Pushing back against the Medicaid lie

Monday, July 14, 2025

Democrats were virtually salivating as they unanimously voted against Donald Trump's One Big Beautiful Bill two weeks ago, which certainly should give pause to Republicans as they prepare for the midterms and the 2028 elections beyond. What gives the Democrats hope that they can campaign effectively against Trump's mega-bill? Is it the fact that Republicans were able to make permanent the 2017 tax cuts? Are they planning to campaign against the "no tax on tips" provision that even Kamala Harris supported? Will they claim that funding border security and mass deportation of illegal aliens is somehow bad for the country? No, no, and no. Democrats are not idiots. They know they have the short straw on all of those 80-20 issues. So they are going back to the same issue they have demagogued since 2008 " health care

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"to have them register twice a year for these benefits is not a burden."

It very obviously creates the burden
of having to do something twice a year
that they did not have to do before.

Burdening other people isn't a burden, when you're a Republican.

#1 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-14 02:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Hassett also explained that the best way to get insurance is to get a job, and so if the Trump economy stimulates growth, it will help people to happily leave Medicaid after they gain employment."

Trump2 has already shown that won't be happening.

Biden saw 2M job growth in his first six months.

Trump2 saw 1.5M job growth in his first six months.

#2 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-14 03:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Jeff really is dumb enough to believe ANYTHING.

No Taxes on Tips? Not in the bill. Just a deduction. It's doesn't apply to FICA. And its temporary. Worse, only the top 60% of workers who get tips will qualify because 40% don't make enough to pay federal taxes. But don't worry, we are cutting their Medicaid, Food Stamps, and Obamacare premium reductions to make them even worse off.

Immigration? Yeah, the public is now turning against Trump on it.

So let's get to the crazy stuff this idiot said:
Medicaid will still exist for some people therefore everyone will be happy and fine.
Food Stamps will still exist for some people therefore everyone will be happy and fine.
Obamacare premium reductions will still exist for some people even if reductions are lower therefore everyone will be happy and fine.

Oh, and now there will be a LOT more paperwork to qualify...if something doesn't go wrong in filing the paperwork.

I'm sure everyone will be HAPPY and FINE. And no rural hospitals will close. Definitely...

#3 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-07-14 03:28 PM | Reply

Well, we can certainly count on Heffy to post articles by racist POSs.

"Frank Miele (born c.1955) is an American journalist and senior editor at Skeptic. He is best known for his advocacy of the concept of race, as well as defending the hereditarian hypotheses in its relation to race and intelligence."

en.wikipedia.org

#4 | Posted by Corky at 2025-07-14 04:08 PM | Reply

#3. You didn't actually refute anything.

#5 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-07-14 05:06 PM | Reply

to have them register twice a year for these benefits is not a burden.

Of course it is. That's why Republicans added it. So they can kick people off as often as possible.

Whoever wrote the above sentence is abysmally ignorant about the subject and is making assumptions.

Assumptions which callous people, like BullBringer, blindly accept as fact.

#6 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-07-14 05:14 PM | Reply

As someone who is on Medicaid I am uniquely qualified to answer this question. It is a burden to do this twice a year. Not only is it burdensome it's worrisome as well. You have an unnecessary worry that you might be cut off from health insurance and being in a nursing home you worry about getting kicked out of it. It's painfully obvious to me that they want everyone off of Medicaid. If I lose that. I lose the roof over my head. You don't know what you're talking about Jeff. You really don't.

#7 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-07-14 05:15 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You don't know what you're talking about Jeff. You really don't.
#7 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR

He never does.

But, he is motivated by hate.

Which is what makes him such a staunch Republican.

#8 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-07-14 05:17 PM | Reply

Can I also point out they want you to physically come into the office on days that you're either supposed to be at work, or looking for work.

How exactly is that supposed to happen? Most people in bottom tier jobs don't just get time off for the asking.

The point is, it's not supposed to happen. Those people will miss their appointment and Republicans will say it's because they're lazy N------.

#9 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-14 05:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#3. You didn't actually refute anything.
#5 | Posted by BellRinger

Neither did you. All you said is:
Yes, there are cuts to Medicaid, specifically because of the new requirements.

#10 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-14 05:42 PM | Reply

" to have them register twice a year for these benefits is not a burden."

This is the same lie as with voting:

#11 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-07-14 05:50 PM | Reply

"An additional barrier won't be an additional barrier."

#12 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-07-14 05:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Another BS bellringer thread.

An 800 billion cut is a cut no matter how much you lie. Remember folks, lil jeffy lied about voting for trump. Said he didn't in February, then admitted he did in July. Months of lying.

#13 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-07-14 05:54 PM | Reply

"Can I also point out they want you to physically come into the office on days that you're either supposed to be at work,

How exactly is that supposed to happen? Most people in bottom tier jobs don't just get time off for the asking."

This.

All of it.

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-07-14 05:55 PM | Reply

The left-leaning Congressional Budget Office supplied some of that data,

LOL. Article is trash.

#15 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-07-14 05:56 PM | Reply

" Pushing Back Against the Big Medicaid Lie"

Where's the lie? There is NO MATH that cuts nearly a trillion dollars without slashing Medicaid.

And don't look now, but when 4% annual growth doesn't materialize, MediCARE will be forced into sequestration cuts.

The author is a moron, as are math illiterates who can't see through the bu11schitt.

#16 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-07-14 06:01 PM | Reply

The left-leaning Congressional Budget Office

Yawn.

S*&^ in, s*&^ out.

#17 | Posted by jpw at 2025-07-14 06:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#3. You didn't actually refute anything.

#5 | Posted by BellRinger

You don't have to refute a turd. You just point out that it's a turd.

#18 | Posted by jpw at 2025-07-14 06:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Here's the thing, lil jeffy.

When all of the predictions come to pass, you'll find some other mealy mouthed bulls(*& to spew instead of acknowledging you were wrong and that you're almost always wrong.

And you also do this with the full awareness that you intentionally leave out the other half of the equation-the decimation of the economy by the policies being pushed.

The people you vote for, go to bat for and carry water for are always a net negative for the people of this country. Your policy choices are garbage with long track records of failure and your end result always a callous disregard for the people around you.

#19 | Posted by jpw at 2025-07-14 06:25 PM | Reply

" An 800 billion cut"

A 20% increase over 10 years is not a "cut".

#20 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-07-14 06:52 PM | Reply

" #19 | POSTED BY JPW AT 2025-07-14 06:25 PM | REPLY | FLAG"

When it comes to economics and geopolitics you are so in over your head that it's painful to watch.

Stay in your lane - mucus, beakers and truck stop bathrooms.

#21 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-07-14 06:57 PM | Reply

LOL. He didn't even touch on geopolitics.

#22 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-14 06:58 PM | Reply

jeff uses a lot of words he doesn't understand. like "values" and "principles".

or "groomer" and "strawman".

word salas from an intellectual lightweight.

#23 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-07-14 07:00 PM | Reply

Stay in your "trunk stop" gay joke lane, jeffy.

#24 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-07-14 07:03 PM | Reply

A 20% increase over 10 years is not a "cut".
#20 | Posted by BellRinger

It isn't?

What's the enrollment increase in the next ten years, more than 20%?

What's the inflation over the next ten years, less than 20%? So you're guaranteeing a two percent inflation rate per year for the next decade -- technically lower, owing to compound interest.

#25 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-14 07:06 PM | Reply

"Biden saw 2M job growth in his first six months.
Trump2 saw 1.5M job growth in his first six months.
#2 | Posted by snoofy"

In 4 years, Biden could not get US native born employment up to the levels Trump had pre-covid - in fact, he lost about 1.2M native born workers by the time he was put out to pasture.

Trump, in 6 months, brought 2M native born workers back into employment and had the highest real wage gains in the last 60 years.

Go back about fear mongering about able bodied people that refuse to work losing Medicaid because the jobs thing is a loser for Democrats.

#26 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-14 07:13 PM | Reply

"Those people will miss their appointment and Republicans will say it's because they're lazy N------.
#9 | Posted by snoofy"

I have never met someone in real life that tried so hard to use the n-word. This thread wasn't even about race and nobody even mentioned black people but racist snoofy couldn't resist passing on the chance to throw out an n-bomb even it has zero relevance to the discussion.

For the liberals claiming to hate racism, you sure do have a lot of racists in your party.

#27 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-14 07:16 PM | Reply

When it comes to economics and geopolitics you are so in over your head that it's painful to watch.

lol you are literally wrong every time because you're easily fooled by people banking on your gullibility.

Which is why you post s^%* like this.

#28 | Posted by jpw at 2025-07-14 07:18 PM | Reply

the highest real wage gains in the last 60 years.

What janky math did you use this time?

#29 | Posted by jpw at 2025-07-14 07:19 PM | Reply

"you are so in over your head that it's painful to watch."

Normally this is where you would cite the extremely stupid things he said...

It's hard to make an Argument From Authority when the only thing you're an authority on is farting on your wife.

#30 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-14 07:20 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Don't forget Barbecue.

#31 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-07-14 07:23 PM | Reply

BBQ? Not anymore.
He pretends he isn't that person any more.
Dishonesty is his strongest value.

#32 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-14 07:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"I have never met someone in real life that tried so hard to use the n-word."

Because you're lazy.

#33 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-14 07:28 PM | Reply

"This thread wasn't even about race"

Of course it's about race. Cuts to Medicaid will affect blacks harder than whites.

"and nobody even mentioned black people"

If you had it your way, black people wouldn't be allowed into the United States of America any more.

#34 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-14 07:31 PM | Reply

"Trump, in 6 months, brought 2M native born workers back into employment and had the highest real wage gains in the last 60 years."

At the cost of 500K foreign born workers jobs lost.
Net gain 1.5M jobs.

Biden saw 2M job gains at that time, split 1M for native born workers and 1M foreign.
Net gain 2M jobs.

Only a racist could say 1.5M job growth is better than 2M job growth.

Only a racist could say hurting foreigners to help native born is better than just helping everyone.

#35 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-14 07:36 PM | Reply

Here's the bankruptcy-prone orange turd's real jobs legacy.

finance.yahoo.com

#36 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-07-14 07:43 PM | Reply

"What janky math did you use this time?
#29 | Posted by jpw"

Wage Gains (as reported by the BLS) - Inflation (as reported by the BLS) with the story already posted on this very website. drudge.com

Now only that, YOU commented in that very thread 20 times.

No one has the amount of time to repeatedly prove points that have ALREADY BEEN PROVEN - you, along with -------- like lamplighter appear to either be:

1.) Mentally retarded and thus incapable of understanding basic data/analysis
2.) Lacking a memory that extends for more than 1 hour into the past

I leave it to you to clarify for the class which is true in your case. Personally, I think it is probably #1. I think you probably huffed spray paint as a kid and cooked your brain.

#37 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-14 07:49 PM | Reply

"Only a racist could say 1.5M job growth is better than 2M job growth."

Here are the numbers for ------- Biden:

Foreign Born workers (fred.stlouisfed.org)
27,693,000: Trump peak pre-covid
31,774,000: Jan'2025
4,081,000 net gains under Biden

Native Born workers (fred.stlouisfed.org)
131,721,000: Trump peak pre-covid
130,573,000: Jan'2025
-1,148,000 net loss under Biden

Under Biden, he burned over 1M native born worker jobs but imported 10M illegals and grew their employment by over 4M. If you want to know why your unskilled minimum wage jobs didn't give you a raise - this is why. Now, in your case, the Guatemalan with a 5th grade education is probably smarter (and definitely harder working) than you. So, him getting the job and raise over you was probably justified.

"Only a racist could say hurting foreigners to help native born is better than just helping everyone.
#35 | Posted by snoofy"

As an AMERICAN, I prioritize giving jobs to AMERICANS that are already living here - not importing a permanent underclass to make life harder for those AMERICANS that already live here.

#38 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-14 08:01 PM | Reply

"#35 | Posted by snoofy"

Where did you run off to -------? Did you forget you were in the real world and use the n-word out in public and received and attitude adjustment as a result? Still picking up your Indian corn colored teeth off the sidewalk?

#39 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-14 09:42 PM | Reply

ScottS is certainly an angry little boy.

#40 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-07-14 09:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#40

Apparently he's afraid that some kid getting healthcare from Medicaid might survive to grow up to be a Traditional American rather than a Trump New Fascist.

Or maybe just that they would grow up at all.

#41 | Posted by Corky at 2025-07-14 09:58 PM | Reply

Actually, as I recall, his posts always sound like Rosanne Barr on her period.

#42 | Posted by Corky at 2025-07-14 10:06 PM | Reply

"#40 | Posted by REDIAL"

I sound angry because I call out your douchebag liberal posters where they throw out an n-bomb at every occasion? Sorry, I grew up in the 80's/90's where the US was effectively post-racial. I find it offensive when old ass, white, -------, liberal hippies throw out n-bombs thinking it makes them sound 'edgy' or that they have a free pass to use it by virtue of them being a liberal. You, along with our prior homosexual, drug-abusing, Kenyan-born president have intentionally set back race relations in this country by 40 years solely because is the one issue that you think you can still use politically.

The real question is - why did not a single liberal poster on here tell Snoofy to cool it with the n-bombs?

#43 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-14 10:12 PM | Reply

"why did not a single liberal poster on here tell Snoofy to cool it with the n-bombs?

#43 | POSTED BY SCOTTS AT 2025-07-14 10:12 PM"

Because it's become a team sport. Snoofy plays for the left and is therefore exempt.

Look at LegallyGivesHead. That cretin will tell people to kill themselves in horrible ways and is revered. If I quote a statistic and am off by .01 they unleash rabid hatred.

#44 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-07-14 11:05 PM | Reply

tell Snoofy to cool it with the n-bombs?
#43 | POSTED BY SCOTTS

Which post number are you referring to?

#45 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-07-14 11:08 PM | Reply

"#45 | Posted by ClownShack"

#9 -------. Now that you know - are you going to call him out for his racism?

#46 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-15 12:38 AM | Reply

"Because it's become a team sport. Snoofy plays for the left and is therefore exempt.
#44 | Posted by BellRinger"

Bingo - which is why the Left is all about virtue signaling but not actually believing in what they say. Sorta like how they booted the illegals off of Martha's Vineyard.

#47 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-15 12:39 AM | Reply

why did not a single liberal poster on here tell Snoofy to cool it with the n-bombs?
#43 | Posted by ScottS

Why do you think it's okay to say n-bombs but it's not okay for me to say n-----?
Maybe JeffJ can explain that too.

#48 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-15 12:43 AM | Reply

You realize I'm typing out n minus minus minus minus minus minus, right?

Maybe you are too much of a victim to figure that out.

#49 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-15 12:43 AM | Reply

There are no N Bombs in #9.

That's just you.

Projecting.

Well done.

#50 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-07-15 12:44 AM | Reply

" A 20% increase over 10 years is not a "cut""

For medical expenses?!?

You wouldn't believe someone could flunk an Econ 101 midterm with a single statement ...

But there it is.

Annual medical inflation would have to be less than 1.85%. And ZERO increased need.

Just one question: In what bizzarro world?

#51 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-07-15 12:48 AM | Reply

Alex Trebek: "What is a 7 letter word starting with "N"?"

ScottS: "The only word I can think of is the one I usually use for Black people."

#52 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-07-15 12:49 AM | Reply

"#9 -------. Now that you know - are you going to call him out for his racism?

#46 | POSTED BY SCOTTS AT 2025-07-15 12:38 AM | REPLY"

snoofy is saying that republicans view Black people as n-words.

jfc its not hard to figure out.

#53 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-07-15 12:52 AM | Reply

" I grew up in the 80's/90's where the US was effectively post-racial."

We're not that NOW, you pampered bubble boy poser.

#54 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-07-15 12:58 AM | Reply

"There are no N Bombs in #9.
#50 | Posted by ClownShack"

Yeah, I am sure he is referring to ------- you -------.

#55 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-15 01:26 AM | Reply

Maybe -------.

Or Nitwits.

Nimrods.

Nippers.

Naysays.

Newsies.

Nestors.

Or even Nibblers.

#56 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-07-15 01:39 AM | Reply

"I grew up in the 80's/90's where the US was effectively post-racial."

Then the Democrats went racial and elected Obama.

#57 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-15 01:44 AM | Reply

-------.
Nitwits.
Nimrods.
Nippers.
Naysays.
Newsies.
Nestors.
Nibblers.

You just named all the Keebler Elves!

#58 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-15 01:46 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Then the Democrats went racial and elected Obama.
#57 | Posted by snoofy"

Electing Obama was proof positive of a post-racial country.

Then, Obama's policies didn't return their promised payoffs so Democrats stirred racial tensions to have a wedge issue.

Between 2008 and 2012, Obama lost almost 4M voters. You believe all those voters decided that they were racist after all so they switched their votes?

#59 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-15 01:50 AM | Reply

Electing Obama was proof positive of a post-racial country.

Yeah, cuz no one lost their ---- over that one.

#60 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-07-15 01:58 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"#60 | Posted by REDIAL"

No one tried to kill him - much less multiple times like you ------- liberals did to Trump. Opposition to Obama was mainly tied to the fact that he was born in Kenya, holds anti-American views, had zero accomplishments prior to being elected as president, and is a homosexual.

People were not opposed to him based on skin color.

#61 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-15 02:18 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

I rest my case.

#62 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-07-15 02:20 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

No one tried to kill Trump.

There's a thread Turds posted.

Go there if you want to get laughed at.

#63 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-07-15 02:21 AM | Reply

"No one tried to kill Trump.
#63 | Posted by ClownShack"

Of all the retarded BlueAnon conspiracy theories I have read, this has to be hands down the most retarded.

#64 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-15 02:28 AM | Reply

If the liberal incel shooter would have been competent and fulfilled ------- fantasies in his assassination attempt, we would have President Newsom right now. That is a horrifying thought.

#65 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-15 02:30 AM | Reply

Hey ------.

Find the right thread.

You stupid idiot.

#66 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-07-15 02:32 AM | Reply

Scatberg, everyone here knows the world would be a much better place if Ed Gein had turned your twunt mother into a lampshade before she was able to ---- you out.

#67 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-07-15 02:33 AM | Reply

"#67 | Posted by reinheitsgebot"

I have said it before and I will say it again:

1.) I believe you are a pedophile
2.) I believe the world will be a better place when you are locked in a cage answering for your crimes

Other than that, I have nothing to say to you and want nothing to do with you.

#68 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-15 02:38 AM | Reply

Scatberg, are you going to visit your ------ buddy George Santos in prison?

#69 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-07-15 02:40 AM | Reply

At the cost of 500K foreign born workers jobs lost.
Net gain 1.5M jobs.

Meanwhile tomatoes are rotting in the fields in FL and CA as workers flee, entire housing developments sit idle in FL as ICE raids scare off even legal residents as they are kidnapping anyone brown.

Meanwhile ------- says they are going to stop kidnapping people from hospitality and agriculture businesses and at the same time ICE spokesturds say they kidnappings will continue.

So he is once again lying to the public OR they don't listen to him.

Both are not good.

#70 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-07-15 08:43 AM | Reply

Bingo - which is why the Left is all about virtue signaling but not actually believing in what they say. Sorta like how they booted the illegals off of Martha's Vineyard.

#47 | POSTED BY SCOTTS

I can't believe this idiot wants us to believe he's a serious person ...

#71 | Posted by jpw at 2025-07-15 09:39 AM | Reply

Jeff the lying cunt.
Squats the fucking retard.

#72 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-07-15 10:44 AM | Reply