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Donald Trump has given Vice President J.D. Vance an expanded role in coordinating a peace deal between Russia and Ukraine, in what could end up being a crucial litmus test ahead of the 2028 election.

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After Zelensky's last meeting with the White House -- which ended abruptly -- both President Trump and Vice President JD Vance accused the Ukrainian president of disrespect.

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-- Axios (@axios.com) Aug 18, 2025 at 11:22 AM

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"Kremlin plays down Zelensky talks as Trump warns Putin may not 'want to make deal'

The Kremlin has played down talk of an imminent summit between Russian President Vladimir Putin and Ukraine's Volodymyr Zelensky, as Donald Trump renewed his call for the two leaders to meet to discuss ending the war in Ukraine.

Trump admitted the conflict was "a tough one" to solve and conceded it was possible the Russian president was not interested in ending hostilities.

"We're going to find out about President Putin in the next couple of weeks," he said on Tuesday. "It's possible that he doesn't want to make a deal."

www.bbc.com

"Here Vlad, have a couple of more weeks killing kids, my friend! And I'm sending JD for you to kick around some... enjoy!"

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2025-08-19 08:09 PM | Reply

Diaper wearing low energy pedo thinks VD Prance is a girl.

#2 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-08-19 09:33 PM | Reply

White House announces Putin agreed to bilateral meeting with Zelenskyy

www.foxnews.com

#3 | Posted by Corky at 2025-08-19 09:36 PM | Reply

Did he also nominate Vance for the Peace Prize?

LOL.

#4 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-08-19 09:52 PM | Reply

Choosing to call that summit "historic" is an example of the media whitewashing what Trump is up to.

#5 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-19 11:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

If he is giving it to Jethro Dull that means even he sees that it will never happen.

#6 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-08-20 08:10 AM | Reply

Kremlin plays down Zelensky talks as Trump warns Putin may not want to make deal

www.bbc.com

This is a big Nyet! on the whole thing.

Putin has always and still says that Ukraine is not a real State, and he's told Russians so often that Zelenskyy is a Nazi that he's not going to sit down with a Nazi.

This is, as they say, all over but the crying.

#7 | Posted by Corky at 2025-08-20 10:37 AM | Reply

Trump warns Putin may not want to make deal

And still no "very big very bad" sanctions that Krasanov Fats promised if there wasn't a cease fire.

Taco doing taco things

#8 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-08-20 10:40 AM | Reply

Trump: I will bring peace on day 1.
Trump: I failed. JD & Marco, crawl under this bus for me.

#9 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2025-08-20 10:53 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Where are those new sanctions on Russia that Trump was promising a few weeks ago when he gave Putin a two week deadline to make peace? Did he slap 100% tariffs on Putin's trading partners like he promised? He sure was talking tough about when he was in Scotland. He went from saying "I'm not so interested in talking anymore" to flying to Alaska to kiss Putin's cheeks and turn his back on Ukraine at the same time Russia was launching new attacks on Ukraine. Pathetically weak.

#10 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2025-08-20 11:07 AM | Reply

#10 Taco will NEVER do anything to hurt Daddy Vlad.

#11 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-08-20 11:18 AM | Reply


Where are those new sanctions on Russia that Trump was promising a few weeks ago when he gave Putin a two week deadline to make peace?

Seems like he's making progress, why would he put on the sanctions? You people have never raised kids have you?

The Lumpers read of all the EuroLeaders going to DC to defend Z were wrong, it wasn't about defending Z. Trump probably called them, at the very least the EuroLeaders wanted facetime incase there was a break through. Seems like peace might be on the horizon.

Disparage it all you want, less lives and money wasted in a stalemate is a good thing.

#12 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-08-20 12:01 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

- Seems like he's making progress

That's a laugh riot... Vlad is leading Donnie around by his nose leash.

He's been calling Zelenskyy a Nazi for years now in his massive home propaganda, he claims that Ukraine is not a real state, and IF he ever meets with the Ukrainian Pres, it will be after he's stalled for weeks and his only purpose will be to humiliate Zelenskyy.

#13 | Posted by Corky at 2025-08-20 01:09 PM | Reply

This war isn't about Russian needing Donbass or Crimea... Russia has a dozen times zones of mostly empty land. Russia wants Ukraine... and then the rest of the old SU.

Here's a brief description of what's really going on:

www.youtube.com

start a min in; it's about 4 min w/ Anne Applebaum

#14 | Posted by Corky at 2025-08-20 02:22 PM | Reply

This war isn't about Russian needing Donbass or Crimea... Russia has a dozen times zones of mostly empty land.
#14 | Posted by Corky

Pop Quiz for Republicans.
Fill in the blank:
"Give 'em an inch, they take __ ______."

#15 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-20 02:26 PM | Reply

"Give 'em an inch, they take __ ______."

Poland and Finland, just for starters.

#16 | Posted by Corky at 2025-08-20 02:32 PM | Reply

Wesley Clark today:

Putin has no pressure on him to end his war; there's no peacekeeping force that can defend Kiev if he breaks through the land stalemate. Not even any formidable Sanctions now.

Until there is, he will continue to his goal of conquering all the Baltic States and others.

#17 | Posted by Corky at 2025-08-20 03:19 PM | Reply

... Donald Trump has given Vice President J.D. Vance an expanded role in coordinating a peace deal between Russia and Ukraine, ...

... and this is A Good Thing ...

Why?


VP Vance seems to repel people.

#18 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-08-20 06:50 PM | Reply

@#14 ... This war isn't about Russian needing Donbass or Crimea. ...

Actually it is.

Russia 'Reactivates' Secret Soviet-Era Submarine Base In Occupied Ukraine (February 2025)
www.rferl.org

... In a video posted on Telegram in early February, two floating barriers are shown at the entrance to the natural harbor at Balaklava in Russian-held Crimea.

Pro-Ukrainian activists claim the barriers, which can close the harbor to marine drones, are the latest evidence that a long-mothballed submarine base, once known as Object 825 GTS, is being returned to service.

"The [Russian] occupiers are again using an old underground submarine base, which previously functioned as a museum, for military purposes," the Crimean Tatar guerilla group Atesh recently posted on Telegram. ..



#19 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-08-20 06:55 PM | Reply

"Trump Gives Vance Expanded Roll"

Like a d20?

This is Trump's way of failing and blaming the VP for his failure.

#20 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-20 07:15 PM | Reply

Regarding Donbas ...

The significance of the Donbas in Russia's war in Ukraine
www.dw.com

... The Donbas has long had a strong Russian character. As early as the 19th century, and in Soviet times later, it was an industrial heartland, rich in natural resources. As the coal-mining, steel and chemical sectors were developed in the 20th century, people from all over the Soviet Union, above all from Russia, moved here in search of work.

Even before 2014, a clear majority of the population spoke Russian; while many people in the more western parts of Ukraine wanted closer ties to the European Union than to the Kremlin, this part of eastern Ukraine maintained close ties with Moscow. The former Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovych, who was supported by the Kremlin, was born in Donetsk, and it was in this region that most of his base lived.

It was when he was overthrown during the Maidan revolution of 2014 and fled to Russia that the Donbas became a bone of contention between Moscow and Kyiv. ...

If the Kremlin was hoping for wide support from Russian-speaking Ukrainians, it was soon to be proved wrong. In fact, the separatist war in eastern Ukraine fueled resentment of the Kremlin. Volodymyr Zelenskyy, who grew up speaking Russian, won a landslide victory in the 2019 presidential election, winning in the areas of eastern Ukraine still held by Kyiv. His approach to end the conflict without giving up Ukrainian sovereignty met with broad approval.

Today, all of the Luhansk region and about 70% of Donetsk are under the Kremlin's control. Thus, about 88% of the Donbas is occupied by Russia. More than 4 million people are estimated to live in the two regions, which boast not only rich deposits of coal and iron ore, but also lithium, cobalt, titanium and other rare earths that are key for high-tech goods. ...

Donbas is crucial

The two regions are also vital for the Kremlin to maintain a land connection to the Crimean Peninsula, which can only be reached from Russian territory via the Kerch bridge. ...

Should the Kremlin be granted control of the Donbas and the front line in the Zaporizhzhia and Kherson regions be frozen, it effectively would mean that Russia's occupation of these areas would continue, Crimea would be accessible via land. And Ukraine would have no access to the Sea of Azov, an inlet connected to the Black Sea that is currently bordered by Ukraine and Russia.

For Ukraine, too, the significance of the Donbas goes beyond economics. The government has established a "fortress belt" in the areas that it still holds. It is the military's most important line of defense, and it has made it so far impossible for Russia to advance further into central Ukraine. The fortress belt comprises several key cities and fortified positions, including Kramatorsk, Sloviansk and Kostyantynivka, which Ukraine has held onto doggedly despite heavy losses. Behind this belt lie the open plains of central Ukraine, which would be extremely vulnerable to a Russian offensive without a line of defense. ...

Thus, Zelenskyy will do his best to not give up the remaining areas of Donbas without far-reaching and reliable security guarantees.

This would in any case be hard for him to do from a domestic point of view. The constitution does not allow the president to make such a concession, which would be extremely unpopular in Ukraine. According to a survey by the Kyiv International Institute of Sociology, about 75% of Ukrainians are against territorial concessions to Russia. ...

This article was originally written in German. ...



#21 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-08-20 07:22 PM | Reply

Please allow me to repeat my #18 ...

... and this is A Good Thing ...

Why?

#22 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-08-20 11:03 PM | Reply

JD Vance, who famously suggested women learn how to take a punch for the sake of the relationship, is now our Peace Czar?

Huzzah!!!

#23 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-08-20 11:04 PM | Reply

It probably won't happen, but if a peace deal in this war is brokered by this administration the absolute freak-out on the left will be hilarious to watch.

We will have to wait and see.

#24 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-08-20 11:51 PM | Reply

It probably won't happen, but if a peace deal in this war is brokered by this administration the absolute freak-out on the left will be hilarious to watch.
We will have to wait and see.

#24 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-08-20 11:51 PM | Reply

Capitulation isn't a peace deal I would want to be a part of. Especially given the fact that we promised Ukraine that we would defend them if they were attacked if they gave up their nukes.

#25 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-08-21 12:01 AM | Reply

What peace deal? Trump already suggested Ukraine forfeit the land that Russia has taken and Putin said he's not done yet.

What a fucking retard you are.

You fucking Trump cuck.

#26 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-08-21 12:03 AM | Reply

Trump is owned by Putin and Putin will stop whenever he damn well please and if you decide to call that moment a peace deal then you're more of a fucking retarded than I gave you credit for.

#27 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-08-21 12:06 AM | Reply

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