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Biden's approval rating has been low and I don't understand why. Like objectively, why are his ratings like 8 to 10% lower than Obama's or Shitler's at this point in his presidency. Why is that? I mean, objectively, his presidency has not been a disaster. I am looking for answers that would mean exceptional problems, because his approval rating seems exceptionally low. We aren't in a war, the economy is booming (much better than the rest of the western world), unemployment is low, his office acts with dignity. I am not looking for partisan asshats to speak nonsense, like the nation is descending into chaos because of immigrants or such nonsense. I am looking for tangible reality-based reasons for this historically bad approval rating. The way I see it are the following: 1. hyperpartisanship getting worse 2. his age 3. Gaza war The biggest negatives over the past couple of years-his failure with the student loan forgiveness and abortion rights I blame on Republicans.


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The flipside of the coin is even more difficult to parse, how shitler retains such high approval. the man is literally running on establishing a dictatorship. How is this acceptable to more than a fringe of Americans is beyond me. I suppose that simply comes down to partisanship-republicans will support the devil himself.


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Trump had 47% of the 2020 vote and refused to admit he lost, so safe to say Biden's approval rating was never going to get much above 53%, best case scenario, because Trump's base can't admit that they backed a liar. So Biden must be an election thief.

As for the rest of the hate:
He's old, looks befuddled, people are angry about their grocery bills and inflation, people blame him for Palestinians murdering 1,000 Jews at Iran/Putin's command so the Palestinians could whine about their own civilians being hurt as Israel defended itself, Why isn't he helping Ukraine???!!!, Why isn't he abandoning Ukraine???!!!.

That's all I got for now.

Jill Stein 2024!

#1 | Posted by censored at 2024-03-19 07:57 PM | Reply

When people look around at the economy, they see what hits their wallet/purse and how much is left for discretionary spending. Not the three or four months down the road where the latest economic figures finally show up at their level. What they see is everything costs more, sometimes considerably more, such as a vehicle, while their pay/wages have not increased to keep up.

Then they see the major corporations are seeming to do great at profit levels while the products they produce cost more or there is less for the same price. They realize they aren't getting any of that profit but instead are being gouged to support that profit.

It leaves average Joe thinking he's being lied to and he can't trust the media, the corporations, political parties, nor government, for the straight dope.

#2 | Posted by BBQ at 2024-03-19 08:24 PM | Reply

BBQ, true, but....... that argument in one form or another has been around my entire life. I don't buy it that that is causing the exceptionally low approval. Maybe the approval is lagging behind the indicators, the economy is doing better, I just don't see anything EXCEPTIONALLY bad. I figure I can assume many people don't know about his accomplishments, they tend to get lost in the shuffle, but compare this to the same time in previous presidencies:

------------ was starting, he had nearly started a war with Iran and had been impeached-significantly higher approval rating
W-In 2 wars with thousands of dead, Katrina just happened-higher approval rating.

IDK, maybe it is just in comparison to -------, which I simply cannot wrap my head around.

Biden is losing to THAT GUY?!>

------- is insane, promising a dictatorship, threatening to throw his political rivals in prison, promising a nationwide abortion ban, threatening Medicare and social security, 10% tariff on all imports, threatening to round up literally millions of people, yet he is leading!

I just don't get it.

------- is so bad that things that would doom another candidate aren't even news any more.

Are you aware that ------- wants to be treated like Kim Jung Un?


Caught on hot mic " Trump: "[Kim Jung Un] speaks and his people sit-up in attention. I want my people to do the same"

It is INSANE that a candidate for president says something like that and it isn't even news.

#3 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-03-19 08:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

I'd be more than happy to explain, but you most likely will not like my answers.

1) Inflation has already been touched on and until wages increase to a level where people have affordability like they did under Trump; Biden will continue to suffer the consequences of he and fellow Democrats printing money as they did in early 2021.

2) Everyone still remembers the bitched Afghanistan withdrawal. While staunch liberals and conservatives will always look at their parties actions through rose-tinted glasses the general public does not.

3) I'd get into Palestine, but this really only applies to a small segment of the rainbow coalition of the Democratic Party and most people do not care about it as it doesn't truly impact their day to day (same goes with Ukraine)

4) Yes illegal immigration is impacting the general public, and I don't care how this is interpreted, but whites along with minorities who rely upon the social safety net we provide in this country do very much so understand scarcity. If there are more people chasing less goods it means they are impacted at far greater levels.

5) Biden and the Democrat Party's corruption. The first deal I f with the whole 10% business dealings with Hunter. I don't care if you think it's true or not; but the genera public seems to think so. As well, the Democrat Party's lawfare towards Trump isn't playing well in the public eye.

These are my observations as to why his numbers are in the ------- and will cost him the election.

#4 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2024-03-19 11:13 PM | Reply

Also, makeup. It makes a huge difference.

Sure it makes Trump look like an orange clown, but an orange clown that is a decade or two younger than his real age.

People are stupid (see e.g., Green Party voters who repeatedly throw their vote away even after seeing the disastrous results in 2000 and 2016 after they helped Dubbya and Hair Furor secure the presidency) and many of them vote on gut, rather than logic. Apparently many voters think an old clown who rants like a maniac, but looks younger, is a better choice than an old man who makes the right decisions but looks his age. [shrug]

And the trans are coming for our babies!

#5 | Posted by censored at 2024-03-20 07:29 AM | Reply

Democrats can't message worth a damn.

#6 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-03-20 10:19 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

"(Trump)wants to be treated like Kim Jung Un"

Well, he'd certainly kill his relatives if that meant Coronation.

#7 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-03-20 11:33 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

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#8 | Posted by Corky at 2024-03-20 11:59 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2


There are logical and truthful replies to every issue BW has cited. And they've all been addressed on this site at some point. The trouble is, all of these issues are more complicated than the average American seems to have the capacity to understand. And people like BW already know that. So whether they're true or false, and instead of doing actual in-depth reporting, BW and the corporate media will keep parroting the simple talking points until they're ingrained in the thought process of every simple mind in this nation.

#9 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2024-03-20 12:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Democrats can't message worth a damn.


Nailed it!

Republican use their PR capital as effectively as Hamas does.

And Republicans have gotten really good at mimicking and utilizing Russian propaganda techniques.

This just proves that Propaganda Werks!

#10 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-03-20 12:38 PM | Reply

I think bw covers the issues comprehensively but I don't see how that results in the exceptional low approval. Most of those things are typical concerns. I mean take inflation. Yes it is was a problem but Biden got on top of it and the cause as fairly obvious -Covid. Biden can't be blamed for Covid and the rebound has been fairly exceptional. We are not looking at a stagflation like the late 70 s. Afghanistan? Pshaw that is an old non issue exiting was going to be rough one way or another Immigration? Maybe. I don't see it's effects but I might be insulated from it. But Biden got bipartisan support for a bill to address it and ------- vocally and publicly scuttled it. Seems to me it should be a republican problem now. Corruption? That is a joke. That is Republican propaganda only. And compared to -------'s corruption? Puhhllleeaasseee law fare? That is just ba

#11 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-03-20 12:52 PM | Reply

I'm not sure about messaging either. That has always been an unsolvable dilemma given out wide tent and dems inherent sense of honesty and fair play. So Biden is no worse than Obama on that issue. I think it is something broken in our country. Maybe a result of social media forming reality bubbles. We do seem to be living in multiple realities

#12 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-03-20 12:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#5 | POSTED BY CENSORED AT 2024-03-20 07:29 AM | REPLY | FLAG

That is neither stupidity, nor "disastrous."

It's telling the DNC to wake up and start serving their constituents again, because not all of us will continue to settle for the barely lesser of two evils, and they are not entitled to our votes - they need to earn them.

Why is Biden so unpopular?

Well above all else - it's not the economy, "it's the inflation stupid."

Second, it's hard to enthuse an electorate for a guy that's basically Trump lite - especially with the aforementioned inflation.

I mean - sexual predator? It's not helpful when your own VP previously said they believe your accusers.

Racist? Biden was against busing, mixed race schools, and remains responsible for more black men in prison than anywhere else on the planet. Anyone familiar with the Constitution will know - that's just legalized modern slavery.

Classified documents? What Trump did was worse - what Biden did was still idiotic.

Lies? They're both pathological self-aggrandizing liars.

Immigration? Trump is actually better. Sorry, I hearken back to the Bill Clinton take that we don't need undocumented people driving down wages on an already struggling working class, and I'm an economic hard leftist of the type that says if you can't pay a fair living wage for a job - the type that would attract US workers to it - you don't deserve to stay in business. Remember when that used to be a common leftist take?

And on and on. They are in every way comparable. It always comes out to a matter of degree. The definition of "lesser evil." Add on a personal take that Biden is just really incompetent - either the right thing, wrong time, or just half-assing what really needs done. Obama was right about him. Infrastructure? Great idea. Maybe don't pass a bill costing over a trillion dollars when we're in the throws of horrible inflation. Student loan forgiveness? A bandaid on a bullet wound. Maybe nationalize colleges and universities, offering higher education the same way we do k-12 and open to everyone instead of rewarding predatory lenders with instant payouts and letting education costs continue to spiral out of control multiple times the rate of inflation. EV mandate? I'll be the first to scream we have to get serious about climate - but maybe we should have worried about the power grid that can't even handle everyone turning on their air conditioners at once in numerous states and the charging stations first. Israel? Great job on that "come to Jesus" with Netanyahu lol. Really fixed the whole genocide issue.

Messaging is an issue of course - but some of it isn't a lack of getting the message out - it's sending the wrong message. Cumulative wage gains are not even close to catching up to cumulative inflation. May not be for years, and wage gains are even faltering now. While the lower classes face mounting credit card debt, record vehicle repossessions, unaffordable housing, Biden totes the stock market and gets angry that the news is not reporting how good it is. The news is. And it's causing backlash. Maybe less "the economy is the best in the world" (for the one percent) and more "I feel your pain."

Don't take this wrong. I probably will vote Biden. And on virtually all but one of those issues, he is better than Trump. That's not where you should be setting the bar. The only difference enough to possibly warrant it is J6. But you want to know why Biden is so unpopular? Because no one voted for him, and most likely no one ever will. They just voted against Trump. And that's not highly motivating.

Biden should have kept to his word about only being a transitional president.

#13 | Posted by zeropointnrg at 2024-03-20 02:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"barely lesser of two evils"

Barely lesser, get serious.

On one side you have Obamacare.
On the other side you have the party that voted 64 times to repeal Obamacare but once they owned the Senate they couldn't pull the trigger.

Gross incompetence isn't the barely lesser version of competence.

#14 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-03-20 02:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Biden should have kept to his word about only being a transitional president."

If you want to transition back to Trump, you know what to do.

#15 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-03-20 02:29 PM | Reply

If you want to transition back to Trump, you know what to do.

#15 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2024-03-20 02:29 PM | FLAG:

I do not. Which was the point of that statement. A moldy ham sandwich could beat Trump.

Biden, I'm not so sure about. And that's kind of the problem. All I answered was to the point of the original question - why is Biden so unpopular? Not "is Trump better than Biden." Obviously not - but all this should be being taken into account. And the left has never been sheep to line up for Dear Leader like the republicans. It takes a little more than that.

#16 | Posted by zeropointnrg at 2024-03-20 02:43 PM | Reply

Thing is, not many of any conscious and consequence want the job; it's dangerous, doesn't pay well unless you are a criminal, and you and your family are going to be lied about, sued, and pilloried in public until you don't recognize yourself.

#17 | Posted by Corky at 2024-03-20 03:09 PM | Reply

" Democrats can't message worth a damn.


Democrats don't have a messaging problem. They have a policy problem coupled with the fact that Biden looks like and sometimes sounds like a walking, decomposing corpse.

#18 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-03-20 03:51 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Democrats have a HUGE messaging problem.

Every time republicans have been in charge lately they have done NOTHING.

#19 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-03-20 03:53 PM | Reply

Yes, the Republican borrow and spend is much better than Dems tax and spend.

Except for the interest, of course.

But since most of the benefits go to their donors, that's the deal.

#20 | Posted by Corky at 2024-03-20 03:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Maybe it's time stop separating messaging from governing as though they are 2 mutually exclusive functions.

Messaging is a function of governing. It's like saying "I'm a great baseball player.....but I can't hit very well".

#21 | Posted by eberly at 2024-03-20 03:57 PM | Reply

That is neither stupidity, nor "disastrous." [...] #13 | Posted by zeropointnrg

I guess that depends on how you see one million dead Iraqis and 30-50 years of Talibaptist SCOTUS rule.

#22 | Posted by censored at 2024-03-20 07:59 PM | Reply

@#21 ... Maybe it's time stop separating messaging from governing as though they are 2 mutually exclusive functions. ...

I agree.

But I also ask, now please explain that to those who vote.

Oh wait, that requires messaging. ...

#23 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-03-20 08:23 PM | Reply

I guess that depends on how you see one million dead Iraqis and 30-50 years of Talibaptist SCOTUS rule.

#22 | POSTED BY CENSORED AT 2024-03-20 07:59 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

I'd say touch - but Obama didn't exactly help with the US imperialism body count.

I got nothing on the SCOTUS part lol

#24 | Posted by zeropointnrg at 2024-03-20 08:50 PM | Reply

Touche. Ugh. Stupid autocorrect. Close enough

#25 | Posted by zeropointnrg at 2024-03-20 08:54 PM | Reply

Oh wait, that requires messaging. ...

When the truth doesn't work, messaging is the antidote.

#26 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-03-20 09:15 PM | Reply

@#26 ... When the truth doesn't work, messaging is the antidote. ...

As fmr Pres Trump shows quite well in his campaign.

Good to see your current alias acknowledge that.

#27 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-03-20 09:21 PM | Reply


So your alias agrees messaging is lying.

#28 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-03-20 09:29 PM | Reply

@#28 ... So your alias agrees messaging is lying. ...

I specifically said that fmr Pres Trump's messaging is lying.

#29 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-03-20 09:44 PM | Reply

Biden looks like and sometimes sounds like a walking, decomposing corpse.

He could be an actual corpse and I'd still vote for him over that pile of orange --- that you worship.

#30 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-03-21 07:05 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

> Biden looks like and sometimes sounds like a walking, decomposing corpse.

He could be an actual corpse and I'd still vote for him over that pile of orange --- that you worship. #30 | Posted by Nixon

No kidding. Biden would be better than the alternative, even if he was sitting in a chair only able to communicate by ringing a bell.

The GOP has hitched their wagon to a ranting, pathological-liar, traitorous, feces-flinging maniac.

#31 | Posted by censored at 2024-03-21 07:41 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

The GOP is #u(king garbage for supporting That #u(king Guy

#32 | Posted by hamburglar at 2024-03-21 07:58 AM | Reply

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