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This is an issue I have mentioned in the past regarding renewables ...
As China's renewable capacity soars, utilisation lags, data show www.reuters.com
... China's renewable power potential in far-flung provinces is increasingly going unused, official statistics showed on Monday, as the country rushes to build more long-distance transmission and energy storage to bridge the gap. The curtailment rate for solar power rose to 6.6% in the first half of 2025 from 3.9% in the same period a year earlier while the rate for wind rose to 5.7% from 3%, according to the National New Energy Consumption Monitoring and Early Warning Center. Curtailment refers to how much grid managers have to limit the amount of power coming into the grid to maintain a balance with demand or due to grid infrastructure constraints. ...
The curtailment rate for solar power rose to 6.6% in the first half of 2025 from 3.9% in the same period a year earlier while the rate for wind rose to 5.7% from 3%, according to the National New Energy Consumption Monitoring and Early Warning Center.
Curtailment refers to how much grid managers have to limit the amount of power coming into the grid to maintain a balance with demand or due to grid infrastructure constraints. ...
#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-08-07 08:00 PM | Reply
@#1 ... due to grid infrastructure constraints ...
Yeah, here in the US, the problem is ...
The grid don't go to where renewable power is generated.
#2 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-08-07 08:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
#2 | Posted by LampLighter
Sure - but it could.
$7 billion invested one way or another...it probably could.
Understand, I realize it's way way too late.
yay...
#3 | Posted by billy_boy at 2025-08-07 08:10 PM | Reply
@#3 ... Sure - but it could.
$7 billion invested one way or another...it probably could. ...
I agree.
But that would require the grid operators to spend money, when it would be less expensive for them to just keep contributing to climate change.
#4 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-08-07 08:35 PM | Reply
Good news. Why throw taxpayer money at lousy technology?
#5 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-08-08 05:30 PM | Reply
It's not lousy technology. It works great. Especially during the winter.
#6 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-08-08 05:31 PM | Reply
LUMPS OF COAL FOR EVERYONE!
#7 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-08-08 06:56 PM | Reply
Why throw taxpayer money at lousy technology?
#5 | Posted by BellRinger
---- off you ----------- coward.
#8 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-08-08 06:56 PM | Reply
$7 Billion to 60 recipients including states, tribes and regions for investments such as rooftop solar and community solar gardens.
Yeah I am going with this was fraudlent money.
No solar was getting installed. Just like the USPS EV fiasco.
#9 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-08-08 08:54 PM | Reply | Funny: 2
Yeah I am going with this was fraudlent [sic] money
OneNut ran this through his gut-based calculator and it spit out a Conspiracy.
Great job, Inspector ClouSuck.
#10 | Posted by zarnon at 2025-08-09 12:46 AM | Reply
We could hold a contest to vote on just what is the stupidest thing the Trump fascists are doing, and truth be told, ignoring human caused global warming would probably win. Of course we need to help people and municipalities adapt to solar and wind and water sustainable power sources. What idiot would want us to lose a third of Florida's coastline, what idiot...oh right...Trump voters.
#11 | Posted by Hughmass at 2025-08-09 07:49 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3
Good.
When are we going to get back the rest of the $7 billion for EV charging stations?
Biden spent $7 billion to build 37 charging stations. Sounds like the same deal Newsom has for building rail.
#12 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-08-09 11:49 AM | Reply
wide scale Solar is a joke
#13 | Posted by Maverick at 2025-08-09 11:54 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
#13 | Posted by Maverick a
It's doing fine in Texas.
Too good.
That's why the oil and gas people want to kill it.
That's why Trump is killing it.
#14 | Posted by Zed at 2025-08-09 11:57 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
Did you know that the Amish are going solar more and more. They know what is up. If I lived in a house I'd go solar wind and geothermal. Mark my words. I promise you that.
#15 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-08-09 11:58 AM | Reply
Solar is a good idea for backup but you've got to have the batteries/inverters. People think they can just call a company and have them install solar and get a tax break. That solar feeds back into the grid to give you a break on your electric bill. If the grid goes down, that solar will do nothing for you.
I looked into a solar system and decided against it. Although I would install at a camp or somewhere electricity wasn't available. I have a dual fuel Generac I keep in good shape for hurricane season.
#16 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-08-09 12:09 PM | Reply
#5 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER
It's not lousy. It saves me thousands of dollars every year.
So Great. No subsidies for renewable energy. Fine.
Now do fossils fuels.
According to the IMF, in 2022, the US government gave the industry an estimated $757 billion in subsidies. $757 billion. www.eesi.org
Yeah I am going with this was fraudlent money and bribes.
#17 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-08-09 12:15 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
#17 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-08-09 12:15 PM | Reply | Flag:
You'd be going with the wrong thing. I suppose you think private companies should just expand anytime our government tells them to. Oil and Gas are a part of national security.
Now do the banks...
#18 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-08-09 12:21 PM | Reply
BTW- Thanks for reminding me. I need to clean my panels. I can increase my production by about 2% just by cleaning them.
The pollen was really bad this year.
#19 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-08-09 12:21 PM | Reply
You'd be going with the wrong thing.
Actually. I would be being sarcastic and making fun of oneNuts stupidity.
And ENERGY PRODUCTION is part of our national security. Which includes renewables and gas and oil.
#20 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-08-09 12:26 PM | Reply
Which includes renewables
#20 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-08-09 12:26 PM | Reply | Flag:
That no where near match the energy produced by oil and gas.
#21 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-08-09 12:57 PM | Reply
Thanks to Dummkopf Trumpf, pundits are calling the EPA the "Environmental Pollution Agency:" www.eveningtribune.com
Good job Republicans, I guess you breathe and enjoy different air and water than the rest of us.
#22 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-08-09 01:45 PM | Reply
Got my eye on a 21 acre plot of land it's already got a well and septic but need power so I'm looking at solar. Sure I'll still need batteries and a generator but I'll need a whole lot less of the generator if I go solar.
Also looking at some of those household wind turbines maybe a three way combination of wind, solar, and a generator for when it's dark and not windy. The cost to get power run to the house is about 50% of a solar installation so it's the perfect application as the pay down is only about 4-5 years taking into account the cost to run power. I'll have to do the math without the tax credits now since by the time I'm ready to start development they probably won't exist.
#23 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2025-08-09 02:02 PM | Reply
#21 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS
While that is true it does make renewables any less important. 22% of Americans energy production is renewables. 28% percent total global production.
28% of global production is pretty significant.
In most countries, photovoltaic solar or onshore wind are the cheapest new-build electricity.
I'd say that the sudden removal of 22% of America's energy production would create a national crisis.
#24 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-08-09 02:28 PM | Reply
Private companies are more than welcome to develop and build green energy initiatives like wind, solar, nuclear and geothermal, just not with ten federal taxpayers dime. If they are lucrative companies, BCDs, states, etc., will be more than willing to finance.
#25 | Posted by MSgt at 2025-08-09 02:58 PM | Reply
#24 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY AT 2025-08-09 02:28 PM | FLAG: Very doubtful there will be a removal, and they will continue to produce power.
#26 | Posted by MSgt at 2025-08-09 03:00 PM | Reply
Very doubtful there will be a removal, and they will continue to produce power.
#26 | POSTED BY MSGT
Which, of course, is not the point.
The point being that renewables are also now also a national security concern (we cannot do without them) being as how now a quarter of our energy needs is being produced by renewables and they are also reducing the cost of fossil fuels and extending our supplies and reducing our reliance on them (being as how fossil fuels are not renewable).
#27 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-08-09 03:13 PM | Reply
Private companies are more than welcome to develop and build green energy initiatives like wind, solar, nuclear and geothermal, just not with ten federal taxpayers dime.
Like I said. Ok fine.
Now do fossil fuels.
How about we stop subsidizing big oil to the tune of $757 billion dollars?
No? Why not? Let the private companies cover those subsidized costs. Right?
#28 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-08-09 03:16 PM | Reply
Fossil fuels generate net taxes even after subsidies. Wind and solar do not.
#29 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-08-09 03:18 PM | Reply
Yeah that's BS. And you know it. The government has always picked winners and losers.
Be honest. Just admit it.
Trumpy don't like renewables. They don't contribute enough money that he can skim off of.
It's THE ONLY reason.
Nothing else makes sense.
#30 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-08-09 03:26 PM | Reply
Fossil fuels generate net taxes even after subsidies. Wind and solar do not. #29 | Posted by BellRinger
Yet another lie from this guy. Does he know he's lying? He'll never say. Also, generating taxes is good? This is the natural evolution of the Trump tariff taxes being good, I assume. The old you would be asking, why should the energy company be charging me more, just to hand it over to the government?
By the Old You Reasoning, the fraud you were before Trump 2.0, wind and solar are significantly better for the consumer, since they don't redistribute consumer spending to the government. You're essentially arguing that an increase in the gas tax is a good thing because it generates net taxes. You resemble a drown man flailing for anything that might support him.
#31 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-09 03:28 PM | Reply
While that is true it does make renewables any less important.
#24 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-08-09 02:28 PM | Reply | Flag:
Run all branches of the armed forces off of it then.
#32 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-08-09 04:56 PM | Reply
#32 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRD
I already know that the U.S. Marine Corps utilizes solar power in various ways, both on bases and in the field, to enhance energy independence, reduce reliance on fossil fuels, and improve operational capabilities. They employ solar panels and related technologies to power equipment, reduce fuel consumption, and increase the efficiency and mobility of their operations. And I bet other branches do as well.
And. Yes we know tanks can't run in batteries (yet) and airplanes can't run on solar (yet). But our subs and aircraft carriers do run on nuclear. Which is also a renewable energy source. Just not one of our most favorite or safe renewables.
Anytime you can produce alternative energy AND save money on fossil fuels you are increasing your national security.
The Department of Defense (DOD) has invested millions of dollars in alternative fuels, primarily biofuels, to reduce its reliance on petroleum. From fiscal years 2007 through 2014, the DOD purchased roughly 2.0 million gallons of alternative fuels at a cost of about $58.6 million, according to the U.S. Government Accountability Office (GAO). This contrasts with their purchase of approximately 32.0 billion gallons of petroleum fuel during the same period, at a cost of about $107.2 billion.
#33 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-08-09 05:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
Run all branches of the armed forces off of it then. #32 | Posted by lfthndthrds
^ You're not claiming oil is renewable any more? The wells don't replenish after all?
#34 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-09 05:40 PM | Reply
Trump is killing America's ability to wage war. Republicans are cheering as Trump kills America's ability to wage war.
How the Pentagon Secretly Sparked America's Clean Energy Boom
In the early 2000s, as U.S. troops navigated the harsh landscapes of Iraq and Afghanistan, the price of delivering a gallon of fuel to a forward operating base skyrocketed to more than $400 to $600.
Supply lines transporting fuel were increasingly targeted, resulting in casualties and operational disruptions. Faced with these pressing tactical and logistical challenges, the Pentagon realized that the nation's reliance on fossil fuels posed a direct threat to national security.
That realization"and the Department of Defense's aggressive efforts to address it"quietly kicked off a clean technology revolution that continues today.
thedebrief.org
#35 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-09 05:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
"How the Pentagon Secretly Sparked America's Clean Energy Boom"
We will NOT be having any of that in Trumplandia.
Thanks America!
#36 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-08-09 05:52 PM | Reply
#13 | Posted by Maverick
Oh and BTW-
All energy (except nuclear and geothermal) is solar and ultimately comes from the sun. And an argument could be made that even nuclear and thermal ultimately exist because of the sun.
We are just trying to cut out the middle men.
#37 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-08-09 06:33 PM | Reply
You're not claiming oil is renewable any more? The wells don't replenish after all?
#34 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-09 05:40 PM | Reply | Flag:
Never did. You're the moron who claims that burning our forests to generate electricity is a renewable - bEcAuSe wE cAn pLaNt aNoThEr tReE!!!
#38 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-08-09 06:48 PM | Reply
You know who else uses solar? Oil companies. They operate well pads where there is no electricity of many miles. It has it's place but we're never going to run this country off of it or wind.
#39 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-08-09 07:24 PM | Reply
You're the moron who claims that burning our forests to generate electricity is a renewable - bEcAuSe wE cAn pLaNt aNoThEr tReE!!! #38 | Posted by lfthndthrds
Nope, never made this claim about biomass. As an energy source it might even be worse than growing corn to produce ethanol. It's a corporate welfare program for moneyed interests, masquerading as a green energy policy.
Cutting solar R&D abandons our leadership role in emerging technology. Only an idiot would want to cede the leadership role to China or Europe. You. You would want to cede the leadership role to China or Europe.
#40 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-09 07:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
It has it's place but we're never going to run this country off of it or wind. #39 | Posted by lfthndthrds
That's the same thing as saying: "We could run the country almost entirely with solar wind hydro and other renewables." You just aren't honest enough or smart enough --probably both -- to admit that's true.
#41 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-09 07:40 PM | Reply
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