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Wednesday, March 05, 2025

In the past decade, Americans have become increasingly aware that climate change is harming the health of people in the US, according to a new survey.

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In a few short weeks, President Trump has severely damaged the government's ability to fight climate change, upending American environmental policy with moves that could have lasting implications for the country, and the planet.

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-- The New York Times (@nytimes.com) March 2, 2025 at 8:53 AM

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... The survey, which was conducted in December and released Friday, also shows increased trust in physicians, climate scientists, federal agencies like the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Environmental Protection Agency, local public health departments and the World Health Organization for providing information about the health harms of global warming.

These sources of information are under threat: President Donald Trump's administration has proposed cutting most of the EPA's budget and initiated mass firings at the CDC, taken down climate and health information from government websites, frozen or revoked funding for some climate research and interventions, stalled environmental justice initiatives, and proposed rescinding a 16-year-old federal finding that mandates government action on greenhouse gases. Trump also withdrew the US from the World Health Organization and the Paris climate accord.

The survey was conducted by the Yale Program on Climate Change Communication and George Mason University's Center for Climate Change Communication. Edward Maibach, a principal investigator of the survey, said its results are fundamentally irreconcilable with the actions of the Trump administration. ...


#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-04 11:02 PM | Reply

Climate change is a lost issue.

#2 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2025-03-05 05:51 AM | Reply

It would be so wonderful if republican policies only affected republicans. So THEY can cut their taxes to zero, THEY can go bankrupt, THEY can suck on pollution, and THEY can destroy their homes with climate change while the rest of us watch and laugh.

#3 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-03-05 12:54 PM | Reply

#3 Don't worry, you won't be affected by Doge since you are incapable of holding a job.

#4 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-03-05 01:50 PM | Reply

So far the biggest victims of the impact of climate change are red states, so that's a positive.

#5 | Posted by northguy3 at 2025-03-05 05:35 PM | Reply

#5 | Posted by northguy3 at 2025-03-05 05:35 PM | Reply | Flag

LMAO... Now climate change can detect state lines... and it knows which ones to attack...

#6 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-03-05 06:14 PM | Reply

you Dems need to give up the global warming thing. you have been pitching this since the 70s and no one is believing it anymore

oh, I guess the Ozone Layer from the 90s is fixed now. we don't hear anymore about it

#7 | Posted by Maverick at 2025-03-05 06:39 PM | Reply | Funny: 3

oh, I guess the Ozone Layer from the 90s is fixed now. we don't hear anymore about it

#7 | Posted by Maverick at 2025-03-05 06:39 PM | Reply

We banned CFC's and it healed itself. Go read a book.

#8 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-03-05 06:51 PM | Reply

you Dems need to give up the global warming thing. you have been pitching this since the 70s and no one is believing it anymore

oh, I guess the Ozone Layer from the 90s is fixed now. we don't hear anymore about it

#7 | Posted by Maverick

YOu're so stupid that you used an example of GOVERNMENTAL REGULATIONS WORKING to protect the environment, as part of your argument against governmental climate regulations.

This is how dumb you have to be to join trump's cult.

#9 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-03-05 07:42 PM | Reply


Climate change is a lost issue.
#2 | POSTED BY WHATSLEFT

This is what happens when money used for a cause turns into a grift, people get cynical.

Like many Lumper causes, they start out feeling good and well meaning, I am all for fixing the climate, Teslas etal. But eventually grow into a money making greed operation, worse than any capitalist company you could complain about because these organizations just siphon off money with no real purpose other than to pay for jet setting jaunts and conferences.

For instance .

Despite reporting only $100 in total revenue in 2023, a $2 billion grant was awarded to a new nonprofit, Power Forward Communities.
www.epa.gov

There has been a laundry list of "new" green energy companies just created accepting Government money.

Tragic, its worse than big oil really.

#10 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-03-05 08:05 PM | Reply

YOu're so stupid that you used an example of GOVERNMENTAL REGULATIONS WORKING

This is feel good.

Once people knew the Ozone hole was caused by CFCs its useage dropped 50% before the government entered into the Montreal Protocol.

Its ironic too, because did you order a Tesla to "Save the planet", now you disown it just because you don't like the owner.

What -------- artist you are.

#11 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-03-05 08:07 PM | Reply

you Dems need to give up the global warming thing. you have been pitching this since the 70s and no one is believing it anymore

oh, I guess the Ozone Layer from the 90s is fixed now. we don't hear anymore about it

#7 | Posted by Maverick

He can't be serious, right?

Ozone depleted- world took action to limit chlorofluorocarbons-Ozone healed

Acid rain, world took action to control sulfur and carbon emissions from coal plants-problem solved

Rivers bursting into flames-US passes regulations controlling discharges of hazardous compounds into rivers-rivers are healing, no more firey rivers

People's IQs are literally sinking-remove lead from gasoline and paint-IQs rise steadily, likely a positive impact on crime reduction as a side effect

Birds dying at massive scale-ban DDT-birds recover

and on and on and on

Until idiots took over the republican party.

Think how healed the globe would be if Gore had won in 2000, we'd have 24 years of a climate change fight behind.

#12 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-03-05 08:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

I wish I could work up enough empathy to care.

I did, for a long time. I cared a lot.

I don't give a crap about my own species anymore.

We're demonstrably too stupid to be allowed to survive.

Life will continue on this planet long after humans are gone.

FYI - we're not special. There is no god.

It's hilarious that you idiot clowns believe any of that abrahamic nonsense.

No gods, no kings.

Everything happens for a reason.

Physics. That's it. That's all.

#13 | Posted by billy_boy at 2025-03-05 08:31 PM | Reply

re: #12 Truthhurts

Depressing, ugh. So many people dying before they could have or should have because of selfish greedy polluters

#14 | Posted by hamburglar at 2025-03-05 08:55 PM | Reply

So far the biggest victims of the impact of climate change are red states, so that's a positive.

#5 | Posted by northguy3 at 2025-03-05 05:35 PM | Reply | Flag:

So we're just going to ignore this -------- and his mentions of a climate change that wields a map, and brings down the hammer on it's political enemies?

#15 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-03-06 08:55 AM | Reply

15

Yes. What else can anybody do but ignore him? He's made fellow lefties cringe at his posts for years and years on this site.

Everyone can make fun of him but whatever.....

#16 | Posted by eberly at 2025-03-06 09:00 AM | Reply

15 & 16. Two of the biggest trolls on here calling out someone else for trolling? LOL Cute.

#17 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-03-06 09:27 AM | Reply

15 & 16. Two of the biggest trolls on here calling out someone else for trolling? LOL Cute.

#17 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-03-06 09:27 AM | Reply | Flag:

Never once accused NG3 of being a troll.... Tarded, but not a troll.

And thank you for the recognition, I'm sure Eberly is grateful too.

#18 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-03-06 09:37 AM | Reply

Never once accused NG3 of being a troll.... Tarded, but not a troll.
And thank you for the recognition, I'm sure Eberly is grateful too.
#18 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Calling someone "tarded" is trolling them, knucklehead. I'm surprised an expert troll such as yourself doesn't realize that. LOL

#19 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-03-06 09:52 AM | Reply

Climate change is a lost issue.
#2 | POSTED BY WHATSLEFT

Not enough people have died and not enough chaos and disruption and added costs yet due to climate change.

Apparently.

#20 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-03-06 10:10 AM | Reply

Calling someone "tarded" is trolling them, knucklehead. I'm surprised an expert troll such as yourself doesn't realize that. LOL

#19 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-03-06 09:52 AM | Reply | Flag:

Aren't you special (Ed)?

#21 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-03-06 10:46 AM | Reply

Aren't you special (Ed)?
Posted by lfthndthrds

Oh, special eddy. That's an oldie but goodie!

#22 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-03-06 11:10 AM | Reply

Gal, I didn't say anything about trolling. I simply referred to the fact that you cringe at his posts and have for years.

and it's obvious why.

No need to take it anywhere else.

and how dumb do you have to pretend to be by accusing us of being bigger trolls than people you know to be actual trolls?

you're better than that.

#23 | Posted by eberly at 2025-03-06 11:22 AM | Reply

Gal, I didn't say anything about trolling. I simply referred to the fact that you cringe at his posts and have for years.
and it's obvious why.
No need to take it anywhere else.
and how dumb do you have to pretend to be by accusing us of being bigger trolls than people you know to be actual trolls?
you're better than that.
#23 | Posted by eberly

I missed NG3's post when he left. You and Leftie are 2 of the biggest trolls on this site. I'll admit your style of trolling differs from the gay-bashing, swearing, name-calling trolls on both sides of the aisle, but troll you do. Not that this a bad thing, necessarily. It is what it is.

#24 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-03-06 11:32 AM | Reply

I missed NG3's post when he left. You and Leftie are 2 of the biggest trolls on this site.

Don't forget the GasLighter, he's #1 he could post for hours acting all obtuse until the sun comes up.

#25 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-03-06 11:37 AM | Reply

I simply referred to the fact that you cringe at his posts and have for years.
and it's obvious why.

This is true.

My basic take is, this is how these Lumpers really speak, hence they aren't outraged by it.

#26 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-03-06 11:38 AM | Reply

-You and Leftie are 2 of the biggest trolls on this site

okay

#27 | Posted by eberly at 2025-03-06 11:40 AM | Reply

*Not that that is a bad thing, necessarily

#28 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-03-06 11:40 AM | Reply

Calling someone "tarded" is trolling them, knucklehead. I'm surprised an expert troll such as yourself doesn't realize that.

This is false, trolling is just making up post after post acting like you dont understand what the original poster is talking about.

Corky does this, going on and on about "whataboutism" ignoring the actual discussion.
Gaslighter does this too, going socrates about the most obtuse things, posting whole articles on and on and on.
Basically anyone that posts consistently more than say 10 times on particular thread is probably a troll.

#29 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-03-06 11:41 AM | Reply

"So far the biggest victims of the impact of climate change are red states, so that's a positive.

Posted by Northguy"

This after just experiencing one of the worst wildfires ever in California.

I would argue the entire west coast will continue to be extremely vulnerable to these fires.

and that's not a positive...it's just what it is. I don't wish any blue staters to be victims of anything nor do I believe they deserve it.

I guess if Northguy truly feels as though it's a "positive" that red staters are the biggest victims of climate change then fine. He's free to feel any way he wants.

But that's just my opinion......from one of the biggest trolls on this site

#30 | Posted by eberly at 2025-03-06 11:49 AM | Reply

So far the biggest victims of the impact of climate change are red states, so that's a positive.
Posted by Northguy"

This after just experiencing one of the worst wildfires ever in California.
I would argue the entire west coast will continue to be extremely vulnerable to these fires.
and that's not a positive...it's just what it is. I don't wish any blue staters to be victims of anything nor do I believe they deserve it.
I guess if Northguy truly feels as though it's a "positive" that red staters are the biggest victims of climate change then fine. He's free to feel any way he wants.
But that's just my opinion......from one of the biggest trolls on this site
#30 | Posted by eberly

Here's what I think you are missing about NG3's post. Republican politicians and Republican voters tend to be the ones who say climate change isn't real and vote against policies that work to combat it. So, from the perspedtive of folks who believe the effects of climate change are real, it's a positive when red states reap the results of their actions, because maybe then they'll realize the error of their ways. Unfortunately, some people need to learn things the hard way. Also unfortunately, there are plenty of people in red states who don't need this lesson, but they, too, will suffer.

#31 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-03-06 12:03 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

oh, I guess the Ozone Layer from the 90s is fixed now. we don't hear anymore about it

POSTED BY MAVERICK

You can find out the status of the ozone layer in 5 seconds. But first you have to care enough to spend 5 seconds of your life to find out.

FYI. A new MIT-led study confirms that the Antarctic ozone layer is healing, as a direct result of global efforts to reduce ozone-depleting substances. Scientists including the MIT team have observed signs of ozone recovery in the past.1 day ago

#32 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-03-06 12:15 PM | Reply

I've talked about my family who are farmers being Trump voters. Now if it turns out that they are hurt by some of Trump's policies that are affecting farmers, will I think that is a positive development? Yes and no. I don't want my family or anyone else to be hurt by Trump, but if millions of people are going to be hurt, then why should they be exempt? Maybe if they personally feel the pain his policies are bringing to so many, they will realize they made a mistake and speak up against them. Will they deserve that pain? Again, yes and no. Yes, they deserve to feel the ramifications of their votes. No, they don't desere to suffer anymore than I do or you do or any other American does. I think a lot of non-Trump voters feel this way. Maybe I'm wrong and that's not the thinking that was behind NG3's post, but that's the way I read it.

#33 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-03-06 12:16 PM | Reply

"I guess the Ozone Layer from the 90s is fixed now. we don't hear anymore about it"

It is fixed. What's more, we fixed it with Cap And Trade.

And that's why you don't hear about it.

Because your religion tells you Cap And Trade doesn't work.

You aren't even of average intelligence, are you? What did you get on the ASVAB?

#34 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-03-06 12:22 PM | Reply

It is fixed.

Yeah no.

It's not really "fixed".

It IS healing tho. And as long as it is healing and not disappearing again then we are going in the right direction and there is no need to make any issue out it. Which is it course why Maverick has not heard anything about it lately.

Also because he is too lazy apparently to google it. Or ask his personal AI.

#35 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-03-06 12:32 PM | Reply

31

yeah, I'm aware of all of that. That's been batted about here forever.

NG3 knows that as well. He considers it a "positive" that certain folks are victims. Fair enough.

But I don't think it's even accurate considering what's actually happened.

But I'm shocked you're conversing with one of the biggest trolls on this site

must be a slow day for you.

#36 | Posted by eberly at 2025-03-06 12:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Its ironic too, because did you order a Tesla to "Save the planet", now you disown it just because you don't like the owner.

What -------- artist you are.

#11 | Posted by oneironaut

My logic is consistent - I bought a tesla do do my part to save the planet. I sold it when the company began using it's profits to support the pollution party.

Whereas you probably made fun of tesla until elon came out as a nazi.

#37 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-03-06 01:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

you Dems need to give up the global warming thing. you have been pitching this since the 70s and no one is believing it anymore

#7 | Posted by Maverick

*no one at the local ------ convention.

You should look at a graph of global temps since the 70s.

#38 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-03-06 01:41 PM | Reply

"no one is believing it anymore"

What do you mean, anymore?

You never believed it.

Just like you don't believe breathing in 1% CO2 is fatal.

It's just because you aren't very smart.

#39 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-03-06 01:50 PM | Reply

But I'm shocked you're conversing with one of the biggest trolls on this site
must be a slow day for you.
#36 | Posted by eberly

You are one of the biggest trolls on this site, but unlike some of the other trolls that's not all you do here.

#40 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-03-06 02:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The entire concept of climate change is fraudulent because it is not proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. It was created by politicians for political purposes. Unless it is proven it should never be used as Biden to destroy the couture and economy. The concept has been repeatedly been proven wrong.

#41 | Posted by Robson at 2025-03-06 06:14 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

The entire concept of climate change is fraudulent because it is not proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. It was created by politicians for political purposes. Unless it is proven it should never be used as Biden to destroy the couture and economy. The concept has been repeatedly been proven wrong.

#41 | Posted by Robson

What grade did you make it to before it became too hard?

#42 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-03-06 06:24 PM | Reply

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#43 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-06 06:27 PM | Reply

#7 | Posted by Maverick

He can't be serious, right?

Unfortunately he is.

#44 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-03-07 01:59 PM | Reply

The entire concept of climate change is fraudulent because it is not proven beyond a shadow of a doubt.

That's a pretty high standard you got there Robotson.

Can anything be proved beyond a shadow of a doubt except maybe mathmatical proofs ?

The concept has been repeatedly been proven wrong.

Haven't seen it proved "wrong" once yet.

Yeah we'll need to see your work on that particular alternative fact.

#45 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-03-07 02:13 PM | Reply

#41 | Posted by Robson

---- off idiot.

#46 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-03-07 04:09 PM | Reply

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