 AM

The NYC Bar Association condemns Dummkopf Trumpf's XJK of the Venezuelans in the Caribbean Sea: www.nycbar.org

#23 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-10-07 04:26 AM

Extrajudicial killings of suspects is murder...International Criminal Court says.

#24 | Posted by Hughmass at 2025-10-07 07:52 AM

So far the ICC has not yet begun investigating Dummkopf Trumpf for his litany of blasphemies that are far too lengthy to list here: factually.co

But things may change....

#25 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-10-07 07:58 AM

We can take em.

#11 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Just because you CAN do something doesn't mean you SHOULD.

#26 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-10-07 12:19 PM

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