Tuesday, October 28, 2025

Confederate General Statue Toppled in 2020 Restored in DC

The Interior Department said restoring the statue complies with President Donald Trump's directives.

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A statue of Confederate general Albert Pike, which had been pulled down during the Black Lives Matter movement, has been put back up in Washington, D.C.'s Judiciary Square. n.pr/49pygiD

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-- NPR (@npr.org) Oct 27, 2025 at 5:35 PM

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Blow the ------ up

#1 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-10-28 08:54 AM

The statues to Trump will begin going up soon.

If Trump has anything to say about it.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2025-10-28 09:21 AM

Families are going hungry and losing their homes and this is what the administration is spending its time on.

#3 | Posted by qcp at 2025-10-28 01:13 PM

Someone should stop these Democrats from praising the traitors of the Civil War.

#4 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2025-10-28 02:23 PM

They say you should love your country. Does that apply when your country hates you?

#5 | Posted by fresno500 at 2025-10-28 02:37 PM

After Ireland became independent, statues of their previous British enemies were all taken down without a fuss. You won't find a statue of any member of the Third Reich in Germany today. Now, look at the US.

The Confederate States of America (CSA) Army killed 364,511 US Soldiers, Sailors, and Marines. This is more than the Kaiser's army (116,516 KIA), the North Korean Army and CHICOMs (36,574 KIA), and the North Vietnamese Army (NVA) and Viet Cong guerrilla (58,220 KIA) combined.

Put another way, the Confederates killed more US servicemembers than the Axis Powers during WWII (291,557 GIs KIS).


#6 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-10-28 02:42 PM

There are in fact memorial statues, in Germany, of individuals that served in the Wehrmacht during WW2.

He fought in the Mexican-American war for the US. Pike also successfully advocated for Native American tribes in Federal court. Pike was a racist and hated Catholics in his early life. Late in life he mellowed out and became a staunch friend and ally of "Negro Masonry".

#7 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-10-28 03:13 PM

"Confederate General"
vs
"statues, in Germany, of individuals"

Individuals, a general, same difference right?

#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-28 03:15 PM

Citation: de Hoyos, Arturo (1996) "On the Origins of the Prince Hall Scottish Rite Rituals", Heredom: The Transaction of the Scottish Rite Research Society vol. 5 Washington, D.C.: Scottish Rite Research Society, pp. 52"53

#9 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-10-28 03:15 PM

Individuals, a general, same difference right?

#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-28 03:15 PM | Reply | Flag:

It's not a statue of his as a general.

A memorial to Pike was erected in 1901 in the Judiciary Square neighborhood of Washington, D.C. The statue portrayed him as a private citizen and Freemason. He was the only former Confederate military officer with an outdoor statue in Washington, D.C. In 1992, the D.C. Council petitioned the federal government to remove it. In 2017, protesters circled the monument after a Unite the Right rally, calling for it to be torn down, a sentiment echoed by the D.C. Council.[34] In July 2019, Delegate Eleanor Holmes Norton introduced a bill to remove the statue but still preserve its history.[35] On June 19, 2020, protestors tore down the statue and set it ablaze, in connection with the George Floyd protests because of Pike's association with the Confederacy and of his alleged association with the Ku Klux Klan.[36]

#10 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-10-28 03:16 PM

It is in no way racist to erect statues to the nation that was formed explicitly to preserve racial slavery.
--Boaz

#11 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-28 03:17 PM

"It's not a statue of his as a general."

I'm guessing that must matter, somehow...

"There are in fact memorial statues, in Germany, of individuals that served in the Wehrmacht during WW2."

German individuals who grew up to be Nazi generals?

#12 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-28 03:21 PM

He fought in the Mexican-American war for the US.
#7 | Posted by sitzkrieg

Oh I see.
So he fought to preserve slavery more than once.
Mighty White of you to defend him!

#13 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-28 03:27 PM

All levels of Nazi, but the statue isn't them as a Nazi, just as this statue isn't him as a Confederate general. Does 4 years of war define a persons entire history? Only if you can't critically think.

One of my favorite subjects, historiography. If you never took a proper high level course for history majors teaching the science of it, I can fill you in with a quick paraphrase: You can't please everybody, not donors, not activists, not politicians.

While people are busy fighting the culture war over statues activists on either side have done zero research on, the end result has been playing out for awhile. Institutions like colleges end up using the indirect approach to social warfare over commemoration, name it "Building 5". No history, no conflict, no institutional threat.

#14 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-10-28 03:30 PM

"Does 4 years of war define a persons entire history? Only if you can't critically think."

Does twenty minutes of rape define a person's character?

No, twenty minutes isn't enough to judge a man. Four years isn't either.
Signed,
Sitzkrieg

#15 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-28 03:37 PM

"You can't please everybody, not donors, not activists, not politicians."

So who is pleased by the statue?
Or is your point it's there to troll everyone...

#16 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-28 03:39 PM

Equivocation, moving goal posts, straw man, poisoning the well, moral reductionism, guilt by association.

You're not fit for life in a liberal democracy where people have complex biographies. You need reductionist simplism and are incapable of any good faith discussion.

Now back to me not posting for weeks, this place is as dumb as a den of Trumpers and it makes me feel stupid for coming here and reading this nonsense.

#17 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-10-28 03:42 PM

So who is pleased by the statue?

#16 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-28 03:39 PM | Reply | Flag:

Freemasons. It's a Freemason statue. They still exist. I can introduce you to the black Freemasons in Houston, so you can have your first black friend if you don't piss them off, they are all cowboys.

#18 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-10-28 03:43 PM

I am tickled how you zoomed waaay out from the specifics of one statue, seizing the opportunity to take us to a place where it's unfair to judge Brock Turner for raping a woman -- because the rape lasted less than four years.

You, sir, are a credit to your race!

#19 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-28 03:50 PM

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