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Monday, April 29, 2024

The wealth gap between rich millennials and the rest of their age group is the largest of any generation, creating a new wave of class tension and resentment, according to a study.

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Crony capitalism makes sure that the rich get richer and the poor get more so.

FDR had a treatment for that, but in his day the corporations didn't own almost all of the lawmakers.

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2024-04-28 11:08 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

So, crypto millionaires and greater fools?

#2 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-04-28 11:53 AM | Reply

Crony capitalism makes sure that the rich get richer and the poor get more so.
- CorkyTheBigot

Yes this is what taxes, over regulation and big government get you.

Not a small government fan, but the US is on the verge of being true "socialism" similar to Nazi Germany, where big companies get a majority of their revenue from the government.

#3 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-04-28 12:40 PM | Reply | Funny: 3

but the US is on the verge of being true "socialism" similar to Nazi Germany,

#3 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

What a coincidence. Someone is running for Fuhrer on the Republican ticket.

#4 | Posted by Zed at 2024-04-28 01:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

- true "socialism" similar to Nazi Germany

True fool doesn't know his history.

"Were the Nazis socialists? No, not in any meaningful way, and certainly not after 1934. But to address this canard fully, one must begin with the birth of the party."

"By the late 1920s, however, with the German economy in free fall, Hitler had enlisted support from wealthy industrialists who sought to pursue avowedly anti-socialist policies."

www.britannica.com

#5 | Posted by Corky at 2024-04-28 02:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

" true "socialism" similar to Nazi Germany"

What a riot.

The Nazis, for all their Socialist blather, NEVER GOVERNED A DAY AS SOCIALISTS. NOT ONE.

It's like claiming Saddam's Republican Guards were all Republicans ... because it's right there in the name!

#6 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-04-28 04:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Tax Strategies of the Wealthy: Why They Pay Less
www.trustworthy.com

... According to the IRS, the more money you make, the more you should owe in taxes. However, statistics from recent years tell a different story. In 2021, the 400 richest families in America paid an individual tax rate of 8.2 percent, whereas the average American taxpayer paid 13.3 percent. Here are some explanations for this. ...

#7 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-04-28 07:30 PM | Reply

" statistics from recent years tell a different story."

Of course they do. Each of the four tax codes in my career (Reagan, Dubya I, Dubya II, and Trump) all funneled successively greater amounts upward.

My wealthy clients expect me to give them a "to do" list: max your 401k, max your IRA and your HSA, and if you're self-employed, don't forget your SEP, SIMPLE, or SOLO 401k. And if you can afford it, choose a ROTH 401k, and pay the taxes now.

I've never had a single complaint about taxes paid by ANY client who took full advantage of the opportunities.

#8 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-04-28 07:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

"SB1718 punishes employers who use undocumented workers...."

Let's not lose sight of the fact the people bitching, are the people who were breaking the law on a regular basis.

#9 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-04-28 07:41 PM | Reply

@#9

Reply on an incorrect thread?

#10 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-04-28 07:57 PM | Reply

@#8 ... My wealthy clients expect me to give them a "to do" list: ...

A fun query to pop into your search engine of choice...

        billionaires exploiting IRAs


Wow.

#11 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-04-28 08:00 PM | Reply

true "socialism" similar to Nazi Germany

#3 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

How to tell all that you failed miserably in your history and ideology courses.

#12 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2024-04-29 11:19 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The funniest part is when you find out why the gap exists. If you get rid of the ones who were born into money, just about EVERY SINGLE PERSON who is towards the top of the wage gap did it because of THEIR effort. The ones who aren't are the ones who are crying and whining like babies that they should be paid a lot of money for doing as little as possible. Try to debate that. Just make sure you come back with numbers first proving that the wage gap exists beyond personal responsibility elements.

#13 | Posted by humtake at 2024-04-29 12:43 PM | Reply

"If you get rid of the ones who were born into money, just about EVERY SINGLE PERSON who is towards the top of the wage gap did it because of THEIR effort."

Link?

#14 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-29 12:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

How to tell all that you failed miserably in your history and ideology courses.
#12 | POSTED BY WHATSLEFT

Serve it up.

Show me the utopian socialist country that doesn't practice crony capitalism.

#15 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-04-29 12:56 PM | Reply

#15

There is no "utopia". Perhaps it's unfortunate that flawed human nature would never allow it. But Nazi Germany was not a socialist country. They were far closer to the right/fascist side of the scale. Not very different from where the US is headed if your MAGA cult continues to grow. By most reasonable measures, countries that find the best balance of democratic socialism and regulated capitalism rank highest in quality of life and lowest in inequity.

Since you seem to have such fondness for cronyism, why didn't you simply stay in China or move across the border to Russia, instead of across the ocean to the US? Or are you actually just here to help Russia and/or China undermine America?

#16 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2024-04-29 01:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

---------------------------- is a clown.

#17 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-04-29 10:00 PM | Reply

You mean those with 'inherited wealth' vs those without.
I can see that.

#18 | Posted by earthmuse at 2024-04-30 08:59 AM | Reply

You mean those with 'inherited wealth' vs those without.
I can see that.

#18 | POSTED BY EARTHMUSE

This! This is the difference.

The other big difference between Boomers and Millennials? Boomers are living much longer than their parents so Millennials are getting inheritance much later if at all. Not only do they get inheritance much later in life, but because Boomers are living longer, they are spending more of their retirement funds.

#19 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-04-30 11:04 AM | Reply

I read a stat recently that said something like
70% of all wealth now-a-days is inherited. Which will
just further exacerbate the haves vs the have nots wealth
gap in this country.

Sadly, due to many people not saving properly (or because they
are unable to save) there is a large percentage, like 40% of
America that will be broke heading into retirement and have to
basically work until they die.

Hence, I think, the reason for the large uptick in white suicide
seen lately. Many peeps over COVID saw the writing on the wall,
and decided to cash out early, instead of working until they collapse.

Lucky for me, both my parents were Great Depression Era parents, and
drove into me (from a young age) to save save save. I had to teach
myself about investing.

#20 | Posted by earthmuse at 2024-04-30 02:12 PM | Reply

"billionaires exploiting IRAs"

Yep. By putting futures or undervalued stocks in them.

Others as well, as long as they have taxable investments.

I have a client who is 50, and just inherited ~$300,000. Our plan is for her to max out her Roth 401k at work, and live off the inheritance instead of take-home pay. In 10-15 years, she will have traded out a $300k taxable investment account for a ~$450k-$500k tax-FREE investment account.

#21 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-04-30 02:25 PM | Reply

#21 That is smart as well as a good example of the privilege that having wealth gets you.

#22 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-30 02:28 PM | Reply

Isn't maxing out her Roth only $8500 a year though?

#23 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-30 02:38 PM | Reply

"I read a stat recently that said something like 70% of all wealth now-a-days is inherited. Which will just further exacerbate the haves vs the have nots wealth gap in this country."

Yep.

I use the twin example all the time with clients:

Let's say you start maxing out your retirement funds today. Then fifteen years from now, your twin says, "That saving for retirement is a good idea. I'm going to start maxing out like you do." And you say, "Saving?!? I'm so tired of saving, I'm never going to save another penny!!!"

How many years does it take for your sibling to catch you? 15 years? 30? 50? Or 50,000?

The answer is None of the Above. Not 50, not 50,000, not 50 million. Why? Because the money you've put away after 15 years already generates more money annually than your sibling can put away. Each passing year just exacerbates the difference.

Once you understand that concept, it's easy to see the results of a 150 year lead.

#24 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-04-30 02:41 PM | Reply

" Isn't maxing out her Roth only $8500 a year though?"

Currently $8000, counting the $1000 catch up. But a 401(k) at work (or it's siblings, the 403B and the 457G) allow $30,500, Including the catch up. Self-employed folks can do the $30,500 as an employee, plus 25% of profits above that as the employer. With catch-up, that number's cap is currently $73,500.

Prime tools for building and cementing more wealth for the wealthy.

#25 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-04-30 02:49 PM | Reply

" a good example of the privilege that having wealth gets you."

You are ABSOLUTELY correct. I've literally seen as much play out hundreds of times.

#26 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-04-30 02:51 PM | Reply

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