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Sunday, May 19, 2024

It's a sight that's made drivers do a double take: a stop sign hanging overhead where a traffic light would normally be, located above the intersection of E. 12th Street and 16th Avenue in Oakland. Neighbors said city workers removed the all the traffic lights in the last week and replaced them with four-way stop signs. The installation came after months of people stealing copper wires and tampering with the city electrical boxes that supply power to the traffic lights. "It's just telling us that the city is giving up on us," said Tam Le, owner of Le's Auto Body & Engine Repair, located at the corner of the intersection. Neighbors said the lights that were there before hadn't worked in months, either blinking red or being completely out. "This is a brand new solution to a problem that's taken many forms here," said neighbor Mason Young.

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Young said the stop signs are better than non-working traffic lights, which he blamed for a crash that sent a truck into the fence of Le's repair shop last year.

"The city did try to fix the traffic light at least a few times. But once they fixed it, normally within a week or so, it will go out again," said Le.

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Copper Thefts
www.fbi.gov

... The assessment highlights copper theft and its impact on US critical infrastructure. Copper thefts are occurring throughout the United States and are perpetrated by individuals and organized groups motivated by quick profits and a variety of vulnerable targets. Information for the assessment was developed through May 2008 from the following sources:

- - - FBI

- - - Open sources

...

Key Judgments

- - - Copper thieves are threatening US critical infrastructure by targeting electrical sub-stations, cellular towers, telephone land lines, railroads, water wells, construction sites, and vacant homes for lucrative profits. The theft of copper from these targets disrupts the flow of electricity, telecommunications, transportation, water supply, heating, and security and emergency services and presents a risk to both public safety and national security.1

- - - Copper thieves are typically individuals or organized groups who operate independently or in loose association with each other and commit thefts in conjunction with fencing activities and the sale of contraband. Organized groups of drug addicts, gang members, and metal thieves are conducting large scale thefts from electric utilities, warehouses, foreclosed or vacant properties, and oil well sites for tens of thousands of dollars in illicit proceeds per month. 2

- - - The demand for copper from developing nations such as China and India is creating a robust international copper trade. Copper thieves are exploiting this demand and the resulting price surge by stealing and selling the metal for high profits to recyclers across the United States. As the global supply of copper continues to tighten, the market for illicit copper will likely increase. ...


#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-05-19 09:33 PM | Reply

This is very good news for the economy.

#2 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-05-19 09:46 PM | Reply

---- off you stupid Floribama ----.

#3 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-05-19 09:51 PM | Reply

@#2 ... his is very good news for the economy. ...

Yup.

Demand for copper is one of the indicators of a healthy economy.

How that demand is satisfied, well, that may be a different story.


#4 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-05-19 09:57 PM | Reply

Feel better Chucklefuk? Got your auto ship if GDSL early? TooTles.

#5 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2024-05-19 09:58 PM | Reply

@#5 ... Feel better Chucklefuk? Got your auto ship if GDSL early? TooTles. ...

Huh?

Please do try to make sense.

#6 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-05-19 10:11 PM | Reply

?

Gracie have a stroke?

#7 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-05-19 10:12 PM | Reply

LOL.

#8 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-05-19 10:12 PM | Reply

Seems like it would be good for his auto body repair business.

#9 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2024-05-19 10:13 PM | Reply

Whistles go Woo.

#10 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-05-19 10:19 PM | Reply

Have a stroke? Who would notice?

#11 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-05-19 11:09 PM | Reply

This is very good news for the economy.
#2 | POSTED BY REDIAL

You mean good for the rich and wealthy.

Imagine being in the vulnerable group living near one of the lights being disassembled so people don't steal it.

Basically you and gaslighter are says it's just raining as you piss on the poor and vulnerable.

#12 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-05-20 10:07 AM | Reply

You mean good for the rich and wealthy.
Imagine being in the vulnerable group living near one of the lights being disassembled so people don't steal it.
Basically you and gaslighter are says it's just raining as you piss on the poor and vulnerable.

#12 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

That's quite the leap in logic.

No surprise for you though.

#13 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-05-20 10:12 AM | Reply

#12 | POSTED BY IAMRUNT

Says the racist turd who cheered for this.

www.theguardian.com

#14 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-05-20 10:13 AM | Reply

This is very good news for the economy.

#2 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-05-19 09:46 PM | Reply | Flag

Since Biden took office, copper rounds and bars are selling on precious metals websites like APMEX

Home Depot had to lock up the Romex. They have a spool of it at the lumber checkout where you can buy it by the foot... Reminiscent of the spools if electroplated gold chain you could buy in the 1980s shopping malls kiosks.

#15 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-05-20 09:52 PM | Reply

"Since Biden took office, copper rounds and bars are selling on precious metals websites like APMEX"

JM Bullion Vs. APMEX Vs. HAA -- Who's The Better Gold Dealer?

Feb 20, 2017,02:00pm EST

JM Bullion and APMEX offer copper products. Copper is a hard asset, though it is not a precious metal and won't always move the same as gold and silver

www.forbes.com

#16 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-05-20 10:04 PM | Reply

Copper future potentially exciting
MAR 18, 2017

Copper can currently be found on one popular bullion website that I like to look at, APMEX, but you look under "Other Items" to find it. I expect $10-a-pound copper would promote the metal to having its own header.

www.numismaticnews.net

#17 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-05-20 10:08 PM | Reply

Oakland - the Democrat Utopia showcasing the full implementation of their social and economic policies.

#18 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-05-20 10:36 PM | Reply

They rip the wire out of under construction houses, and gut Air conditioning units for the copper tubing. The worst case I had was a grocery store where they gutted the refrigeration coils on the roof, which shut down all the coolers Every single cold item of food in the store had to be trashed. Hundreds of thousands of dollars of losses. They usually metal trash cans or drums to burn off the plastic and melt the tubing to make it unrecognizable, then sell it at the recylcling place.

Some of you may recall the Jackie Robinson statue, which was cut from it's pedestal and burned in a trash can. I got called all kinds of names for suggesting it was most likely the work of opportunistic scrappers rather than white supremacist MAGA terrorists. Turns out it was scrappers.

www.kwch.com

#19 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-05-21 12:17 AM | Reply

" it was most likely the work of opportunistic scrappers rather than white supremacist MAGA terrorists."

No proof it wasn't both.

#20 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-05-21 12:35 AM | Reply

#20 except a famous razor would indicate it's most likely only the former.

#21 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2024-05-21 01:25 PM | Reply

#16 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-05-20 10:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

You got me partner. I didn't realize they were selling rounds back then.

But since you cite 2017, copper has more than doubled since then. And has gone from $3.60 to $5.10 since Biden took office. One can easily see the incentive to steal it.

#22 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-05-21 02:36 PM | Reply

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