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Friday, September 27, 2024

The X, formerly known as Twitter, account of journalist Ken Klippenstein was suspended on Thursday following the release of a dossier about Senator JD Vance that was allegedly from an Iranian government hack.

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I'm sure Jeff and other DR Conservatives, who heavily criticized Twitter for initially banning some people over the Hunter Biden laptop hack, will be here to complain bitterly. ... Any minute now ...

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Elmo only want free speech for nazis and racists that he agree with.

I left -------- and don't regret it.

#1 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-09-27 11:46 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#1. Vance was fricking doxxed, including his SS number.

That is a clear violation of X rules.

#2 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-09-27 03:13 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#2 really SS number?

Perhaps speaksoftly will do the same, since he considers it no big deal.

#3 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-09-27 03:30 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Patricide Jeff and IAMRUNT cheered when Leon doxxed this kid.

www.forbes.com

#4 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-09-27 04:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

His site, his choice. Or does that only apply to some?

#5 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2024-09-27 07:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Leon is a free speech warrior.

~ MAGA dumfux ~

#6 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-09-27 07:27 PM | Reply

Who is Leon?

#7 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-09-27 07:34 PM | Reply

The------------- referred to him as Leon at one of his klan rallies.

#8 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-09-27 07:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Musk? I wasn't aware of that. Learn something new every day.

#9 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-09-27 07:40 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Oh, people were saying Obama was born in Kenia?

I didn't know that. You learn something new every day

- - bellPOS

#10 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2024-09-27 09:18 PM | Reply

Trump said Haitians are eating peoples pets?

I hadn't heard that. You learn something new everyday

- - bellringerj

#11 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2024-09-27 09:21 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

From the Authors site (and he IS CORRECT):

We should be honest about so-called private information contained in the dossier and "private" information in general. It is readily available to anyone who can buy it. The campaign purchased this information from commercial information brokers. Those dealers make huge profits from selling this data. And the media knows it, because they buy the data for reporting purposes, just like the campaign. They don't like to mention that though.

#12 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2024-09-27 09:51 PM | Reply

Can we just have an honest discussion on how Leon musk is suppressing information the American people deserve to hear?

Apparently not. Even though that very jackass posting on this thread made that exact statement about Benghazi or whatever's
Let's not mention Obama invading Texas, nationalizing all foreigners, institutionalizing Shariah law, spreading Ebola and the countless other things you claimed the "media" ignored or "suppressed"

#13 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2024-09-27 10:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Moron,

Vance. Was. Doxxed. That is a clear violation of X rules. Further, where in the hell were you when all of big tech suppressed the laptop story that was 100% true?

#14 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-09-27 10:18 PM | Reply

Whatabout

Character that's dependent on someone else's actions is no character at all

#15 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2024-09-27 10:41 PM | Reply

Ballwasher the clown.

#16 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-09-28 04:17 AM | Reply

#14 | Posted by BellRinger

He is not a private citizen but a member of Congress. The author could have blocked out the SSN. Everything else is already out there. Understand that too, anyone can buy this information. Don't pretend even his SSN is not readily available to anyone that pays a few dollars. Don't cry about that one small fact when the rest is of interest.

Here is the Author's take on the dossier and the actual dossier. It is easy to find and readily available. Apologies is this violates site rules.

#17 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2024-09-28 11:53 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Oh noes! Russia if you are listening we still need those Hillary emails!

"Vance. Was. Doxxed."

Says the guy who spreads misinformation about Ashley Biden from info gleaned from her stolen diary.

#18 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-09-28 12:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#2 ... That is a clear violation of X rules. ...

So, your current alias seems to agree that those who post on social media sites need to abide by the rules of that site?


#19 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-09-28 08:34 PM | Reply

@#5 ... His site, his choice. Or does that only apply to some? ...

I think it applies to all sites, that the rules of posting on the site should be obeyed.

#20 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-09-28 08:36 PM | Reply

The X Rules
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#21 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-09-28 08:38 PM | Reply

@#14 ... where in the hell were you when all of big tech suppressed the laptop story that was 100% true? ...

Based upon what I remember from back then, there were numerous discussions here about how ridiculous the story was, mainly because the trail of evidence did not prove it was true. Indeed, the provenance of evidence showed that the evidence was likely altered.

But, I got to ask...

Your current alias is hanging its hat on that one?

I mean, really.

Lame.


#22 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-09-28 08:42 PM | Reply

Further, where in the hell were you when all of big tech suppressed the laptop story that was 100% true?
#14 | Posted by BellRinger

The laptop was a Russian op:

Denver Riggleman - Former VA Rep, Former USAF/NSA Intel
@RepRiggleman

I know @levparnas

He's not ------------.

Watch his documentary #FromRussiaWithLev

I know a lot about this. More than most ...

Jay
@nobodyafrn1
So this whole Hunters laptop stuff was a Russian op?

Mighty Hams
@TheMightyHams
Parnas said in an interview after the doc that a Russian intelligence asset pretended to be Biden's friend and took him to Kazakhstan, which is where the Russians got his laptop. The laptop itself may be real, but the stuff that was added to it by Russia is the op.

x.com

#23 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-09-28 09:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

" 100% true"
~Bellringer

100%?!?

Why are you lying again?

I'm beginning to believe it's pathological.

#24 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-09-28 10:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

#24. It was used as evidence in a criminal trial against Hunter Biden.

Are you still with the whole "it's a Russian smear campaign" your betters told you to believe?

Wouldn't surprise me.

#25 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-09-29 03:10 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#25 ... It was used as evidence in a criminal trial against Hunter Biden. ...

And, what was the result of that usage?

How many of the claims made because of the laptop have been demonstrated to be true?


#26 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-09-29 03:22 AM | Reply

I'm not sure who is more "holistic" in their approach - Danforth or Lamplighter. For the time being I'm going with Danforth. He's very holistic in regards to inspiration inspiring all of us to cut through red tape (hand gestures all over the place).

#27 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-09-29 03:31 AM | Reply

@#27 ... I'm not sure who is more "holistic" in their approach - ...

So, your current alias admits it has nothing.

Good to know. :)

#28 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-09-29 03:36 AM | Reply

I've been unburdened by what has been, Lamplighter.

#29 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-09-29 03:59 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

@#29 ... I've been unburdened by what has been ...

So, your current alias still has nothing besides admitting it wants nothing to do with its past?

I hope you find your karma ....





#30 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-09-29 04:12 AM | Reply

I've found my karma, Lamplighter. My alias has found it's karma. It's a yellow school bus! And who doesn't love a yellow school bus, right?

#31 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-09-29 04:24 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

"#24. It was used as evidence in a criminal trial against Hunter Biden."

It was introduced as evidence, but despite that fact, the FBI never properly validated the material on the laptop:

I was suspicious, too, because Hines' claim that evidence obtained from the laptop was "largely duplicative" admits that it was not entirely duplicative. His choice of language made it clear there were things on the laptop that were not in the iCloud.

And he did so in a paragraph that tried to obscure how the provenance of the laptop affects the provenance of his other evidence. . .

Over 1,500 days after receiving the laptop, the FBI has not done the things it would need to do to validate the laptop. They don't have an index of what they have and they don't know how all the embedded back-ups relate to one another. Without that, they cannot make representations that the laptop was not tampered with. Indeed, they're making laughably false claims about what they have found uniquely on the laptop, a testament that they don't have the most basic understanding about the laptop...

Since Derek Hines made dubious claims on January 16 that the laptop was "largely duplicative" of material found in Hunter Biden's iCloud, we've since learned one reason he was so squirrelly when he made that claim: his most important evidence for the gun crime doesn't appear to be duplicated in Hunter's iCloud And unless the FBI conducted an unlawful search of Hunter's digital evidence--or unless they indicted based on what they had seen in Murdoch publications--they did not learn that until months after they charged the President's son. And they didn't learn that because four years after obtaining the laptop, the FBI has still never taken basic steps to understand what is on it.

www.emptywheel.net

#32 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-09-29 08:18 AM | Reply

PS Furthermore, Hunter Biden never agreed that the data on the laptop was his:

More importantly, Hines blatantly misstates Hunter Biden's view on the authenticity of the data on the laptop. In Abbe Lowell's response to Hines' motion to bypass any expert witness, he specifically debunked that claim.

Defense counsel has numerous reasons to believe the data had been altered and compromised before investigators obtained the electronic material from Apple Inc. and The Mac Shop, such that the Special Counsel's claim that the underlying data is "authentic" (id. at 4) and accurately reflects "defendant's Apple Macbook Pro and [] hard drive" (id. at 2) is mistaken.

Mr. Biden's counsel told the Special Counsel on May 10, 2024 it agrees not to challenge the authenticity of the electronic data the Special Counsel intends to use with respect to it being what law enforcement received on December 9, 2019 from John Paul Mac Isaac (owner of The Mac Shop), and from Apple on August 29, 2019 and in a follow-up search on July 10, 2020. (Mot. at n.3.) However, Mr. Biden cannot agree this electronic data is "authentic" as to being his data as he used and stored it prior to Mac Issac obtaining it.

He pointedly did not agree that the data derived from the laptop (and hard drive, which I suspect has more irregularities) was "authentic" as to being his own data.

www.emptywheel.net

#33 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-09-29 08:44 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

IOW, what Parnas said about the laptop being a Russian op could very well be true:

Parnas said in an interview after the doc that a Russian intelligence asset pretended to be Biden's friend and took him to Kazakhstan, which is where the Russians got his laptop. The laptop itself may be real, but the stuff that was added to it by Russia is the op.

#34 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-09-29 08:48 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Oh, yeah, I forgot to include this additional paragraph above:

He pointedly did not agree that the data derived from the laptop (and hard drive, which I suspect has more irregularities) was "authentic" as to being his own data.

One reason I'm interested in the hard drive is because Hines himself revealed that the "backup" of it is 62% bigger than the laptop of which it purports to be a copy. Understanding why that is so might go a long way to explain anything John Paul Mac Isaac did with Hunter Biden's data.

www.emptywheel.net

Weird, huh?

#35 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-09-29 08:59 AM | Reply

I see it only took 3+ years for the left to get all frustrated with freedom speech again.

#36 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-09-29 04:05 PM | Reply

Lots of posts from Gal on one topic can only mean one thing.

She's covering up a lie of some sort.

#37 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-09-29 04:25 PM | Reply

Lots of posts from Gal on one topic can only mean one thing.

Yes. It means Dinger derailed another thread.

#38 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-09-29 04:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I see it only took 3+ years for the left to get all frustrated with freedom speech again.

"3+ years"? So a bunch of years. You're just aware it's been more than three.

Meanwhile the right has been dismantling freedom of speech for decades.

You can't even watch pornhub in Texas anymore.

Do what the conservative government tells you to do. You scared moron.

#39 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-09-29 05:21 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

It was used as evidence in a criminal trial against Hunter Biden.

The devastating laptop the GOP went on for four years about that contained absolutely nothing they claimed it would?

You should definitely hang your hat on that.

#40 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-09-29 05:47 PM | Reply

How many of the claims made because of the laptop have been demonstrated to be true?
#26 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

Zero.

But, BullBringer and MTG now have a collection of Hunter Biden Dick Pics to drool over.

#41 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-09-29 05:50 PM | Reply

#31

Short bus, no doubt.

#42 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-09-29 06:42 PM | Reply

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