At a cut rate, the rest was on the tax payer. If you haven't noticed, our government doesn't make a MF thing. They take and redistribute.
#6 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Insurance companies don't make a MF thing either.

Insurance companies take and redistribute.

That's all they do.

You must not be very smart if you didn't already know that.

You have a life where you substitute emotion for intelligence.

Do you remember when they used to accuse Liberals of that?
Then came their war on education, science, and simple rationality.
#13 | Posted by Zed

Republican men love to claim women are overly emotional, especially when on her period.

You know when a woman's testosterone level is highest?
When she's on her period.

You know what Republican men are taking, for gender affirming care?
Testosterone.

That's why Republican men are so emotional.
It's literally their hormones.

There's at least one Deplorable here on testosterone. Probably more. I wouldn't be surprised if more than half of them are taking it, at least the ones under 50 where being manly is still part of their mythology.

"The farmers of America chose to love a man who never could love them back"

Oh, they chose their parents.

Not all farmers have Superman's parents for parents.
Most of them are drunks and losers.
Am I close, Eberly?

ACA was cooked up in the back room with the insurance execs in better shape than anyone else, like Eberly pointed out above.
#41 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Republicans couldn't come up with anything better, so...

Let's get to the interesting part.

Do you think Republicans will TACO and extend the subsidies? I do.

"You're placing blame on a party who didn't want ACA."

Because that's where it belongs!

Republicans let this part of the ACA die, because Republicans are the party that didn't want ACA.

What am I missing?

LOL. I love all the faux concern and sympathy for subsidies to farmers.
You've all been whining about subsidies given to farmers your entire lives.
Do you even realize what you're saying here? You're complaining the subsidies aren't being given.
I'm sure some farmers a little down the food chain are struggling with this but according to you folks they are welfare queens who vote for republicans and go to church.
LOL
#30 | Posted by eberly

You're really mystified why when someone's on the ledge, and the people like you who are saying "Jump!"

What's with the other people saying "Don't Do It?". You can't understand where they're coming from.

Makes no sense to you why these farmers, and the rest of us, shouldn't just live with the consequences of their awful choices.

You have the sake mindset as the Republican Sheriffs refuse to carry Narcan to help someone ODing on Fentanyl.

Even as we illegally invade a foreign country for sending so much Fentanyl to the United States it's given rise to a National Emergency.

You're just so desperately confused by the world.

Better just to pour yourself another Bourbon and not think about it too much, Eberly.

"On Saturday, Donald Trump ordered the U.S. military to attack a sovereign nation and kidnap its leader. Then he went on TV and flat-out confessed that it was about taking over Venezuela's oil."
(Source: Public Citizen)

To recap:
JeffJ and Eberly agree with the summary of the facts above.
JeffJ and Eberly can't understand why people are saying it is illegal.
JeffJ and Trump (but not yet Eberly) has affirmatively stated this is legal.

Please let me know I've gotten any of that wrong.

So, then, why don't we just provide universal single-payer health care, and get the profit oriented insurance companies (I'm being kind. I substituted the word "companies" for "leeches" before I posted this) out of of the cost structure?
Because we don't have a political party who wants it.
#70 | Posted by eberly

We'll assume you want it.
I certainly want it.

What do we call a political system where the people on both sides overwhelmingly want something, but neither party can give it to them?

I'm not sure what to call it, but if this is democracy, it's gotten pretty anemic.

This issue is like mythology of the Republicans being afraid to go against the NRA.

Both parties are ill-equipped to go after 18% of GDP in a system where that 18% of GDP can spend unlimited money on political influence.

But only the Republican party wants it to be that way, so strongly they've convinced themselves the Constitution demands it be that way.

-What alternative do you offer?
Single payer. But we don't a political party who wants it.
#69 | Posted by eberly

Cute
What alternative to Republicans offer?
They have literally nothing, and haven't for fifteen years.
There's no harm in acknowledging that.

"Is that question intended to represent a reason to not discuss the realities of ACA?"

The reason not to discuss the realities of ACA is this:

What's to discuss?

Feel free to open the discussion at any time.

You're missing the STFU part, loser. So you're educated but still dumb as a box of fckkin rocks.
#79 | Posted by lfthndthrds

I'm not losing my ACA subsidy.
You are.

Farmers are About to Pay a Lot More for Health Insurance

^
I found the losers you're looking for.

I'm actually a winner on this, by your logic.

No subsides, I pay lower taxes.

Thanks for letting the subsidies expire, Republicans!

You are incapable of understanding why I'm willing to pay a few extra pennies in taxes to subsidize farmers health insurance.

You've heard of empathy, but like a blind man facing the sunset, you will never experience it.

Not even when your children were born.

That was when you... knew.

If the Democratic Party got the White House and congress ... ..are you arguing Medicare for all has a chance?
#88 | Posted by eberly

It has a better chance!
Kinda depends on which Democrats.
Hakeem Jeffries Democrats, not so much.
AOC Democrats, getting warmer.

What I would expect is more Medicaid Expansion type stuff, which Republicans opposed until the math associated with a little thing we call "reality" became a problem. Kinda funny since that "reality" is money, and money itself is intrinsically of negligible value, but it's the only thing Republicans truly value at the end of the day.

Trump is slaughtering the goose that's been laying America's golden eggs for the past 80 years, and Republicans can't figure out if farmers need health insurance.

It's sad to see it all collapse, in real time, and Republicans can't see it happening, or won't lift a finger to save it, take your pick.

Take your pick; to not see, or to not care. Those are the two factions within the Republican Party.

"ALL costs have gone way up for farmers.
None of you give 2 ----- about any of it."

Not true, all us Democrats oppose the Trump tariffs. And the immigration camps.

You think I write "Trump is slaughtering the goose that's been laying America's golden eggs"

Because I don't care?

The whiskey is talking for you now, Eberly.

So it IS nothing more than a deflection from the challenges of ACA.
#98 | Posted by eberly

The Republicans doing nothing about the challenges of the ACA?
Why, it's nothing more than a deflection from the challenges of ACA!
--Eberly

"refuse to take ownership."

Who owns Congress right now?
Why don't they own their action -- or inaction?

~ It's sad to see it all collapse, in real time
At the hands of the very guy you voted for....
#95 | Posted by lfthndthrds

The guy I voted for...

Biden's still secrelty President, like Trump was, during the beginning of the Biden years?

Who owned Congress when ACA was passed
#107 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Democrats.

I won't bother asking the relevance, since I'm sure you're about to tell me...

And the democrats will keep their hands in their pockets this time?
Cause last time they had their hands out.
#105 | Posted by eberly at

Let's say it went down that way.
Why don't Republicans put their hand out?
What's the upside of not doing that?

A loser in the last stages of admitting the truth... STFU loser
#111 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Oh this should be good.
What "truth" do you think I'm afraid of?
You're hilarious when you get all emotional!

Maybe because it was better to do nothing??? Maybe STFU
#114 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Back then, Republicans did think it was better to do nothing..

Nobody's denying that.

But that's all spilled milk under the bridge, son.

We're talking about right now.

Why are Republicans not willing to do the subsides, right now?

When it's very clearly NOT better for the farmers for Republicans to do nothing.

Explain.

Likely that you still engage in risky activity that caused healthcare to rise. Oh, I don't know, maybe like risky sex? I wonder what gay sex did to healthcare prices? can you elaborate? How many died due to AIDS vs COVID?
#119 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Talk about your non sequiturs? I, the Democrat am in denial of HIV, but not Republicans including President Reagan, who didn't say "AIDS" until 1987?

Bonkers stuff happened to you making you this heavily gay and this heavily closeted.

The ? The subsidy is being taken away.
NOT the fact that a 55 year old couple is being charged $2,700 a month for a ------ plan.
#123 | Posted by eberly

Do these arguments sound good to you? Because this is just sophistry, begging the question.

You're trying to frame a dialogue in such a way as to deflect from the fact that you could completely write a new script.

Republicans are the only adults in the room who can address any and all of your injustice/crime, right now.

Apparently neither are injustices or crimes, based on Republican leadership.

When are you going to tell them?

"At the moment it appears their plan is to stop subsidizing health insurance companies who are gouging the living ---- out of me and my tax dollars because of these subsidies."

If you say so! How much did they get you for?

How much of your taxes went to ACA Subsidies, as either a percentage or a dollar amount? I bet we both agree it was next to nothing.

You think Republicans generally support screwing the farmers, then? Not Republicans in Congress, I mean your clients and such. ---- 'em, is that the chatter at the Waffle House and the Church Luncheon?

"How many people ignored the scientists and doctors and exposed themselves to a disease they knew had a 100% fatality rate?"

Smoking on Line 2.

"Yes when you figure that 44 Million have died of aids have been added to everything else we battle."

That isn't offset by the 40 million abortions?

You're the one who wants poor, sick babies forced to be born, not aborted if unwanted or unviable.

Snoofy is on experimental drugs...
#139 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Experimenting is for college.

You were just more interested in experimenting with penises and anuses in college.

Waffle House and the Church Luncheon?
#134 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-01-04 09:08 PM | Reply | Flag:
It's safer than bath house and massage parlor gay sex.
#142 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Yes, you can go back to your beloved bath houses now.
Just take your PrEP first, okay?

"Republicans have NEVER fixed the ACA, for fear of being primaried."

Republicans can't have a serious discussion about the ACA.

This one's talking about bath houses. That's one of the rare ones who will even say anything!

And I'll out live you - guaranteed
#146 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Aren't you like twenty years younger than me?

"AI says 44.1 million have died from aids. Did you miss that?"

It would be a whole lot higher if President George W. Bush hasn't started PEPFAR.

Thanks, President George W. Bush!

Though I'm pretty sure LftHndThrds would rather have us NOT spend millions to fight HIV in Africa.

I thought it was simply about cruelty
Not political reality.
You're letting the GOP off the hook a little ... .
#150 | Posted by eberly

In democracy, cruelty that gets you un-elected is disfavored. Political Reality.

That's why Republicans are so engaged on making it harder for the victims of their cruelty, and people who have sympathy for the innocent victims, to vote. Political Reality.

Can we let COVID morons have a 24 year learning curve?
#151 | Posted by eberly

We already do. Always have.

But the really intense learning usually only lasts about two weeks, before the learning opportunity comes to a close.

"learning curve"

Learning didn't make HIV deaths go down. It helps a little, but it didn't bend the curve.

AIDS deaths consistently rose, for almost two decades, until ARV drugs were developed.

"If you can say I'm a contributor to global warming because i drive a 1/2 ton pickup truck"

You got your license back, or do you mean just driving around the farm?

"It's a gay disease"

I wouldn't say that. HIV not really a significant concern for lesbians.

The biggest risk group is "men who have sex with men."

While there is some overlap, it is not the same group of people as "men who identify as gay," as you exemplify here daily.

No, just healthier.
#166 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Doubt.
Also doubt you are 54.

57 as of last fall, dumbass
#170 | Posted by lfthndthrds

I stand corrected.

and I'm going to read. bye old ----.
#172 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Whatcha reading?

Here's another dollar. Give it to JeffJ, he needs to buy some more barbecue sauce.

It's astonishingly awful how much you're hurting.