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Tuesday, May 14, 2024

The Democrats Have a Joe Biden Problem

that poll has Donald Trump leading in five of the six swing states that will decide the 2024 election"two by double digits, and another two by seven points each. It also found that President Biden is seriously underperforming with young people and people of color, key voting blocs that he will need to win in November; that a sizable majority have deep reservations about Biden's ability to lead the economy; and that many voters have forgotten, or no longer object to, some of the most disastrous aspects of Trump's presidency. With crank independent candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. on the ballot, Biden's support dips as low as 30 percent. The poll is rightly causing panic among Democrats, but it also shows that the election is not a lost cause for the party. While the numbers for Biden specifically are terrible, other Democrats are performing quite well.

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I'm not sure how they'd pull it off.

I think getting rid of Biden wouldn't be too difficult. He could announce that he's finishing his first term and then retiring due to age, and in the process be able to shine a spotlight on Trump's age. Finishing the term would mean Harris isn't an actual incumbent. But she's still a big problem. She would be the presumptive nominee and her polling is terrible.

The primaries are effectively over so how would the Dems select a replacement? Smoke-filled back- room dealing? How would the voting public react to that? Time is also an issue. If this is going to happen, the longer they wait the longer the process odds against a replacement. The convention is 3 months away. If it doesn't happen soon Biden is the horse Dems will have to ride.

#1 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-05-14 12:47 PM | Reply

November is a long way off and there is a major difference between all voting age voters registered voters and likely voters

And ------- has major problems of his own like the 15-20% of Republican voters still voting for Nicky Haley

#2 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-05-14 12:54 PM | Reply

Example of the stupidity of the American voter

A pollster interviewed a Wisconsin building laborer working on a construction project that bidens ira funded and he says he is going to vote for ------- because "of the traffic caused by construction "

God save us

#3 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-05-14 12:56 PM | Reply

Democrats are very fortunate that Trump is the opponent. And 6 months is a long time in politics for Biden to improve in polling. Having said that, he's been stuck in the mud for the polling for well over a year. I'm struggling to see how that changes in a significant manner. C

#4 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-05-14 01:06 PM | Reply

"Forget the polls, forget the pundits.

Polls six months, five months, even closer to the election have zero predictive value.
Forget all of the pundits who have said Biden's too old. Democrat's only chance to win is with Biden running for re-election.

One of my keys is incumbency, he obviously wins that. Another key is party contest, he's not been contested. That's two keys off the top that Biden wins. That means six keys out of the remaining 11 would have to fall to predict his defeat.

I've also said while I have no final prediction, a lot would have to go wrong for Biden to lose."

www.usatoday.com

#5 | Posted by Corky at 2024-05-14 01:17 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I actually agree with Bellringer. Trump is hoing to lose and he might be the only republican that dan do that against Biden.

#6 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-05-14 01:18 PM | Reply

Ballwasher has a reality problem.

#7 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-05-14 04:08 PM | Reply

"The Democrats Have a Joe Biden Problem"

The Republicans have a bigger Dobbs Decision Problem.

#8 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-05-14 04:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I struggle to trust any of these polls that show Trump not being way behind.

It's why we have elections.

"The Republicans have a bigger Dobbs Decision Problem."

How so?

#9 | Posted by eberly at 2024-05-14 04:32 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

" How so?

#9 | POSTED BY EBERLY AT 2024-05-14 04:32 PM | FLAG: "

I think Dobbs hurts Republicans more than it helps especially given a few red states have passed extremist laws limiting abortion.

#10 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-05-14 04:57 PM | Reply

I see....okay...makes sense.

not sure its going to impact a presidential election or even congressional races......we'll see.

#11 | Posted by eberly at 2024-05-14 05:24 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"How so?"

1. Look what happened in red Kansas, red Ohio, and red Alabama, when women believed their rights were on the table.

2. Every poll this cycle is based on turnout and proclivities of the last presidential election. None of them account for pissed " off women. Once accounted for, Kansas, Ohio, and Alabama will prove a harbinger.

Dobbs will be the driver.

Never underestimate the grit and determination of P'O'd women.

#12 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-05-14 05:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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I see. We'll see if this matters in a general election.

#13 | Posted by eberly at 2024-05-14 05:33 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I see. We'll see if this matters in a general election.

#13 | Posted by eberly

Trump already has a HUGE problem with women voters. Dobbs - and what Trump might do if reelected - only adds to that problem.

Two weeks ago:

Donald Trump's Women Voter Problem is Getting Worse

...

Polls show that the proportion of women who plan to vote for Trump in November is less than the proportion who voted for him in the 2020 election. Meanwhile, experts told Newsweek Trump's views on abortion and his recent legal cases involving women will impact voter behavior on polling day.

But according to a January Quinnipiac University poll of registered voters, 58 percent of women now back Biden while 36 percent back Trump. In December, the same polling company found the gap was 53 percent to 41 percent, showing Trump's support among women is declining.

www.newsweek.com

Biden's ahead with seniors. Losing women that badly would guarantee a Biden win in November. There's little Trump could do between now and November to ingratiate himself with women.

There's also the matter of Haley getting double digit votes in primaries months after dropping out. Just happened in Indiana last Tuesday, where Haley got 22% of Republican votes. All Republicans aren't MAGA. Disaffected Republicans (call 'em "Reagan Republicans") are disgusted by Trump. Losing even a percentage of those voters only adds to Trump's problem with voters.

#14 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2024-05-14 05:48 PM | Reply

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Good points....which is why I struggle believing these polls having Trump where they have him.

#15 | Posted by eberly at 2024-05-14 05:53 PM | Reply

#14 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY
#15 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Add to that the potential that 40% of Republicans won't vote for Trump if he's convicted of a crime. I'm not suggesting that's going to happen, but it's a tough variable to overcome if it happens.

#16 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2024-05-14 05:58 PM | Reply

Damn! Stock Market closed at a Record High today.

Biden hasn't got a chance, I tells ya!

#17 | Posted by Corky at 2024-05-14 06:02 PM | Reply

These polls would have you think a significant number of Americans believe Biden's challenges are a bigger concern than Everything surrounding Trump.

Which is insane. It's almost as if someone needs to stand up...someone prominent in the democratic party and stand them next to someone prominent in the republican party...... and say "Joe Biden in a ------- coma is a better choice than Trump". The republican only has to stand there and nod in agreement.

#18 | Posted by eberly at 2024-05-14 06:03 PM | Reply

Trump is doing well in the polls because his opponent is Biden.

It's just that simple.

#19 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-05-14 06:07 PM | Reply

someone prominent in the democratic party and stand them next to someone prominent in the republican party...... and say "Joe Biden in a ------- coma is a better choice than Trump". The republican only has to stand there and nod in agreement.

Two problems with this.

1) Democrats are awful at messaging.

2) Who's going to believe a RINO?

#20 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-05-14 06:12 PM | Reply

The polls are all over the place. Case in point:

Ipsos Polling with the New York Times
A survey of the American general population (ages 18+)
Interview dates: May 3-6, 2024
Number of total interviews: 1,021

Registered voters

Joe Biden, the Democrat 47%
Donald Trump, the Republican 43%
Other, specify (Total): 7%

Other, (unnamed) 5% -- 5%
RFK Jr. (Other, specify) 1% -- 1%
Other by name 1% -- 1%
Skipped 3% -- 3%

#21 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-05-14 06:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

" Add to that the potential that 40% of Republicans won't vote for Trump if he's convicted of a crime. I'm not suggesting that's going to happen, but it's a tough variable to overcome if it happens.

#16 | POSTED BY RSTYBEACH11 AT 2024-05-14 05:58 PM | FLAG: "

If that happens he will lose independent voters as well.

#22 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-05-14 07:49 PM | Reply

@#21 ... The polls are all over the place ...

At this point in the campaign, yeah. Not a surprise.

Registered voters vs likely voters, for one thing.

And then there are those who are polled and who register an opinion to ~make a statement~ as opposed to how they may actually vote on Election Day.

At this point in the political cycle, all you can really expect to garner from the polls is a trend.

Not a snapshot in time, but a trend.

#23 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-05-14 08:19 PM | Reply

At this point in the political cycle, all you can really expect to garner from the polls is a trend.
Not a snapshot in time, but a trend.
#23 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

I agree. Just as there is a massively significant portion of Republicans suggesting that they will not vote for Trump if he is convicted of a crime, I wonder if there is a similar variable at play with these folks that are upset with Biden in terms of their CURRENT responses to poll questions.

#24 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2024-05-14 11:11 PM | Reply

Nikki Haley once again got double digits- 20% - in the closed Maryland Republican primary last night. Only registered Republicans could participate, so this is indicative .

There's a significant percentage of "Reagan Republicans" who don't like and won't vote for Trump.

#25 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2024-05-15 02:36 AM | Reply

Warning signs for Trump, self-funders in Tuesday's primaries

Nikki Haley's zombie presidential candidacy is still drawing a sizable slice of the Republican vote in the suburbs.

www.politico.com

#26 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2024-05-15 02:39 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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