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Monday, April 29, 2024

Some Connecticut police departments have either replaced or have taken steps to replace their officers' duty weapons out of safety concerns, following reported incidents that those firearms allegedly fired without their triggers being pulled.

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... The publicly reported incidents involved gunmaker Sig Sauer's P320 handgun, the active duty weapon of many police departments. The U.S. Army uses the military version of the gun.

According to other media reports, judicial records and reports directly from agencies, there have been incidents when officers' duty weapons reportedly fired without their triggers being pulled.

Some of those officers were in Connecticut and include a Stamford police officer, who suffered a knee injury in 2017 when his holstered P320 handgun fired after it was dropped, according to a lawsuit he filed.

Officers in other states have also filed lawsuits.

Meanwhile, Sig Sauer has repeatedly denied claims, both publicly and in legal documents, that the handgun can fire without a trigger pull, saying the allegations are "without merit." ...



#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-04-27 01:01 PM | Reply

But we've been told for years that guns don't kill people?!? /s

#2 | Posted by qcp at 2024-04-29 09:51 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

"there have been incidents when officers' duty weapons reportedly fired without their triggers being pulled."

Now known as the "Baldwin Defense".

#3 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-04-29 12:55 PM | Reply

Sue the manufacture for making a defective product.

#4 | Posted by bat4255 at 2024-04-29 01:19 PM | Reply

Sue the manufacture for making a defective product.

#4 | POSTED BY BAT4255 A

Can we sue -------- parents?

#5 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-29 01:19 PM | Reply

Hey--I had the same problem one day while walking my sweet dog by the gravel pit...
-Kristi "I've had NO work done" Noem

#6 | Posted by catdog at 2024-04-29 01:57 PM | Reply

Actually it isn't all that surprising to me.

I guess maybe because I read about it a while back. The P320 was basically a redesign of the P250 and it seems in the design process Sig wanted to retain as many of the same parts between models. The P250 was a heavier and hammered version that could go off if dropped on it's butt - i.e. firing from inertia. The P320 is hammerless with a fully preset striker instead. A big issue is in the P320 there is no separate lever like found on nearly every other striker fired gun. That piece in a gun is an inertial drop safety. In other words it stops the trigger from pulling itself under inertia when the gun is dropped.

It is also important to note the striker is under full spring pressure in the P320 (and honestly many if not most similar handguns). This basically means it is fully cocked and requires less force to pull the trigger. Throw in the fact that in the rush to produce the P320 and retain parts between the two, they didn't bother to replace the trigger until issues started popping up and only then under a "voluntary" upgrade program and I don't think they were in the NEW guns until 2019. The new trigger is much lighter weight to help prevent this problem of firing from inertia. These add up to a series of design flaws IMHO.

There is a second issue that compounded the trigger problem. The striker safety lever and sear springs could become entangled and bound up leaving the striker safety disengaged and the sear not fully engaged. This could potentially cause the safety to fail and the pistol to fire unintentionally when subjected to impacts.

#7 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2024-04-29 02:12 PM | Reply

Sue the manufacture for making a defective product.

#4 | Posted by bat4255

They have been and losing for some reason. I have not looked into why but I suspect it has to do with the silent recall on them.

#8 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2024-04-29 02:13 PM | Reply

Well that sucks. I own the M17, the military version of the P320.

I knew of the drop issues but Sig claimed it was fixed. Guess not.

Kinda funny, though, how Sig tries to put on the stoic face in the article as if there weren't issues in the past.

#9 | Posted by jpw at 2024-04-30 12:11 AM | Reply

I own the M17, the military version of the P320.

I almost got me a P229 SAS but got hosed on the deal.

#10 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-04-30 12:28 AM | Reply

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