So yeah Trump may have the singular achievement of losing a war without even the temporary achievement of controlling some of the country

But he will declare he won, and that he achieved all his undeclared goals for starting the war.

#2 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGH

Will that open the strait of Hormuz?

We MIGHT do something stupid like grab Kharg Island which will be nothing more than a shooting gallery for our troops.

Or we might send the 82nd airborne and some special forces to dig out the nuclear material, which happens to be a few miles from a big city, so ummm, no support, waves of Iranians, ummm bad idea.

NOT GOING TO HAPPEN

So, no land attack.

We are once again left with the reminder that air power does not hold ground.

This is a war that Piggy CAN NOT WIN

There is ONLY the cost that will be incurred until Piggy comes to that realization.

Since Piggy is who Piggy is and Piggy does not admit mistakes and he cannot TACO (Israel and Iran have a word to say) I think a nuke is likely when he gets truly desperate.

For the record he sort of sent up a trial balloon today about nukes when he answered a question about the $200 billion funding request with a comment about the power of the weaponry our military has that could end this in 2 seconds.

CLEARLY, he has nukes on the brain.

And who here thinks Piggy wouldn't use a nuke if he thought he couldn't win. this is the man who wanted to nuke hurricanes. He has asked his military why he can't use nukes in the past.

That is it, that is all they have to do.

They don't even have to survive as a non-failed state-Afghanistan proved that even a failed state can win.

Trump will achieve a singular accomplishment. Losing a war without controlling a significant portion of that country.

That is truly an achievement.

Do yourself a favor and look at Iran's coastline along the Gulf and along the Gulf of Oman.

That is the coastline that our armed forces would have to seize unless there is an air landing further inland.

Let me explain to you. that is impossible with our current military.

We have like 450,000 active troops WORLDWIDE and double that if you include national guard.

Are any of the neighboring countries going to let us stage that force on their land?

NOPE

Even if they would, this would not be like the build up to the Iraq war, Iran could send drone after drone after drone

NOPE

No significant land grab will happen.

"land theft"
LOL

#105 | Posted by BellRinger at

Only an ignorant ---- would laugh at that given the West Bank and Syria and Gaza and now South Lebanon, but you do you.

Iran is NOT what propaganda says they are

While certainly repressive, they are no worse than many other ME countries and much of that repression comes from reaction to sanctions and ostracizing from the world

Iran and it's governance, while certainly religious, is also highly rational.

Iran is primarily Shia and does not have the suicidal end of times beliefs that the radical sunni/wahabbi muslims do.

America would be far better off if we had spent the last 47 years trying to forge relations with Iran instead of well what we have been doing. ---- we have good relations with Viet Nam

You can tell jeff is losing the debate because he refuses to answer questions and tries to insult me and, well, he always loses, so there is that

I'm a borderline Hall of Fame troll, Alexandrite. I easily elicit multiple responses with a single post. And it doesn't take any effort.
#27 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-04-06 05:42 PM

Look at the loser claim victory

Now run away ----

Iran has a stem graduate rate of 360 graduates per 100,000 population

America has a stem graduate rate of 205 graduates per 100,000 population

Jeff is an ignorant turd

I'm a borderline Hall of Fame troll, Alexandrite. I easily elicit multiple responses with a single post. And it doesn't take any effort.
#27 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-04-06 05:42 PM

But that is who you are, a soulless nihilistic troll.

Scum of the earth.

Reminder jeff, NO ONE around here has ANY respect for you.

" Sure, dumbass, explain again your metric. Population increase from 2000 to 2026, even though the genocide started and evolved with Israel's response to October 7"
Oh, so now: war=genocide.
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

#92 | Posted by BellRinger a

No troll, war is NOT genocide. Israel's genocide is genocide

you know the collective punishment, forced famine, forced relocation, destruction of homes, destruction of infrastructure, restriction on food and medicine, land theft, mass incarceration.

You know, genocide stuff

Stuff the Israeli government acknowledges doing

You've been told that. You lie.

They already suffered a major setback months ago. A number of their key scientists were killed. Good luck finding replacements willing to put their lives at risk. They need a lot of money and are almost having to start over from scratch. And prior to that strike several months ago they were actively pursuing nukes.

#90 | Posted by BellRinger a

No, they weren't per Tulsi Gabbard and the guy who quit yesterday. You are simply lying, no surprise there.

BTW Iran has 335,000 STEM graduates per year, so

Here's another question.

What are America's goals in the war on Iran?

Here is a simple question.

Is Iran's closing of the Strait of Hormuz causing significant damage to world economies?

Even broader terms, is the War on Iran causing significant damage to world economies?

Can you honestly answer those questions?

Genocidal.
Once again Twoothy using words that he has no idea of the actual definition.

#83 | Posted by BellRinger

Sure, dumbass, explain again your metric. Population increase from 2000 to 2026, even though the genocide started and evolved with Israel's response to October 7

You're a ------- idiot lying troll

" Iran wasn't pursing a nuke"
Barack Obama would like a word.

#82 | Posted by BellRinger

They weren't that is why Iran agreed to allow inspectors to confirm their ongoing commitment to that.

One thing is guaranteed, Iran WILL be pursuing nukes now.

The premise underpinning those questions is stupid. You are making predictions. None of which are even remotely likely to happen. You have a history of apocalyptic predictions that never even come close to materializing.

#80 | Posted by BellRinger

It is already happening dumbass

Oil up 50%

China is stopping exporting of fertilizer increasing the world wide loss in coming food production.

And Piggy is not 1 step closer to opening the strait.

Maybe you could explain to us TDS suffers how Iran will open the strait based on all of this bombing?

I'll do this for you. Let me summon all my sympathy for 17% of Qatari LNG exports being temporarily interrupted.
Speaking of Qatar, whatever happened to them expelling the Hamas leadership? "It's complicated".

#73 | Posted by sitzkrieg

I don't give a flying ----.

Why do you support a genocidal maniac?

Let me guess, I'm antisemitic for pointing out that fact.

We get it. You're heavily invested in oil & gas stocks lol. Should have bought futures.

#72 | Posted by sitzkrieg

Soon, the magat scum like you will be whining about their egg investments due to inflation.

This is what our Israeli & Gulf regional allies wanted. They knew what would happen. Do you rip off the bandaid before or after that same regime is nuclear capable?

#71 | Posted by sitzkrieg

Iran wasn't pursing a nuke

is the world safer for Iran NOT having a nuke?

Would this or any war be happening if Iran HAD a nuke?

Israel is learning that MAD can be achieved even without a nuke.

Here's hoping that if Israel uses a nuke that Iran successfully destroys Israel's nuclear and desalination plants.

So far this has been an almost unprecedented military success. Will that translate to a desired outcome? That's where I get skeptical. However to act like this is anything other than a complete massacre. It would be like Cumberland scoring a late garbage touchdown to make the score 222-7.

#74 | Posted by BellRinger

If you were sincere, you would not understand what is going on. But you're not sincere cause you're a troll.

How much destruction to the world's economy can Iran inflict?

How many people will pay the price for that destruction?

What will be the impact in the loss of 35% of the world's fertilizer at the start of the growing season for 70% of arable land?

What will be the impact on developing nations when the lights go off because they run out of fuel?

What will happen to inflation when the supply chain shortages start building up?

Since you're a selfish -----, what will be the impact to America from the massive refugee flow that will inevitably occur?

If you were to honestly answer ANY of those questions, the next question I would ask you is "Will this massacre you describe have any effect on preventing the damage Iran is causing?"

I know you won't respond with any level of sincerity or honest

Because you are a troll, IOW a lying piece of ----.

China restricts fertiliser exports, further tightening global supply amid Iran war
China is curtailing fertiliser exports to protect its domestic market, industry sources have told the Reuters news agency, placing additional strain on global markets already grappling with shortages caused by the US-Israeli war on Iran.

In mid-March, Beijing banned exports of nitrogen-potassium fertiliser blends and certain phosphate varieties, sources told Reuters.

According to the news agency, along with existing bans and export quotas for urea, only a handful of fertilisers " notably ammonium sulphate " can be exported from China, which would mean between half and three quarters of what China exported last year is now restricted, potentially up to 40 million metric tonnes, according to a Reuters estimate.

China is among the world's largest fertiliser exporters " shipping more than $13bn worth of it last year.

what could possibly go wrong.

Oh yeah, famine.

So if the investment manager recommends investing in Israel businesses and the MIC, the investor's non-financial interests should have no value?

interesting.

Like I said you're scum
Truly truly scum
#46 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-12 11:26 PMFlag: (Choose)FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusive
#46. That's a fair point.
#47 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-03-12 11:28 PM

I am just referring to the latest 9 months or so. And Piggy is chuckling it up with the PM of Japan about Pearl Harbor.

But, I agree, war crimes are hilarious. Wars of aggression are fun. Murder is truly a delight. Law? Who cares, amiright?

I mean being a soulless troll IS a way to go through life I suppose.

Being a nihilistic ---- can get lonely though.

Hilarious that Iran destroyed 17% of Qatar's LNG production that won't be fixed for 3 to 5 years, at best. That will cause gas prices to rise for decades

Hilarious how no amount of destruction wrought by A-10s and helicopters and 5,000 lb bombs can stop that. that is pretty darn funny.

Maybe a nuke or 2 will get Iran to surrender, or maybe not, maybe they will send a few missiles and destroy multiple desalination plants

Now, THAT would be funny

Hilarious that Iran destroyed 17% of Qatar's LNG production that won't be fixed for 3 to 5 years, at best. That will cause gas prices to rise for decades

Hilarious how no amount of destruction wrought by A-10s and helicopters and 5,000 lb bombs can stop that. that is pretty darn funny.

Maybe a nuke or 2 will get Iran to surrender, or maybe not, maybe they will send a few missiles and destroy multiple desalination plants

Now, THAT would be funny

It's funny that the Strait of Hormuz is shut down.

Pretty amazing amount of damage caused by such a ------ military power, isn't that so ----------?