Thursday, December 18, 2025

New York Times' Stunning Trump-Epstein Investigation

The New York Times published its most comprehensive investigation yet into President Donald Trump's relationship with Jeffrey Epstein on Thursday morning ...

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President Trump has tried to minimize his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. Documents and interviews that The New York Times conducted with former Epstein employees, victims of his abuse and others who crossed paths with the two men reveal an intense and complicated relationship. trib.al/KUYR6U5

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-- The New York Times (@nytimes.com) Dec 18, 2025 at 5:14 PM

Every new Trump Epstein revelation is somehow both shocking and not a surprise at all.

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Tina Davis, who modeled for Ford, said she was told to "dress sexy" for a 1994 Mar-a-Lago party when she was 14. Her mother recalled that waiters kept offering her daughter champagne, and that Marla Maples pulled her aside with a warning: "Whatever you do, do not let her around any of these men, and especially my husband."

14 is a bit long in the tooth for pedo 47.

#1 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-12-18 12:15 PM

House Dems release new Epstein photos showing 'Lolita' quotes written on female body

www.rawstory.com

How many photos were taken at Mara Pedo?

#2 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-12-18 12:53 PM

"While the Times found no evidence implicating Trump in Epstein's sex trafficking crimes, "

Wait, I thought he was all over the Island.
Only thing coming from the files is --- shot Clinton. LoL

#3 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-12-18 07:48 PM

Wait, I thought he was all over the Island.
Only thing coming from the files is --- shot Clinton. LoL

#3 | Posted by fishpaw

Right because bad guys only do bad guy things on that one island. Off the island they're all good guys.

"Multiple models described being bused to Mar-a-Lago parties in the mid-to-late 1990s, often facilitated by Jason Binn, co-founder of Ocean Drive magazine. The events were open-bar, no one checked IDs, and young women " some as young as 14 " were given champagne. Tina Davis, who modeled for Ford, said she was told to "dress sexy" for a 1994 Mar-a-Lago party when she was 14."

#4 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-12-18 08:07 PM

@#3 ... Wait, I thought he was all over the Island. ...

Pres Trump (and others) may have been ~all over the island~ but not yet implicated with what has been released so far.

But the question remains, why is Pres Trump's DoJ so reluctant to release the Epstein files? (as directed by Congress?)

My view is ... I do not care who may be caught up in the Epstein sex-trafficking affair.

All those who are involved in the sex trafficking and sex exploits should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

For me, it is telling the victims of Epstein that Justice prevails over political boundaries.





#5 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-12-18 08:11 PM

Trump is the dog who, 'didn't bark' to the authorities about Epstein's girls, according to Epstein.

#6 | Posted by Corky at 2025-12-18 08:45 PM

In other words, Trump was fully exonerated by the New York Times

#7 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-12-18 10:16 PM

@#7 ... In other words, Trump was fully exonerated by the New York Times ...

Two questions ...

1) fully exonerated of what?

2) if he has been fully exonerated, as your current alias seems to claim, what actions was he exonerated of? Asked differently, if your current alias seems to know he was fully exonerated, then surely it must also know what he was exonerated of.

thx.


#8 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-12-18 11:08 PM

"an intense and complicated relationship"

^
that's code for, they sucked each other's dicks.

#9 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-18 11:11 PM

3 | POSTED BY FISHPAW

Pedo defending piece of ----.

#10 | Posted by jpw at 2025-12-19 02:06 AM

I repeat my #5 comment, with the emphasis intact ...

But the question remains, why is Pres Trump's DoJ so reluctant to release the Epstein files? (as directed by Congress?)

My view is ... I do not care who may be caught up in the Epstein sex-trafficking affair.

All those who are involved in the sex trafficking and sex exploits should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

For me, it is telling the victims of Epstein that Justice prevails over political boundaries.

#11 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-12-19 02:22 AM

Chuck Mangione - Chase The Clouds Away (1975)
www.youtube.com

A fav instrumental tune for me ...

YMMV ...

#12 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-12-19 02:33 AM

why is Pres Trump's DoJ so reluctant to release the Epstein files?

My guess is Lewzer told them not to.

#13 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-12-19 02:33 AM

I think when all of this is said and done, the most shocking thing for me will be the pain of watching so many seemingly decent Republican Party members toe the line, kiss the ring, of the clearly pedophile adjacent Trump.

#14 | Posted by Hughmass at 2025-12-19 07:36 AM

I think when all of this is said and done, the most shocking thing for me will be the pain of watching so many seemingly decent Republican Party members toe the line, kiss the ring, of the clearly pedophile adjacent Trump.

#14 | Posted by Hughmass

Most of them simply collapsed; deflated like balloons at the approach of Trump. I believe this is because none of them were real people in the sense of having character, values, or beliefs. Trump could never have gotten as far as he did without their moral cowardice and apparently complete abdication of intellectual life.

The implication is that these people were always been conning us; always and forever. Their vapidity is who they sincerely are. Their aggravating, destructive shallowness is who they always have been.

These sorts of people aren't going away. The rest of us who do maintain some pride in ourselves as Americans need to be a lot more level-headed and discerning when choosing people to have power.

Donald Trump is going to die soon. He never was the Anti-Christ, although a passable imitation. The real Anti-Christ is still out there someplace, waiting for us to make the same mistakes we made with Trump. And that man will be young, fit, educated, competent, and obviously much more dangerous than our imaginations are yet ready to comprehend.

#15 | Posted by Zed at 2025-12-19 08:30 AM

You got nothing.

#16 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-12-19 12:49 PM

The demented------------------- plied 14 year old girls with alcohol.

#17 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-12-19 01:32 PM

In other words, Trump was fully exonerated by the New York Times

#7 | Posted by visitor_

Right. Just like the mueller investigation "totally exonerated" him. And the Jan 6th committee.

#18 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-12-19 02:01 PM

You got nothing.

#16 | Posted by visitor_

I'm sure you'd call it NOTHING if obama had run teenage beauty pageants, bragged about sneaking into the dressing room to see them naked, bragged about sexually assaulting women, cheated on his wives with porn stars, met his newest whore wife through epstein, and partied with epstein for decades, hired an 2 attorney generals with ties to epstein, had epstein killed in prison, and then fought like hell to keep all epstein files hidden, right?

You'd be calling that NOTHING?

#19 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-12-19 02:04 PM

It appears that by this point it is MAGAts who suffer TDS (and not the rest of us) in their blind fanatical desperation to deny what is obvious to any clear thinking person. Donald Trump is a pedophile.

#20 | Posted by moder8 at 2025-12-19 02:19 PM

Did he rape underage girls? Yes.
Did he traffic them? No evidence of that was uncovered other than having them at his parties.

Visitor_ and Fishpaw: "See! He did nothing wrong!"

#21 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-12-19 02:19 PM

You got nothing.

#16 | Posted by visitor_

Sure, thing pedo protector.

#22 | Posted by jpw at 2025-12-19 02:40 PM

Considering the timing of when and how Trump said some of his critics could be executed for sedition, it seems he was talking to w aider audience than he led us to believe.

#23 | Posted by path at 2025-12-19 05:36 PM

Corrected post for 23:
Considering the timing of when and how Trump said some of his critics could be executed for sedition, it seems he was talking to a wider audience than he led us to believe.

#24 | Posted by path at 2025-12-19 05:39 PM

" Sure, thing pedo protector.

#22 | POSTED BY JPW AT 2025-12-19 02:40 PM | FLAG: | "

He's just going by what NYT reported.

#25 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-12-19 08:04 PM

Did he rape underage girls? Yes.

Prove it.

#26 | Posted by boaz at 2025-12-20 06:59 AM

Dear Boaz:
That's what some people are saying, Boaz. Don't know if he raped underage girls or not. But that's what some say. Now, you know that saying I invented? "Where there's stench, there's sh*te." Mummy Wiles said, pure genius. So, some people say. Good enough for me? Sure, why not? Good enough for you. But of course! Thank you for your attention!!!!!
~ Old Senescent

#27 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-12-20 07:07 AM

Prove it.

#26 | Posted by boaz

Trump and Bondi are in the very process of proving it.

#28 | Posted by Zed at 2025-12-20 08:05 AM

Donald Trump has placed himself in the position of proving that he's not a sexual pervert.

Thus far, he's not doing so well.

#29 | Posted by Zed at 2025-12-20 08:42 AM

Did he rape underage girls? Yes.

Prove it.

#26 | POSTED BY BOAZ

It doesn't matter. You'd stay a die hard pedo protector no matter what.

You still are one despite everything we've learned about how deep Trump was into Epstein's organization or circle.

It's pathetic that you're basically saying yeah, ok, but he didn't rape children.'

Does your wife know you're such a creepy piece of s^%#.

#30 | Posted by jpw at 2025-12-20 08:54 AM

It doesn't matter.

Oh, so there's nothing anyone can say, even if there is no evidence? He's just guilty, right? No collaboration. No victims saying Trump molesting them. Just people like you wanting it to be so.

So is the state of sad progressives. The man did nothing. That's what the evidence is saying.

#31 | Posted by boaz at 2025-12-20 09:08 AM

Does your wife know you're such a creepy piece of s^%#.

Does your wife know you frequent ----------?

#32 | Posted by boaz at 2025-12-20 09:24 AM

even if there is no evidence?

31 | Posted by boaz

All Trump has to do is stop breaking the law he so recently signed and give us the Files.

If there's nothing there, he'll be fine.

But there is obviously something there, and it is obviously a wowser.

#33 | Posted by Zed at 2025-12-20 09:40 AM

The man did nothing. That's what the evidence is saying.

#31 | Posted by boaz

Jesus.

That's what you think?

Trump's behavior screams guilty as hell.

#34 | Posted by Zed at 2025-12-20 09:41 AM

All Trump has to do is stop breaking the law he so recently signed and give us the Files.

Us? Who the ---- is "us"?

#35 | Posted by boaz at 2025-12-20 09:52 AM

Trump's behavior screams guilty as hell.

Trump wasn't almost naked in a hot tub. Oh yea, that was Clinton. Is that suspicious behavior?

What would you be saying if Trump was in a picture in a hot tub with a woman?

I haven't heard you say anything about Clinton.

#36 | Posted by boaz at 2025-12-20 09:53 AM

Can someone explain to me why you progressives on this blog are not pissed about the Muslim/Somali fraud on our government in MN?

#37 | Posted by boaz at 2025-12-20 09:57 AM

Who the ---- is "us"?

#35 | Posted by boaz

Everyone except "you"?

#38 | Posted by Zed at 2025-12-20 10:50 AM

Trump wasn't almost naked in a hot tub.

#36 | Posted by boaz

I've been naked in a hot tub.

Probably a photo around here someplace...

#39 | Posted by Zed at 2025-12-20 10:51 AM

What would you be saying if Trump was in a picture in a hot tub with a woman?

Posted by boaz

How old is that "woman"?

#40 | Posted by Zed at 2025-12-20 10:52 AM

I've been naked in a hot tub with my mom.

#39 | Posted by Zed at 2025-12-20 10:51 AM

#41 | Posted by fortfisher at 2025-12-20 11:07 AM

Can someone explain to me why you progressives on this blog are not pissed about the Muslim/Somali fraud on our government in MN?

A fraud case where some 65-odd people are being prosecuted for committing crimes has exactly what to do with the Epstein files?

#42 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-12-20 11:07 AM

Can someone explain to me why you progressives on this blog are not pissed about the Muslim/Somali fraud on our government in MN?
#37 | Posted by boaz

To put things in perspective:
There's a hundred times more expensive fraud happening in the White House.
A fraud that is also causing structural damage to the nation which will persist for decades.

What ICE is doing is bringing down GDP by about one percent.
Can you explain why you aren't pissed about that?

#43 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-20 11:09 AM

What happened in Minnesota has a price tag of $250M. ICE has a budget of $75B. ICE costs three hundred times more than the MN food stamp fraud.

If just one percent of ICE spending is fraud, waste, and abuse, that's three times the cost of the entire Minnesota fraud.

And if you don't think sending people to camps for weeks on end instead of simply putting them on the next flight out isn't fraud, waste, and abuse, you're too ignorant to have this conversation.

#44 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-20 11:14 AM

Can someone explain to me why you progressives on this blog are not pissed about the Muslim/Somali fraud on our government in MN?

Why are YOU not pissed about Trumpy pardoning fraudsters and drug smugglers? Why are you not pissed about the destruction of our democratic institutions?

The fraudsters he pardoned owed Americans millions of dollars in restitution and were completely let off the hook.

In addition to clearing prison sentences for convicted fraudsters Trumpy's criminally negligent actions have erased millions of dollars in restitution payments to the victims.

That particular fraud case you refer to pales in comparison to Trumpy's lies and massive frauds perpetrated on the American People.

#45 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-12-20 11:20 AM

#45 Classic "whataboutism".

#46 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-12-20 11:29 AM

#45 37 Classic "whataboutism".

#47 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-12-20 11:37 AM

Re 46

Classic MAGA Maroon nonsensical response.

#48 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-12-20 11:44 AM

Re 46

In a thread about the Epstein Files THIS post is a "whataboutism":

Can someone explain to me why you progressives on this blog are not pissed about the Muslim/Somali fraud on our government in MN?
#37 | Posted by boaz

My post 45 was just a response to a question.

Your post was just the usual nonsensical maga gotcha garbage.

#49 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-12-20 11:49 AM

#49,

And yet, we are no closer to an answer to my #37.

I would post it on a thread about the Somalis frauding our government, but there isn't one posted by the progressives on this site.

I was just asking why.

#50 | Posted by boaz at 2025-12-20 12:04 PM

And yet, we are no closer to an answer to my #37.

Oh you got an answer. Two even. Very similar.

You just don't like the answers you got. They just don't align with your hateful ideology.

#51 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-12-20 12:07 PM

Obama's DOJ had full access to all of the "Epstein Files"
Biden's Autopen DOJ had full access to all of the "Epstein Files"
Deep State Operatives in the CIA/NSA/FBI had full access to all of the "Epstein Files"
Democrats in the House have had full access to all of the "Epstein Files"
NYT had full access to all the "Epstein Files"

Nothing has incriminating to Trump has been found.

Release to files? to who? Trump's enemies have have full access to over a decade.

#52 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-12-20 12:09 PM

The 300 lb orange sack of---------- is all over the the Trumpstein files and Lolita Express flight logs.

#53 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-12-20 12:12 PM

Tina Davis, who worked with Ford Models in the mid-1990s, told the outlet that her Ford booker told her to attend a Mar-a-Lago party in late 1994. She was 14 at the time, according to the outlet.
Her mother, Sandra Coleman, accompanied Davis to the event, the outlet reported. Coleman told the outlet that she ran into Maples during a trip to the bathroom. Coleman said that Maples told her, "Whatever you do, do not let her around any of these men, and especially my husband. Protect her," The New York Times reported.

Pedo 47 is a rapist from his cankles to his wig.

#54 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-12-20 12:17 PM

Nothing has incriminating to Trump has been found.
#52 | POSTED BY VISITOR

The translation program has run amok again.

#55 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-12-20 12:26 PM

Release to files? to who? Trump's enemies have have full access to over a decade.

POSTED BY VISITOR_

Another day another vistard lie.

A day without a vistard lie is as rare as a blue unicorn.

#56 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-12-20 12:27 PM

The very least thing we know for sure that Trump did, because we have the email from Epstein to Maxwell saying so... is that Trump knew what was going on with the girls, but he didn't report it to authorities.

This is AOK with Visitor.

#57 | Posted by Corky at 2025-12-20 12:33 PM

#57,

Another Corky lie...

is that Trump knew what was going on with the girls, but he didn't report it to authorities

You can stop staying that lie, Corky..

It is widely believed by some sources and alleged in certain reports and emails that Donald Trump was the individual who reported Jeffrey Epstein to the authorities in Palm Beach, Florida, in 2004, which initiated the legal investigations into Epstein's sexual abuse allegations

Michael Wolff's Account: According to author Michael Wolff, Trump himself reported Epstein to the police in 2004, an episode that remained in the shadows for years.

You can stop with that talking point, Corky...

#58 | Posted by boaz at 2025-12-20 01:03 PM

- believed by some sources and alleged in certain reports

aka 'evidence' by Trump Grovelers, lol.

#59 | Posted by Corky at 2025-12-20 01:09 PM

what was date if trump did not bark email?

"The email from Jeffrey Epstein to Ghislaine Maxwell, where he referred to Donald Trump as "that dog that hasn't barked," was sent on April 2, 2011.

In the email, Epstein wrote: "I want you to realize that that dog that hasn't barked is trump.. [Victim] spent hours at my house with him ,, he has never once been mentioned". Maxwell replied, "I have been thinking about that"

www.google.com

#60 | Posted by Corky at 2025-12-20 01:12 PM

Fair or not, you are judged by the company you keep. Especially if it is over many decades. And especially if that company is internationally notorious for both pedophilia and perversion.

#61 | Posted by moder8 at 2025-12-20 01:14 PM

I can agree with that, counselor..

#62 | Posted by boaz at 2025-12-20 01:16 PM

To a certain degree...

#63 | Posted by boaz at 2025-12-20 01:17 PM

Michael Wolff's Account: According to author Michael Wolff, Trump himself reported Epstein to the police in 2004, an episode that remained in the shadows for years.

#58 | Posted by boaz

They were pals who hung around each others for years before that. Very close friends who saw each other several times a month.

If true, Trump only reported Epstein after Epstein outbid him for a Palm Beach property.

Same year that was reported to have happened

#64 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2025-12-20 01:22 PM

Michael Wolff's Account: According to author Michael Wolff, Trump himself reported Epstein to the police in 2004, an episode that remained in the shadows for years.

#58 | Posted by boaz

Do you regularly have former friends to thanksgiving dinner a decade after ratting them out to the police for pedo crimes?

#65 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-12-20 01:35 PM

#58 | Posted by boaz

So explain why Epstein and Maxwell's 2011 email referred to Trump as "that dog who hasn't barked."

It's easy to see why you were passed over for promotion and forced to retire.

From the House Oversight Committee

In private correspondence with Ghislaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein wrote in 2011 that Donald Trump, "spent hours at my house" with a victim of sex trafficking, referring to Trump as "dog that hasn't barked."

oversightdemocrats.house.gov

#66 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2025-12-20 01:36 PM

Michael Wolff's Account: According to author Michael Wolff, Trump himself reported Epstein to the police in 2004, an episode that remained in the shadows for years.
#58 | Posted by boaz

How long had Trump and Epstein been diddling girls by then?
At least a decade, Boaz.

#67 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-20 01:57 PM

Is Boaz actually beginning to entertain the notion that all the allegations against Trump are true?

I figured Boaz simply didn't care one way or the other.

Owning the libs and stacking the Supreme Court is worth grooming and turning out any number of fifteen year old white girls.

If I'm wrong about that, I'll be very surprised.

#68 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-20 02:32 PM

So is the state of sad progressives. The man did nothing. That's what the evidence is saying.

#31 | Posted by boaz

The evidence RELEASED BY TRUMP says trump did nothing.

"good enough for me!"
-drooling paint sniffers

#69 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-12-20 04:51 PM

Nothing has incriminating to Trump has been found.

Release to files? to who? Trump's enemies have have full access to over a decade.

#52 | Posted by visitor_

Partying with epstein for decades IS INCRIMINATING.

If it was obama who did it you'd be calling for a hanging.

#70 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-12-20 04:53 PM

The man did nothing. That's what the evidence is saying.

#31 | Posted by boaz

You really are a stupid SOB.

The emails alone paint a picture of a man who knew if now was directly involved in sex trafficking.

But your stupid a&& says "show me he raped little girls or else nothing happened."

You're pathetic.

#71 | Posted by jpw at 2025-12-20 05:39 PM

A fraud case where some 65-odd people are being prosecuted for committing crimes has exactly what to do with the Epstein files?

#42 | Posted by REDIAL

Nothing. That stupid piece of s*&^ is so desperate for a "win," he needs to make sure the guy he's been duped by for the last 10+ years isn't the giant piece of conman s*&^ we knew he was before he ran for POTUS.

#72 | Posted by jpw at 2025-12-20 05:41 PM

@#69 ... The evidence RELEASED BY TRUMP says trump did nothing. ...

Looks that way. Quelle surprise.

Pres Trump's DoJ now seems to be in violation of Federal law, a bill passed by all-but-one members of Congress and a bill that Pres Trump signed into law.


#73 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-12-20 06:06 PM

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