"And, rightfully so, so long as such scrutiny is factually-based."

Hopefully he (assuming it's a he) avoids using eyeliner.

It's been so much fun dinging JD for that. Don't wanna ruin a good thing.

"What's the big deal Vance using eye liner?"

It's not normal? Do you wear eyeliner when you go out in public?

I have never ever considered it.

Speaking of big deals ...

Whats the big deal with Kamala being half Indian and half black?

Wearing eyeliner as a male is a whole lot weirder than being the product of a mixed marriage.

"They need to debate."

Agreed! We will have to wait until The Donald stops running around like a chicken with its head cut off with blood coming out of his whatevers.

And it's also too bad we don't a really have real "debates" anymore. Did we ever? I heard the Lincoln Douglas debate was pretty cool. They didn't need "moderators." They knew how to act like adults and allow the other to finish a damn sentence.

We don't need no stinkin "moderators". Well now that I think about it Trumpy might. He still acts like a 5 year old who interrupts you with insults every time you try to speak.

"Would really like hearing how you decide which men it is "normal" to wear eye liner in public."

If you feel the need to wear makeup as a man it speaks volumes about you and your vanity.

Most men don't think it's needed or normal. Sure there are many men who wish to live an alternate lifestyle and they wear makeup. But they are not running to represent all of us. (Yet)

And I confess that I have even worn makeup. On Halloween.

But it's not Halloween and in the normal course of things men wearing makeup such as eyeliner is not normal or even needed.

Of course we can always have the discussion as to what is "normal" anymore as that is gradually changing as it always will. But that's a whole thread in itself.

And honestly we would probably never make fun of JD for wearing makeup if he wasn't such a maga ass who treats his fellow humans who are not like him with contempt.