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State Farm will discontinue coverage for 72,000 houses and apartments in California starting this summer, the insurance giant said this week, nine months after announcing it would not issue new home policies in the state.

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Inside America's Homeowners Insurance Crisis (October 2023)
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... Inflation and more frequent natural disasters are pushing up the cost of home insurance in the United States, adding another burden for homeowners at a time of record mortgage rates and high house prices.

Across the country, Americans are noticing a spike in homeownership insurance premiums, with states seeing a rise in natural disasters, such as California, Florida and South Carolina, feeling the pinch the most.

More than 60 percent of Americans say that their home insurance premiums got more expensive over the last year, according to a Harris poll survey via NerdWallet from July. These soaring costs are discouraging potential buyers from purchasing homes, the survey showed.

Elevated inflation has made the cost of building more expensive, and unpredictable weather changes are costing insurance companies more, which, in turn, are forced to hike their rates.

"In the first half of 2023, homeowners and commercial property claims costs increased by 36% and 30% respectively [year-on-year], driven up by inflation and natural catastrophe losses," according to the insurance giant Swiss Re.
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Homeowners loss was highest in over a decade, the company said. "Partly as a result, insurers are restricting business in catastrophe-prone markets," Swiss Re added.

Swiss Re points out that in California, one of the world's largest economies, insurance companies are pulling back, limiting the options available for homeowners. Worryingly, homeowners are also choosing to go without insurance: only about 88 percent are insured today, compared with up to 95 percent a few years ago, Swiss Re said.

"There is an estimated 20% less availability for insurance options than a year ago," the company said. ...


#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-03-24 11:19 AM | Reply

"adding another burden for homeowners at a time of record mortgage rates..."

Huh?

Record mortgage rates?!? Did Humpty Dumpty author this piece???

#2 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-03-24 11:22 AM | Reply

My HO insurance went up so much this year that my mortgage company recalculated escrow in Feb after they had just done it in Jan. I expect in September when property taxes hit that they will do the same both went up 40% or more this year. When they recalculate next I will be paying more in escrow than I am in actual mortgage payment.

The property tax I can't really complain about since it's a pretty fair assessment given what has happened to the market since the last assessment in Jan 2020 but the insurance, I've never had a claim, my house is 0 risk of flood and we are far enough inland that hurricanes are pretty low risk as well. On the plus side the people in the state who keep building closer and closer to the beach can still get insurance in this state.

#3 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2024-03-24 11:48 AM | Reply

@#2

Yeah, I would have gone with "recently high" instead of "record."

The first mortgage I had on my house was 12%.

#4 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-03-24 11:48 AM | Reply

On the plus side the people in the state who keep building closer and closer to the beach can still get insurance in this state.

That may well be why yours is going up?

#5 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-03-24 12:05 PM | Reply

"There is an estimated 20% less availability for insurance options than a year ago"

Thanks, Capitalism!

#6 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-03-24 12:13 PM | Reply

#5

Sorry the sarcasm wasn't fully evident. Yes that and increased building costs are the two major factors. Let me tell you how super glad I am to support rich people's quest to be closer to the ocean.

#7 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2024-03-24 12:15 PM | Reply

Sorry the sarcasm wasn't fully evident.

My bad. It's early.

#8 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-03-24 12:17 PM | Reply

My issue is that the Ins companies keep inflating the value of my home. I own my house and land outright so it's not required. The problem is that I ask them to insure for the dollar figure I want to cover and they refuse. I'm staying one more year to see what's behind the curtain and I'll make a decision on what to do, but I won't be paying premiums like this considering I've had mortgage insurance well over 30 years and never filed a claim.

#9 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-03-24 03:26 PM | Reply

Why do you have mortgage insurance on a house you own outright?

What do you pay mortgage on?

#10 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-03-24 03:38 PM | Reply

They need to be regulated that if you don't offer homeowners insurance in that state, you don't get to do ANY business in the state. Problem solved.

#11 | Posted by a_monson at 2024-03-24 04:47 PM | Reply

Why do you have mortgage insurance on a house you own outright?

What do you pay mortgage on?

#10 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-03-24 03:38 PM | Reply | Flag

I don't have "mortgage" insurance. I simply keep insurance on my home. It's not required and I can ditch it anytime I like.

#12 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-03-24 10:22 PM | Reply

My last sentence in #9 was about homes I've had in the past with a loan on them - in all, I've never filed a homeowners claim.

#13 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-03-24 10:25 PM | Reply

@#12 ... I don't have "mortgage" insurance. ...

Yeah, I also apparently misread your comment that said... ... considering I've had mortgage insurance well over 30 years ...

It is not evident from that comment that those 30 years were in the past, and not now.

Thanks for the clarification.

#14 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-03-24 10:27 PM | Reply

Yes that and increased building costs are the two major factors. Let me tell you how super glad I am to support rich people's quest to be closer to the ocean.

#7 | POSTED BY TAOWARRIOR

Having never lived somewhere where water front is highly desirable, how is it that your insurance goes up for someone else's coverage?

Why don't those living/building close to the coast have high enough premiums to cover their risk?

#15 | Posted by jpw at 2024-03-25 04:11 PM | Reply

#15
They do. I currently own two homes, less than 5 miles apart. One is waterfront and boasts homeowners insurance premiums triple the premiums of the other home which is inland. Don't get me started about flood insurance or wind. I'm not complaining, just wanting to point out that the premiums are in fact, relative to the risk.

#16 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-03-25 10:37 PM | Reply

Also, when it comes to fema flood insurance, the max is $250,000. Which means if a million dollar home is swept of the foundation or otherwise totaled, the maximum recovery is $250,000. You won't find too many waterfront homes that can be replaced for $250k

#17 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-03-25 10:42 PM | Reply

Please correct me if I'm wrong but There's no way insurance premiums have kept up with home prices.

Insurance companies can raise rates or say, screw this I'm going home.

Stories like this are a glimpse into the structural imbalances in the economy, from various angles.

#18 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-03-25 11:33 PM | Reply

Please correct me if I'm wrong but There's no way insurance premiums have kept up with home prices.
- snoofy

Kind of incorrect, the price of the home is typically 70% location. Not the physical home.

Now the problem has been after a catastrophe, the costs of rebuilding the home are astronomical due to lack of resources both materials and labor after the catastrophe of so many homes being damaged.

Today in silicon valley it's about $500 a sqr foot to rebuild.

Many insurers were stating they would defer rebuilding and house you somewhere while waiting up to 3yrs. This was for a discounted rate.

#19 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-03-25 11:44 PM | Reply

"the price of the home is typically 70% location."

That varies widely across the nation. Jackson, Mississippi is not the same as Jackson Hole.

#20 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-03-26 12:51 AM | Reply

Why don't those living/building close to the coast have high enough premiums to cover their risk?

The entire state is the risk pool so they do pay more but some of their risk is transferred to me since I'm low risk. Just like everyone in the state pays a bit more for health insurance because I have MS.

#21 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2024-03-26 06:41 PM | Reply

The real question here is, which 72000 homes. Did they identify the homes most likely to get destroyed in fires and floods, or did the algorithm pick 72000 homeowners likely to blow up their own homes making meth.

#22 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-03-26 06:48 PM | Reply

No, it's not just like health insurance. Legislation prevents insurance companies from raising your health insurance rates to reflect the higher risk due to your preexisting condition. It didn't used to be that way. Cancer survivors were nearly uninsurablle, unless they were part of very large groups. It wasn't uncommon for a small business to get cancelled or have rates raised by an insurer because they employed a high risk person. That is not how home insurance works. Rates are based on an individualized risk assessment of the home.

#23 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-03-26 10:13 PM | Reply

@#23 ... Legislation prevents insurance companies from raising your health insurance rates to reflect the higher risk due to your preexisting condition. ...

Taking a step back, that legislation increased the size of the pool of insured, and prevented insurance companies from eliminating from that pool those with pre-existing conditions.

To me, that seems to be A Good Thing. Insurance for all,not just the profitable.

But then there is the whole issue of health-care for profit.

And that has been multiple threads here.

#24 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-03-26 10:19 PM | Reply

"No, it's not just like health insurance. Legislation prevents insurance companies from raising your health insurance rates to reflect the higher risk due to your preexisting condition."

^
If we still allowed that, everybody who got COVID would be uninsurable.

#25 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-03-27 10:25 AM | Reply

-If we still allowed that, everybody who got COVID would be uninsurable.

preexisting condition exclusions never applied if you continue to have coverage and switch carriers.

That was one of the biggest misunderstandings when Obamacare was being debated.

Preexisting exclusions were a challenge for people who had let their coverage go away for 6 months but the perception was that anybody with a condition wouldn't have coverage if they switched jobs and consequently switched health providers.

No....not true.

#26 | Posted by eberly at 2024-03-27 11:02 AM | Reply

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