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WRONG! It still hasn't been determined.

#1 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-06-27 10:27 AM | Reply

Your reading comprehension SUCKS

#2 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-06-27 10:29 AM | Reply

No it really doesn't, you made an assertion with your headline.

#3 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-06-27 10:29 AM | Reply

It does. Read the whole thing first

#4 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-06-27 10:31 AM | Reply

4 | Posted by LauraMohr

it's okay....I was wrong...once.

#5 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-06-27 05:59 PM | Reply

it's okay....I was wrong...once.

#5 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-06-27 05:59 PM | Reply | Flag

I thought I was wrong once... Turns out I was just mistaken.

#6 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-06-28 03:02 PM | Reply

Changing topics, since this thread went nowhere.

In another discussion, Rcade said:
"I don't know what book Bill is frightened of. There's a lot of fear of books from right wingers who never read any."

The topic was progressiveness, and I brought up the fact that schools are putting books in libraries that contain explicit content. Books that walk kids through gay sexual acts step by step. That's not made up, that's fact. Rcade's response? A smug, lazy jab to avoid the actual issue.

So here's a real example that aired on national television.

I watched a recent Steve Wilkos episode where a woman brought her fiance on the show because of something she'd heard about his past. Years earlier, he and another boy had reportedly been caught in a sexual situation. She wanted him hooked up to a lie detector to find out if he was gay.

The test said he wasn't. It was something from his youth, and it should've stayed private. But instead, she dragged it onto national TV and humiliated him and by extension, the other boy involved too. That was wrong. Flat-out wrong. And I'm sure she saw nothing wrong with doing this.

She has serious boundary issues. If I were the guy's parent, I'd be urging him to think long and hard about whether this marriage makes sense. Even Steve Wilkos looked unsure by the end. The guy looked humiliated and he should've been, not for the past, but for what she just did to him.

This is what I mean by the risks and dangers of progressiveness. It's not about being anti-gay. It's about the message being pushed, especially to kids, that sexual experimentation is just casual. That it's no big deal. "Try both, see what you like." And if you question it? You're labeled a bigot or supporting censorship or something worse.

But this isn't about fear. It's about boundaries. It's about pushing back on the idea that childhood is some kind of identity lab to be used for ideological and political purposes. And now the rights of parents are coming into play.

Progressiveness used to mean equal rights. Now it means no rules. And if you're not okay with that? You're the problem.

Well, some of us aren't buying that anymore.

#7 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-28 03:13 PM | Reply

This is what I mean by the risks and dangers of progressiveness. It's not about being anti-gay. It's about the message being pushed, especially to kids, that sexual experimentation is just casual. That it's no big deal. "Try both, see what you like." And if you question it? You're labeled a bigot or supporting censorship or something worse.
But this isn't about fear. It's about boundaries. It's about pushing back on the idea that childhood is some kind of identity lab to be used for ideological and political purposes. And now the rights of parents are coming into play.
Progressiveness used to mean equal rights. Now it means no rules. And if you're not okay with that? You're the problem.
Well, some of us aren't buying that anymore.

Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-28 03:13 PM | Reply

Funny that heterosexual sexual exploration in youth is considered no big deal yet gay sexual exploration of the homosexual variety gets labeled very bad. It's not progressiveness that's the problem. It's right wing bigotry that is the problem.

#8 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-06-28 03:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Laura,

"Funny that heterosexual sexual exploration in youth is considered no big deal"

Who says?

Just more of your progressive training.

You're so up to the neck in it you have no idea how lost you are.

#9 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-28 04:06 PM | Reply

Laura,
"Funny that heterosexual sexual exploration in youth is considered no big deal"
Who says?
Just more of your progressive training.
You're so up to the neck in it you have no idea how lost you are.

Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-28 04:06 PM | Reply

Really BillJohnson?? I'd refrain from talking if I were you. Bet you experimented with sex in your youth. Didn't you hypocrite.

#10 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-06-28 04:10 PM | Reply

Laura,

I'm not judging anyone.

You can't speak to progressives without your sort of comeback.

No...no one is claiming I'm without fault or I did't do things too.

But at least I wasn't brought up being taught it's ok.

That sort of teaching actually encourages experimentation.

Young kids are hungering for someone to tell them, "no...it's not ok or good for you to experiment...try to refrain".

#11 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-28 04:23 PM | Reply

Laura,

I'm convinced that many young people today, despite what the media tries to sell, are actually craving boundaries.

Not because they want to be restricted or ordered around.

No, it's because they're hungry to understand where the limits of propriety are. They want to learn how to become better adults.

They want values, real ones, and not the hollow, aimless, rudderless values pushed by the so called adults around them.

They want to know what "normal" looks like, because no one's showing them anymore.

#12 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-28 05:28 PM | Reply

"It's about the message being pushed, especially to kids, that sexual experimentation is just casual. That it's no big deal. "Try both, see what you like." And if you question it? You're labeled a bigot or supporting censorship or something worse."

Can I see this message, and who's pushing it?
I don't believe you, but I will if you can show me.

#13 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-28 05:46 PM | Reply

Snoofy,

You don't see anything except what you want to see.

If I did provide a link, you'd reinterpret it to mean something else.

#14 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-28 06:17 PM | Reply

"You don't see anything except what you want to see."

I certainly don't see you being able support your claim.

Confidence has never been your thing, but come on. I ask you for a citation and you fold like a lawn chair.

#15 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-28 06:21 PM | Reply

Snoofy,

I doubt you got the meaning of what I just said do I'll make it clear.

I'm not in the mood for any games or insults and won't talk to you.

#16 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-28 06:21 PM | Reply

Asking you to cite your sources is not a game.

What you're doing -- making a claim but not being able to support it, is a game.

#17 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-28 06:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

If I did provide a link, you'd reinterpret it to mean something else.
#14 | Posted by BillJohnson

True

#18 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-06-28 06:38 PM | Reply

If I did provide a link, you'd ...
#14 | POSTED BY BULLJOHNSON

We'd laugh at you for getting all your opinions from fringe rightwing propaganda sources.

#19 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-06-28 09:41 PM | Reply

Asking you to cite your sources is not a game.

What you're doing -- making a claim but not being able to support it, is a game.

#17 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

References? MAGA don't need no stinkin references!

They just make it up as they go.

Without "Ipse Dixit" these morons would have nothing to say.

When they do provide sources and references it is just to some other idiot saying the same moronic things.

#20 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-06-29 12:46 PM | Reply

Asking you to cite your sources is not a game.

I cited a source yesterday showing Christ wouldnt have been for gays. But you did just what Bill is saying.

Jesus was God Himself. God said Homosexuality is a sin. I proved that to you.

#21 | Posted by boaz at 2025-06-29 02:37 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I cited a source yesterday showing Christ wouldnt have been for gays

You cited a source?

Congratulations you ------- ------.

You really are an idiot.

Just dumb.

Abysmally stupid.

But, what more can be expected from a hate filled piece of ----, like you.

#22 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-06-29 02:43 PM | Reply

Well, you did ask for a source. I gave you one. Proved my point.

But instead of you researching, and coming to a correct conclusion, you just scream "no it isnt!" and hurl insults.

All you people have done is hurl insults at Bill. He hasnt insulted not one of you. He's made valid points, but instead of genuinely talking the debate, you just insult him.

But that's the progressive playbook. And also, why you lost.

#23 | Posted by boaz at 2025-06-29 02:48 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

instead of genuinely talking the debate, you just insult him.

But that's the progressive playbook. And also, why you lost.

#23 | POSTED BY BOAZ

Have you ever even listened to a Trumpy rant? Or his acolytes?

Mostly insults and rambling hateful nonsense. Not a genuine debate or discussion ever.

But sure. That's all them ebil Dems do.

And you think we lost because our insults just were not as good as Trumpy's insults!

Umm ok maggat.

#24 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-06-29 02:55 PM | Reply

- God said Homosexuality is sin

Not exactly, but let's look at what we know are, including:

"pride, greed, wrath, envy, lust, gluttony, and sloth."

How many of those are you guilty of, Major B?

And why do you condemn others for their imperfections, against both Jesus' and Pauls' commandments, and ignore your own?

Perhaps there should be a Law in this country against yours....

#25 | Posted by Corky at 2025-06-29 03:07 PM | Reply

"God said Homosexuality is sin"

We have no evidence that a God has ever said any such thing.

All you have are the words of another man.

From the Bronze Age.

No wonder progress scares the poop outa ya.

#26 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-06-29 03:14 PM | Reply

Boaz went to Afghanistan and was jealous about how good the Taliban has it.

So he wants to bring that to America.

#27 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-06-29 03:22 PM | Reply

Mostly insults and rambling hateful nonsense. Not a genuine debate or discussion ever.

I was talking about THIS thread, Donner. Stop moving the goal posts.

#28 | Posted by boaz at 2025-06-29 03:36 PM | Reply

How many of those are you guilty of, Major B?

None of your business. That doesnt mean I cant speak the observable truth from the bible.

See what I mean? You cant argue the subject, you have to attack the poster. Stuff like this is why progressive sites like this are failing. I try to stay here and talk to you guys, but all I get are insults.

#29 | Posted by boaz at 2025-06-29 03:38 PM | Reply

And why do you condemn others for their imperfections, against both Jesus' and Pauls' commandments, and ignore your own?

None of your business. And I'm not "condemn" anyone. I'm just pointing out what God said. And if you are as religious as you say you are Corky, you would know what I am saying is true.

Liberals/progressives dont like for someone to tell them what they are doing wrong, just like children.

#30 | Posted by boaz at 2025-06-29 03:42 PM | Reply

- what I am saying is true.

What you are saying is what a dull 5 year old would say after his first bible class.

Let me tell you what your bible says; it says that in the End Times the Christians in the mightiest nation on Earth will fall away from the Church and follow a lying, criminal cult leader instead.

Sound familiar?

#31 | Posted by Corky at 2025-06-29 03:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Who gives a ---- Corky? If we are following the bible, I really dont care.

#32 | Posted by boaz at 2025-06-29 04:16 PM | Reply

When are Melanoma and Barron being deported?

#33 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-06-29 04:19 PM | Reply

- I really dont care.

And there we have it.

#34 | Posted by Corky at 2025-06-29 04:24 PM | Reply

The point, Major, is that your bible tells you NOT to follow said lying criminal cult leader... that the literally dozens of verses about the Man of Sin will tell you WHO that is, and not to follow him to, 'perdition'.

antichrist45.com

see #14 in the text below the video

#35 | Posted by Corky at 2025-06-29 04:29 PM | Reply

#32
What a disgusting caricature you've become.

#36 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-06-29 04:29 PM | Reply

was talking about THIS thread, Donner. Stop moving the goal posts.

POSTED BY BOAZ

Liar. Regardless this thread does not exist in a vacuum.

You say that about liberals or anyone you disagree with in just about every thread. Kinda tired of all your hate.

..

If we are following the bible, I really dont care.
#32 | POSTED BY BOAZ

We know.

And you obviously don't " follow the Bible".

You pick and choose what you want to use as an excuse to promote more harm or violence against the Other.

As it has been for millennia.

#37 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-06-29 04:47 PM | Reply

? If we are following the bible, I really dont care."

What a riot.

You can't name two Commandments Trump follows. Nor can you name any of the six markers of the Anti-Christ he's not.

#38 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-06-29 05:27 PM | Reply

"I cited a source yesterday showing Christ wouldnt have been for gays."

It's a bit of a mixed bag, really.

Even if we take your interpretation of Scripture to mean Jesus was opposed to same sex adult relations, and not, say, adults exploiting children. That same sex adult relations are a sin:

Christ died for our sins. Being gay is a sin. Christ is 100% for the gays, murderers, rapists, and even those poor soldiers sent off to war, so long as they take Christ into their hearts.

#39 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-29 05:48 PM | Reply

On topic, Laura, I.m going with 9-0. If there's a dissenter it will be Clarence. How soon do you think they will take on that actual matter?

#40 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2025-06-30 01:56 AM | Reply

"If there's a dissenter it will be Clarence."

Naturally

the descendant of the slaves
does the Boomer thing
and pulls up the ladder
that gave his ancestors citizenship.

It's actually an endorsement of White Nationalism.

To say the Blacks have Assimilated because they stopped getting imported by whites in 1808.

They're ours.

Their culture bears no resemblance from where they came; most of them don't know.

It's the Johnny Come Latelys the Browns, every shade from Mexican to Muslim, that bring their culture eitt yhrm.

There's your problem, America.

#41 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-30 02:31 AM | Reply

Bring their culture with them.

#42 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-30 02:32 AM | Reply

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