" That's the thing about income taxes. They are basically in many ways a voluntary tax."

Riiiiight. Try NOT volunteering next time around, and see what happens.

Wait ... your answer is don't earn ANY income???

Have you met the "no one is starving; they can dig through the trash" guy?

" You must earn the income in the tax region for it to be taxable."

Not true.

If you're an American citizen, you're liable for American income tax no matter where in the world that money is earned.

"Not State income tax"

That depends on your permanent residence and the number of days out of the country.

Any other issues you'd like to get wrong?

" The thread is NYC. The city can only tax its residents."

Feel free to explain what qualifies as a "resident" under NYS tax law.

"he's a communist."

When did Mamdani suggest the end of private property?

Or (and go with me on this one), why are you using words without knowing the definition?

" It surprises me that you really seem to like Mamdani."

I've never said anything of the sort.

All I posted was if anyone is calling him a communist, they should AT LEAST understand the definitional tenets.

Would YOU call Mamdani a communist?

" No one in their right mind will take a loss"

Odd.

Trumpers are arguing exactly the opposite when it comes to the tariffs.

Could both your faces meet, and come up with one consistent answer???

"Why don't you support Mamdani?"

I've never said that either.

That said, there is no way in heaven, hell, or anywhere in between I'd vote for Cuomo, Adams, or Sliwa.

Scum, scum, and scum. In that order.

" In a truly literal sense, no. As a pejorative to rule his supporters ... "

Thanks for admitting how cheaply you'll lie.

" The thread is NYC. The city can only tax its residents"

Not even remotely true.

NYC taxes anyone who works in NYC, and for that matter, everyone who enters and purchases anything non-edible. You're paying taxes on everything from hailing a cab to buying tickets for a Broadway show.

Even if you live in Des Moines.

Why TF would you make a claim without knowing ANY of the salient facts?!?

" Is Mamdani a democratic socialist? Why yes, yes he is, by his own words. "No. I'm a democratic socialist""

IOW, decidedly NOT a communist.

I'll ask you as well: why TF do you make a claim without understanding what TF you're talking about?!?

"A distinction only in time."

Nonsense.

" I understand what I was talking about just fine"

Except you clearly didn't. You didn't mention non-residents who come into The City for work. Your central statement gave away your ignorance.

And you still haven't looked up NYS's (and therefore NYC's) definition of "resident".

" Socialism is the path from capitalism to communism."

So ... again ... decidedly NOT communism.

" I brought up non residents residing in a different state"

And you were WRONG.

New Jersey residents who come into The City for work pay NYS and NYC taxes.

Maybe quit while you're behind. As usual, you don't know what TF you're talking about.

" ... because I construed your comment as applying to EVERYONE, including people who don't come into the city."

That's because YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE BASIC TENETS, as you've proven in multiple posts.

" You and I were speaking toward different scenarios."

Because YOU HAVE NO CLUE. You didn't even understand THE CONCEPT. Nobody even SUGGESTED taxing Iowans.

But if an Iowan makes money in NYC, they're taxed by NYC and NYS.

Then, their home state MUST CREDIT THEM the amount of taxes they would have charged on that same money, capping at what you paid to NY, or your home-state liability, whichever is less.

" Read that as many times as you need to."

What a riot.

Read #24 as many times as you need to, Dumfuq. It has NO exceptions listed. You simply tried to move the goalposts, after looking so clueless.

" I've clarified more than once."

So have I.

#24 was one of your regular stupid stunts. The statement itself exposed your cluelessness.

This isn't a case of the two of us talking at cross purposes; it's a case of you being dead wrong, and me having to correct you multiple times.

Grow TF up, and take the L.

" I've clarified more than once. "

So have I.

What parts didn't you understand?

" Sweden, Germany, Norway, the UK, Denmark, Canada, Finland, Australia, and New Zealand"

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this a list of the happiest countries on earth?

" Ask some of your friends how interested they are in a 25% VAT"

What a coincidence.

Next year, ask some of your friends how many pay 25% of their disposable income for health insurance.

" Which is what would likely happen if you massively increased the marginal tax rate on high income earners."

Why are you pretending others wouldn't cash in on the newly available profits? Are you really pretending the same needs suddenly wouldn't be met?!?

Ultimately, that's the same income ... just from different filers.

" and the dems set that supplemental govt monies to sunset this year. TRUMP did not do that. "

Correct.

Just like Trump set tax giveaways in Trump Code 1.0 to sunset.

Except Trump extended them. Just like he could've extended the subsidies.

Make no mistake: Trump let the subsidies expire so he could extend his tax giveaways. Billionaire tax cuts over Americans' health.

This is probably a good time to remind folks: under Trump Code 2.0, a waitress making $25K a year will save about twenty bucks a week.

Meanwhile, the average billionaire will save over a million dollars a week.

" (Proof) that the Affordable Care Act is an abysmal failure."

What nonsense.

The ACA effectively ended when the mandate was removed.

Republicans basically did NOTHING to fix it (for fear of being primaried), and everything to undermine it.

Compare that to the Republican screw-up when it came to farmers in Trump 2.0: Instead of getting a break on 20% of gross profits, the wording left out the word "profits".

That meant a farmer with $500,000 of income and $400,000 of expenses, instead of subtracting 20% from the 100K profit and paying tax on the $80K, could subtract 20% from the $500K and pay NO income taxes.

Dems voted to fix it immediately.

"Why would Republicans touch it?"

Because good governance is supposed to make things better, not find problems to exacerbate.

"Why would Republicans touch it?"

Because good governance is supposed to make things better, not find problems to exacerbate.

" California effectively has the mandate and it has had no effect on premiums."

Sure it has; that's in the equation. With no mandate, you'd lose amounts of the young and the healthy, and premiums would have to rise.

The mandate is central; every time Republicans have sat down to address coverage, they've concluded a mandate is needed for any chance of success.

" people like Danforth would blame R's for doing something."

I've always believed in keeping politics out of healthcare, whenever possible.

The folks you support said they would repeal and replace, remember? And remember when Trump was asked about it at the debate, and said he had a concept of a plan? Those two things were six years apart.

When, exactly, are Republicans going to fulfill their campaign promise? FFS, they haven't even had a single public hearing or committee meeting.

They don't even have a concept of a plan.

Just another Trump lie.

" The whole point of ObamaCare was to increase the middle mans profits"

Not true at all. Here's what actually happened: in the decade before Obama care, inflation was up 31%, and medical inflation was up 131%. That's four times the rate of inflation. Trustees for health plans everywhere we're freaking out; I know: I was a trustee for a health plan and we were freaking out.

Not only was the inflation trajectory unsustainable, but it looked like there was nothing that could've bend the curve downward. In addition, the baby boomers were all on the precipice of being thrown into high risk pools, since just about everyone had a pre-existing condition. The year before O'Care, married friends of ours were tossed into a HRP because she'd just survived breast cancer. They were paying $5000 a month, at a time when Cobra was ~$600.

As regulars here know, I've been against Obamacare since the beginning. But I always said I would give the ACA props if it bent the inflation trajectory downward.

It did.