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Disney's ABC said "Jimmy Kimmel Live!" "will be will be pre-empted indefinitely," a spokesperson confirmed to NBC News, after the late night host's Monday monologue about conservative activist Charlie Kirk. Kirk, co-founder of Turning Point USA, was giving a presentation at Utah Valley University when he was fatally shot last week. During his monologue Monday, Kimmel raised the possibility that the alleged assassin Tyler Robinson might have been a pro-Trump Republican. "The MAGA Gang (is) desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it," Kimmel said.

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So much for free speech ehhhhhhhh. Come on Jeff. Defend this.

#1 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-09-17 07:00 PM | Reply

The Trump administration is using the death of a hate monger to censor comedians.

Republicans don't want freedom of speech.

They want the freedom to be able to vomit up hate.

#2 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-17 07:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I didn't see this headline.

I like mine better.

Kimmel canceled

#3 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-09-17 07:41 PM | Reply

I read Kimmel's comment was saying Kirk was actually killed by "one of their own" and now trying to blame it on the left.

#4 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-09-17 07:43 PM | Reply

I said nobody wants to be connected to shit like this.

ABC is terrified of tolerating that kind of thing

#5 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-17 07:52 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

-The Trump administration

ABC is scared of their advertisers and viewers.

IOW, you and me.

ABC is scared of you and me.

#6 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-17 07:54 PM | Reply

I read the FCC pressured Disney and ABC.

#7 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-09-17 07:55 PM | Reply

" ABC is scared of their advertisers and viewers."

Nonsense.

The suits at Disney realize a win in public would lead to A LOT of losses on paper ... which is all that matters. Paramount's payoff was a rounding error in its merger.

Meanwhile, the current POTUS is shaking down corporate America, and Republicans are fine with that.

#8 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-09-17 07:59 PM | Reply

Further proof: Trump isn't expecting to get $15 Billion from NBC. He's expecting them to spend a lot of money, against his unlimited budget.

Is that the Republican ideal? Or are we dealing with a cult?

#9 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-09-17 08:02 PM | Reply

I'm saying advertisers and viewers are all of it.

Just part of it.

#10 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-17 08:03 PM | Reply

Dan,

People who want comedy instead of politics are going to be happy

#11 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-09-17 08:04 PM | Reply

-I read the FCC pressured Disney and ABC

Link?

#12 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-17 08:04 PM | Reply

Nevermind ... ... widely reported.

My bad ... ..

#13 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-17 08:06 PM | Reply

"The MAGA Gang (is) desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it," Kimmel said."

Facts will not be tolerated by the Trump Propaganda Police!

#14 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-17 08:56 PM | Reply

Kimmel was either misinformed or simply lying regarding the motive of th3 shooter. His edits to make Trump seem like he didn't give a rip about Kirk's death was kind of offensive and IMO not funny, but so what? Comedians are supposed to be edgy. I didn't see anything that, from my POV, warrants a suspension of his show.

#15 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-17 09:02 PM | Reply

Colbert will probably have Kimmel on his show and give him the Emmy he won the other day.

#16 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-09-17 09:07 PM | Reply

Well, if Colbert is allowed to have a show again.

#17 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-09-17 09:08 PM | Reply

"Obama condemns horrific' Kirk shooting, but defends the right to criticize the founder of Turning Point USA

The former president suggested Republicans have deepened the nation's polarization in response to the killing.

"We can also, at the same time, say that I disagree with the idea that the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was a mistake," he continued.

"I can say that I disagree with the suggestion that my wife or Justice Jackson does not have adequate brain processing power. I can say that I disagree that Martin Luther King was awful."

"When I hear not just our current president, but his aides, who have a history of calling political opponents vermin, enemies who need to be targeted, that speaks to a broader problem that we have right now," Obama said.

"When we have the weight of the United States government behind extremist views, we've got a problem," he added."
excerpts

www.politico.com

#18 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-17 09:15 PM | Reply

Bell,

My concern is that we're sliding from comedy into a kind of speech-policing that feels uncomfortably McCarthyesque.

I'm not saying I believe this to be true, but I do wonder who's next.

#19 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-09-17 09:17 PM | Reply

...but I do wonder who's next.

Jon Stewart.

#20 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-09-17 09:21 PM | Reply

Bell,

That being said, I'm not going to miss him.

These late night shows are tanking in the ratings and it's no wonder why.

We need another Johnny Carson.

#21 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-09-17 09:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Sam Kinnison is rolling in his grave right about now.

#22 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-09-17 09:29 PM | Reply

Whatever happened to Arsenio Hall?

I liked his energy.

#23 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-09-17 09:31 PM | Reply

This is wrong. Period.

Jimmy is allowed to get it wrong.

#24 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-17 09:32 PM | Reply

We need another Johnny Carson.

A Medal of Freedom winner!

#25 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-09-17 09:33 PM | Reply

Jimmy is allowed to get it wrong.

Evidence to the contrary. Speak not ill of the King.

#26 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-09-17 09:34 PM | Reply

#21 Antenna TV (on Xfinity and a TV antenna) has Johnny Carson at 11pm EST.

#27 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2025-09-17 09:34 PM | Reply

Wouldn't this be why Howard stern was glad he moved to satellite?

#28 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-17 09:35 PM | Reply

Laura.

You liked Sam Kinnison?

His voice grated on my nerves.

I liked the antics of Judy Tenuta.

She was funny and had a soothing voice.

#29 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-09-17 09:39 PM | Reply


This is wrong. Period.

Which part?


Jimmy is allowed to get it wrong.
#24 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Why?

Why can't a corporation decide it would rather stay out of the political speculation rotation, and just be a comedy late night show?
It would have perhaps been fine he wasn't so serious, but it really wasn't even a joke.

I have never been around when the late night shows were supposedly great, IMO they have always been poor political humor.

My concern is that we're sliding from comedy into a kind of speech-policing that feels uncomfortably McCarthyesque.

I recall a rodeo clown in a Obama mask got fired, I guess this was the beginning of the end for comedians.

"We can also, at the same time, say that I disagree with the idea that the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was a mistake," he continued.

I always find these sorts of replies funny, they avoid the points that Charlie was making. I was always sold Obama a wise man, maybe its his cadence, but this really is just tiktok reponse.
Thanks for showing me that part of Obama, Corky.

#30 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-09-17 09:43 PM | Reply

I LOVED Sam Kinnison. Loved him loved him. Especially his skit on Married with Children. He rocked.

#31 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-09-17 09:45 PM | Reply

Sam Kinnison
Richard Pryor
Andrew Dice Clay
Johnny Carson

Etc etc

#32 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-09-17 09:51 PM | Reply

The FCC shouldn't be policing the accuracy of Kimmel's comments.

#33 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-17 09:52 PM | Reply

Laura,

This is the way comedy is meant to be.

Judy Judy Judy

www.youtube.com

#34 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-09-17 09:59 PM | Reply

- they avoid the points that Charlie was making.

Completely clueless Chinese... what will they think of next? Bringing back the queue?

Kirk was a nasty piece of work who denigrated every non-white male nationalist category of people he possible could for years and years. He would have likely spit on you if he saw you.

The 'out of context' meme is stupid and complete nonsense... one notices you have no comment on Kirk's description of Michelle and Justice Jackson.

You are an embarrassment to professional morons everywhere... you'll likely lose your membership card.

#35 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-17 10:04 PM | Reply

" I LOVED Sam Kinnison. Loved him loved him. Especially his skit on Married with Children. He rocked.

#31 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR AT 2025-09-17 09:45 PM | FLAG: "

Did you see the movie Back to School?

He was brilliant as Professor Turgeson.

#36 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-17 10:10 PM | Reply

" 35 | POSTED BY CORKY AT 2025-09-17 10:04 PM | FLAG: "

I didn't follow him while he was alive. Yeah, I saw clips here and there on YouTube and whatnot but didn't actively follow him. Since he was murdered I e watched and listened to him a ton. None of your characterizations even remotely resemble what I've observed. Almost polar opposite.

#37 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-17 10:13 PM | Reply

Meanwhile Fox continues to condone their hosts calling for the imprisonment and murder of homeless and mentally ill people for simply existing.

#38 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2025-09-17 10:21 PM | Reply

Since he was murdered I e watched and listened to him a ton.

Pretty much Mother Thresa selling her cookies online, wasn't he?

#39 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-09-17 10:22 PM | Reply

" 38 | POSTED BY JOHNNY_HOTSAUCE AT 2025-09-17 10:21 PM | FLAG: "

One host. Kilmeade. But yeah. I hear ya.

#40 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-17 10:31 PM | Reply

Jimmy is allowed to get it wrong.

Watch the entire thing - don't read what people are reporting he said, or interpreting it. It's so innocuous it's ridiculous. And the Republican FCC guy was absolutely verklempt over it. Well, it was bs acting and indignation to be honest.

What Kimmel said was nothing compared to Kilmeade.

#41 | Posted by YAV at 2025-09-17 10:45 PM | Reply

#40 - Don't lie. I saw the segment. It was all three. Jones said they should "be locked up in jail." Kilmeade said or "involuntary lethal injection...just kill them" To which Jones responded "yep" and Earhardt replied "Yeah, Brian." The other two never showed any sign of disagreement.

#42 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2025-09-17 10:48 PM | Reply

He was probably losing $40 Million per show anyway. Solid financial decision.

#43 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-09-17 10:49 PM | Reply

"#40 - Don't lie. I saw the segment. It was all three."

I only saw the Kilmeade piece. But yes, sound advice and echoed by Yav. Watch/listen firsthand and draw your own conclusions.

Thank you for that.

#44 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-17 10:52 PM | Reply

One host. Kilmeade

Kilmeade piled on with the "involuntary lethal injection" after Jones said lock them up in prison if they don't comply. Earhardt wasn't phased and asked, "Yeah, Brian, why did it have to get to this point?"

Kilmeade's apology was pathetic and inadequate. What a POS.

#45 | Posted by YAV at 2025-09-17 10:53 PM | Reply

"Kilmeade's apology was pathetic and inadequate."

I said approximately the same thing on that thread.

#46 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-17 10:54 PM | Reply

"don't read what people are reporting he said, or interpreting it."

I don't watch him.

Nor did I Kirk

But it's obvious that's the case with Kirk. Everyone pretending to be offended over stuff they never heard Kirk say.

Thats how it works. People pretending to be offended at things not heard. Just "interpreted"

#47 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-17 11:00 PM | Reply

#44 - I watched the Kilmeade exchange completely in context - and it was obvious it was going off the rails before Kilmeade jumped in. Also I watched the Kimmel monologue - and he was dead on with it. The problem was he was criticizing the massive right-wing machine immediately (just like happened on here) blaming "The Left" before anything was really known. Contrary information started to appear, but it was early and things changed. The point he was making was still dead on. No one should be blaming others until we know WTF is going on. At least not at the level of President, DHC, FBI, and DOJ levels.

I knew when Kirk was killed it was just too sweet and too juicy an opportunity for Trump to go after his enemies, so he had to turn the full us government to that task, and set the message before we knew what really happened. If he was wrong, he still accomplished what he wanted. If he was right, he accomplishes what he wanted and he can point and say "see how dangerous these leftists are!"

I was so hoping America would make it to 250 years as a Democratic, Constitutional Republic.

#48 | Posted by YAV at 2025-09-17 11:00 PM | Reply

Like I said. Kimmel is allowed to get it wrong.

#49 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-17 11:01 PM | Reply

BTW - read that 2nd paragraph in #48 and watch Kimmel. You'll see exactly what I'm saying perfectly illustrated by Trump's response to the Press about Kirk's murder.

#50 | Posted by YAV at 2025-09-17 11:03 PM | Reply

" Thats how it works. People pretending to be offended at things"

You've read his quotes about blacks, especially black women. Would you be offended if he claimed those types of things about you?

I mean, you only have your job because you're white, male, and a Republican nepo baby. No qualifications whatsoever.

Right?

Insulting, or is the lie okay with you?

#51 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-09-17 11:07 PM | Reply

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#52 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-09-17 11:10 PM | Reply

-You've read his quotes about blacks, especially black women.

Yep. I've seen both the direct quote in entirety and the interpreted summaries.

Have you actually read or seen what he actually said?

Because you might have given it away that you haven't.

#53 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-17 11:20 PM | Reply

" on. No one should be blaming others until we know WTF is going on. At least not at the level of President, DHC, FBI, and DOJ levels." - Yav

I agree. However this problem of jumping the narrative has been far more pronounced from left sources than righty sources on this issue from what I've observed.

#54 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-17 11:21 PM | Reply

" Have you actually read or seen what he actually said?"

Yes; I'm aware of the mis-quotes.

You seem to be unaware of the actual quotes.

#55 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-09-17 11:22 PM | Reply

Jimmy is allowed to get it wrong.

Fox News guys are allowed to get it wrong.

Clownshack is allowed to get it wrong.

Even I'm allowed to get it wrong.

But not here.

#56 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-17 11:24 PM | Reply

-You seem to be unaware of the actual quotes.

Nope

But you're offended by them?

#57 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-17 11:25 PM | Reply

Here are ACTUAL quotes.

ca.news.yahoo.com

Black women "do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person's slot to go be taken somewhat seriously."

#58 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-09-17 11:25 PM | Reply

Do you believe all "offended" claims are legit?

#59 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-17 11:26 PM | Reply

" But you're offended by them?"

The actual quotes? Yes.

My guess is you disbelieve the majority of the 14 DIRECT QUOTES in my link.

#60 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-09-17 11:27 PM | Reply

" Do you believe all "offended" claims are legit?"

I believe the quotes are quotes. You?

#61 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-09-17 11:28 PM | Reply

You believe he was talking about all black women?

100% of them aren't deserving their position?

Maybe think before you answer ... ...

#62 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-17 11:29 PM | Reply

-The actual quotes? Yes.

I don't think you are.

#63 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-17 11:30 PM | Reply

" You believe he was talking about all black women?"

You believe he wasn't?!?

Feel free to point out his caveat. At this point, you're pretending there is one.

BTW, you might want to read my link before embarrassing yourself.

#64 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-09-17 11:32 PM | Reply

"I don't think you are."

Tell me you didn't read the link without using those specific words.

#65 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-09-17 11:33 PM | Reply

Pointing out the obvious mis-quotes and misinformation regarding of Kirk is not a defense for his actual quotes.

There are plenty of them. Legit and real

#66 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-17 11:33 PM | Reply

" Pointing out the obvious mis-quotes"

I linked to actual quotes.

Why you can't deal with that is beyond me.

#67 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-09-17 11:35 PM | Reply

-You believe he wasn't?!?

He was referencing 2 successful black women who claimed they were the beneficiaries of AA.

You're pretending to be offended by that.

You're not.

#68 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-17 11:36 PM | Reply

" He was referencing 2 successful black women"

And then made it about Black Women.

It's pretty damned clear, to anyone but a water-carrier.

Did you read the quote, or is FoxNews filtering it all for you?

#69 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-09-17 11:41 PM | Reply

-I linked to actual quotes.

Yes, that's fine.

I'm attacking those quotes.

To be honest, if history says Kirk claimed black women are worthless and can't do shit on their own ... ... that's how it goes.

Kimmel can live in the same judgmental world.

#70 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-17 11:43 PM | Reply

" You're pretending to be offended by that. You're not."

You're clueless.

Of course I'm offended; I'm a human being who believes others deserve to be treated with dignity.

More to the point, why are you endorsing behavior you'd try to eliminate if it was your son making these ugly statements?

#71 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-09-17 11:44 PM | Reply

69

Are you trying to he no different from clown and donner?

Fox News and water carrier?

You're done? Thrown in the towel this damn fast.

I'm not that good. That smart.

Stop treating me like I am.

#72 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-17 11:45 PM | Reply

Danforth,

Do you believe Kirk advocated the stoning of homosexuals?

This is not a gotcha

#73 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-17 11:45 PM | Reply

-why are you endorsing behavior

I'm endorsing someone's behavior?

Clueless? No shit.

#74 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-17 11:46 PM | Reply

" To be honest, if history says Kirk claimed black women are worthless and can't do shit on their own ... ... that's how it goes."

If? YOU WERE GIVEN THE DIRECT QUOTE.

And if you want to deny facts in front of your face ... that's how it goes.

Right?

#75 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-09-17 11:46 PM | Reply

" I'm endorsing someone's behavior?"

You're soaked from trying to carry all that water.

You even used the word "IF" when referring to A DIRECT QUOTE.

#76 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-09-17 11:48 PM | Reply

"Of course I'm offended; I'm a human being who believes others deserve to be treated with dignity.

#71 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-09-17 11:44 PM |"

How do you feel about this comment:

"I'd offer condolences to his wife and kids but they are better off without him."

Not a gotcha

#77 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-17 11:49 PM | Reply

" Do you believe Kirk advocated the stoning of homosexuals?"

Why else would he call stoning "God's perfect law when it comes to sexual matters"...?

Feel free to tell us "what he REALLY meant" by that.

#78 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-09-17 11:52 PM | Reply

" How do you feel about this comment:"

It's cold and unfeeling. It lacks empathy.

Remind us how Charlie felt about empathy. Do you need a direct quote?

#79 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-09-17 11:54 PM | Reply

"Feel free to tell us "what he REALLY meant" by that.

#78 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-09-17 11:52 PM"

Do you know what selective editing is?

I have on multiple threads posted contextual video clips that blow that BS out of the water. Perhaps you missed it - you don't live here so it's likely.

#80 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-17 11:55 PM | Reply

Dan,

"I'm a human being who believes others deserve to be treated with dignity"

Is that all people or just the ones who think like you?

#81 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-09-17 11:56 PM | Reply

" Do you know what selective editing is?"

Sure I do. Do you know what quotes around a phrase means?

Explain how Kirk didn't mean the actual words that came out of his mouth.

#82 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-09-17 11:58 PM | Reply

" Is that all people or just the ones who think like you?"

Everybody.

Even your wife.

#83 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-09-17 11:58 PM | Reply

-You're soaked from trying to carry all that water.

Im the unbiased one in this discussion.

Doesn't guarantee me to be right.

You've been emotional about Kirk for quite some time.

So ... ... .carrying water? I can endeavor to be objective and still fall short.

But I'm trying to be objective.

#84 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-18 12:00 AM | Reply

-Do you know what quotes around a phrase means?

Does it sting you have to pretend to be this dumb?

#85 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-18 12:01 AM | Reply

" Im the unbiased one in this discussion."

You couldn't even admit a direct quote was a direct quote.

That's sloshing-over-the-brim water-carrying.

Somebody give this man a towel!!!

#86 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-09-18 12:03 AM | Reply

#78 Dude.

Are you going to cherry-pick EVERYTHING?

The problem with this discussion is you are taking what you've been spoonfed (Leviticus) and narrowing it down to an 18-second clip where he is abruptly cut-off.

I am OK providing you contextual video clips if you are GENUINELY interested in seeing them. If you are not - if your mind is made up - then say so. I won't waste my time.

#87 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-18 12:03 AM | Reply

Dan,

"Feel free to tell us what he really meant."

Sure...if you take one line out of context, you can spin it however you like.

But if he's claiming to speak as a Christian, it matters that Jesus directly opposed stoning saying "let him who is without sin cast the first stone."

I'll leave it up to you to tell me what you think Charlie Kirk really meant.

#88 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-09-18 12:03 AM | Reply

" You've been emotional about Kirk for quite some time."

Quite some time?!? Wtf??? 20 posts, all above.

Do you have me confused with someone else?

#89 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-09-18 12:04 AM | Reply

Dan,

You sure don't treat people on this site who you disagree with, with a great deal of dignity.

#90 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-09-18 12:06 AM | Reply

-You couldn't even admit a direct quote was a direct quot

I can read.

-Quite some time?!?

Yeah. 5 years at least.

He's been addressing homosexuality for at least that long.

Nobody escapes your vision on that issue.

#91 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-18 12:08 AM | Reply

" I'll leave it up to you to tell me what you think Charlie Kirk really meant."

He said it, directly: stoning gays is GOD's solution.

Make no mistake: if the Charlie Kirks of the world got what they're advocating, the NEXT group will be gays who married straight people.

The Kirks of the world don't care who gets hit, as long as they're the ones throwing the stones.

#92 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-09-18 12:08 AM | Reply

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