A Vote for Trump Is a Vote for Putin -- and a World in Danger

Friday, February 23, 2024

David Rothkopf: It is time to move beyond the political spin offered by GOP propagandists and Internet trolls and acknowledge that Trump and the MAGA movement are today active assets of Vladimir Putin and the Kremlin, as essential to Russia's future global ambitions as that country's own armed forces.

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"Trump and the MAGA movement are today active assets of Vladimir Putin and the Kremlin"

It's the best theory to explain MAGA behavior. Every day provides more evidence.

Legislators being bought off by foreign enemy money goes back at least to the Romans.

Now I think we can add to that blackmail by foreign enemies.

#1 | Posted by Zed at 2024-02-23 09:35 AM | Reply

Forget that "pee tape". I want to know how old that girl was Russian intelligence videoed Trump having sex with in Moscow, And it there was more than one of them.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2024-02-23 09:40 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I have a sneaking suspicion that enabling Genocide is not going to encourage enough people to vote for Biden this go-around, as much as he and his supporters would like to believe.

So, apparently, the choices for the average American who has spent their whole lives having evil secretly and not-so-secretly done in their name is this: learn to speak Russian or start turning your domestic ploughshares into semiautomatic swords and finding a nice foxhole to hide.

#3 | Posted by ExpectingReign at 2024-02-23 09:51 AM | Reply

I have a sneaking suspicion that enabling Genocide is not going to encourage enough people to vote for Biden this go-around

#3 | POSTED BY EXPECTINGREIGN

MAGA won't even stand up for their health care or Social Security benefits.

Where did these shmoos come from?

Shmoos: From Andy Cap--A mythological creature that begs to be eaten.

#4 | Posted by Zed at 2024-02-23 09:57 AM | Reply

#3 Nothing has fundamentally changed.

#5 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-02-23 09:57 AM | Reply

Forget that "pee tape". I want to know how old that girl was Russian intelligence videoed Trump having sex with in Moscow, And it there was more than one of them.

#2 | Posted by Zed

IMO, it's something even more serious than sex with underage girls.

Perhaps accidentally killing a girl/woman. Like the senator in the Godfather.

#6 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2024-02-23 07:09 PM | Reply

LOL, as the Left still pushing their false narrative.

#7 | Posted by MSgt at 2024-02-23 08:11 PM | Reply

ZED

I wanted to flag your #2 as funny but only the part about an impotent Trump "having sex."

Now THAT was funny.

#8 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-02-23 08:12 PM | Reply

A vote for Biden or any Democrat is a vote against every American.

#9 | Posted by Robson at 2024-02-23 08:22 PM | Reply

@#7 ... as the Left still pushing their false narrative. ...

Since you seem to recognize it so easily, please explain what, exactly, you think is the Left's false narrative?

thx.

#10 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-02-23 08:27 PM | Reply

@#9 ... A vote for Biden or any Democrat is a vote against every American. ...

That makes no sense.

Especially Republican voters seem to vote against their own interests.

#11 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-02-23 08:29 PM | Reply

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#12 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-02-23 08:31 PM | Reply

It's been obvious since trump picked a russian asset as his campaign manager and then rewrote the GOP platform to let putin keep crimea. Then he picked putin's favorite general to be secretary of defense, putin's favorite oil exec as secretary of state, and immediately tried to lift sanctions on russia.

PS mueller was barred from investigating trump's financial ties to russia.

#13 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-02-23 10:33 PM | Reply

A vote for Biden or any Democrat is a vote against every American.

#9 | Posted by Robson

you mean its a vote against modern nazis.

#14 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-02-23 10:34 PM | Reply

#9 | Posted by Robson

A couple week ago I saw that same comment, word for word, on a Republican board.

Looks like bullet point memos from the troll farm are getting recycled?

#15 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-02-23 11:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#13 ... PS mueller was barred from investigating trump's financial ties to russia. ...

Yup.

Mr Mueller was prevented from investigating some aspects of fmr Pres Trump back then.

But, even with that restriction, the evidence Mr Mueller's investigation uncovered was substantial and damning.

Then there came the report from the Republican-led Senate committee that was even more damning on fmr Pres Trump.

#16 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-02-23 11:17 PM | Reply

@#14 ... you mean its a vote against modern nazis. ...

When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.
--- Unknown

#17 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-02-23 11:20 PM | Reply

@#15 ... Looks like bullet point memos from the troll farm are getting recycled? ...

Back in the day, when I ran a message board, one trait I used to try to identify trolls was the, what I call, the "post and run" aspect.

That is, trolls seem to post some odd post, and then just disappear when a counter in the opinion was presented, apparently afraid to back up what they had posted.

I see a few alias here that seem to subscribe to that post and run characteristic.

And I do note that I recognize that some folk may just ~sign off for the night~ and the distinguishing of those good folk from the trolls is what besets a message board sysop.

Hey, RCade, a major shout out to you here.... :)

Been there, had to deal with that....

Hated it.

#18 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-02-23 11:31 PM | Reply

Lamp,are you one of these trolls? Askin' for a friend.

#19 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2024-02-24 08:03 AM | Reply

Lamp,are you one of these trolls? Askin' for a friend.

#19 | Posted by Effeteposer

The trolls work for putin and try to elect putin's puppet.

#20 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-02-24 04:23 PM | Reply

Putskin has revealed his desire for the next President.
He made it clear he wants bitem because bitem is more predictable and experienced.
Or was this moe a that fake nooz bs?

#21 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2024-02-25 10:25 AM | Reply

#21 | POSTED BY PHESTEROBOYLE

You and Trump are no match for Putin.

Buy some knee pads. You'll both need some.

#22 | Posted by Zed at 2024-02-25 10:38 AM | Reply

Zed, do you live in a vacuum or do you get your news from snl?
Putskin wants bitem. He's doesn't want Trump bc he can't be controlled like bitem.

#23 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2024-02-25 10:44 AM | Reply

Putskin wants bitem.

#23 | POSTED BY PHESTEROBOYLE

Putin wants you.

#24 | Posted by Zed at 2024-02-25 10:48 AM | Reply

He's doesn't want Trump bc he can't be controlled like bitem.

#23 | POSTED BY PHESTEROBOYLE

I could control Trump, if I had a conversation with him.

Donald Trump is mentally ill.

#25 | Posted by Zed at 2024-02-25 10:51 AM | Reply

"Putin wants you.
#24 | POSTED BY ZED "

I'd invite him to dinner but the kgb wouldn't allow it, I have guns, I'm old with nothing to lose.
Ergo, like Trump, I can't be controlled.

#26 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2024-02-25 11:07 AM | Reply

"I could control Trump, if I had a conversation with him.
#25 | POSTED BY ZED "

Spoken like another stable genius.

#27 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2024-02-25 11:10 AM | Reply

Spoken like another stable genius.

#27 | POSTED BY PHESTEROBOYLE

No genius required. Just flattery.

#28 | Posted by Zed at 2024-02-25 11:51 AM | Reply

Why are their no upper age limits on the Presidency?

Old half senile fools need to be in nursing homes, not the White House.

Both presumptive candidates are Too OLD.

Even Bernie,the best option right now is way too Old.

Anyone who seeks high office is probably not morally or temperamentally a good candidate.

That's the Conundrum.

#29 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2024-02-25 12:16 PM | Reply

"Why are their no upper age limits on the Presidency?"

Because it's not in the constitution. Duh?

...

That's the Conundrum.

#29 | POSTED BY EFFETEPOSER

Welcome to America comrade.

Democracy is messy. Like making sausage. If you get little queasy watching maybe you shouldn't watch how it's made.

But it's still the best most fairest system of governance mankind has come up with yet.

#30 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-02-25 12:31 PM | Reply

"Both presumptive candidates are Too OLD."

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The words are attributed to social activist and former First Lady Eleanor Roosevelt, but I have been unable to find a solid supporting citation. Similar statements have been ascribed to philosopher Socrates and U.S. Naval engineer Hyman Rickover. Would you please examine this topic?
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#31 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-02-25 12:39 PM | Reply

"the evidence Mr Mueller's investigation uncovered was substantial and damning. Then there came the report from the Republican-led Senate committee that was even more damning on fmr Pres Trump."

I'll take Two Things Republicans Have Never Read for $2,000, Ken.

#32 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-02-25 01:42 PM | Reply

But it's still the best most fairest system of governance mankind has come up with yet.

#30 | Posted by donnerboy

Tyranny of the majority is the most bestest systems ever!

#33 | Posted by libs_of_dr at 2024-02-25 02:43 PM | Reply

If the Leader has less than majority approval, is that still 'democracy'?

#34 | Posted by libs_of_dr at 2024-02-25 02:45 PM | Reply

If the Leader has less than majority approval, is that still 'democracy'?

#34 | POSTED BY LIBS_OF_DR AT

Prove to me that you even believe in the concept.

#35 | Posted by Zed at 2024-02-25 02:49 PM | Reply

Why should democracy concern itself with minority rights, when democracy means rule of the majority?

#36 | Posted by libs_of_dr at 2024-02-25 03:01 PM | Reply

@#36 ... when democracy means rule of the majority? ...

Does it?

#37 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-02-25 03:09 PM | Reply

Why should democracy concern itself with minority rights, when democracy means rule of the majority?

#36 | POSTED BY LIBS_OF_DR

Why should a minority be concerned with majority rights if they're the ones with power?

You're trolling. No one's interested in taking you through Civics 101.

#38 | Posted by Zed at 2024-02-25 03:17 PM | Reply

Why should democracy concern itself with minority rights, when democracy means rule of the majority?
#36 | POSTED BY LIBS_OF_DR

Rights belong to all of us. That's the idea behind democracy. Not that we're voting on who's a master and who's a slave.

#39 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-02-25 03:34 PM | Reply

Tyranny of the majority is the most bestest systems ever!

#33 | POSTED BY LIBS_OF_DR

By Shielding British Loyalists From Persecution, the Founders Elevated Principles Over Prejudice

Today, Hamilton's experience defending Loyalists in New York should remind us of two different things. First, for centuries American "insiders" have cleverly and cruelly used law as a tool to exclude, punish, and justify their fears of "outsiders." And, second, that the law can be used, as Hamilton employed it in his post-war practice, to protect even an unpopular few from a powerful majority.

Hamilton did not resolve the persistent tension at the heart of the American experiment in self-government: Should the popular will in our democracy trump the protections of transcendent law grounded in nature, due process, and constitutional principles? But he set an early precedent that defined the country. To be American is to keep up the fight for certain transcendent principles so that they will always prevail over the prejudices of any era.
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Welcome to America comrade!

Now go read a book on Hamilton.

#40 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-02-25 03:43 PM | Reply

I feel your lip service, but how does the dem power treat the repub not-in-power?

#41 | Posted by libs_of_dr at 2024-02-25 03:47 PM | Reply

A government run by Biden is like a government run by Putin. They will say and do anything to win.

Trump is attempting to defend the harmed US citizens from the crooked Biden election cartel just as Alexi Navatny was trying to expose their crooked deep state. Those that cant see deep state corruption with the way this administration operates are blind.

#42 | Posted by Robson at 2024-02-25 03:50 PM | Reply

just as Alexi Navatny (sic) was trying to expose their (Biden) crooked deep state

#42 | POSTED BY ROBSON

You're just one more person slobbering craziness, ROBSON.

Wipe your chin.

#43 | Posted by Zed at 2024-02-25 03:54 PM | Reply

Those that cant see deep state corruption with the way this administration operates are blind.

#42 | POSTED BY ROBSON

Or maybe just saner than you are.

I would love to know how you spend your day.

#44 | Posted by Zed at 2024-02-25 03:55 PM | Reply

Funny how wars started under Bush, obama and biden, but not Trump, go figure.

#45 | Posted by MSgt at 2024-02-25 05:17 PM | Reply

It's funny how you filth-smearing, cop-killing vermin attacked DC.

#46 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-02-25 05:22 PM | Reply