#47 "The problem is the people."
You are 100% correct, TruthHurts

#48 | Posted by A_Friend

And the people will only change when forced to.

That force usually comes from starvation or bombs

"Because you seem to keep posting that transgender ads were the problem."
And you have an alternative?

Trump hammered Democrats on transgender issues. Now the party is at odds on a response
#44 | Posted by A_Friend

Yes I do have an alternative

Instill basic decency in the American populace.

I raised my kids to be decent people.

They wouldn't vote for a rapist

It will take generations to instill that in the American populace

Again, stuff like civil wars, global depressions and world wars are usually pretty good at resetting a populations' moral compass.

The regressive movement has been going on for centuries, they have won.

They have defeated liberalism.

Either start a revolution or accept your fate

"Because you seem to keep posting that transgender ads were the problem."
And you have an alternative?

Trump hammered Democrats on transgender issues. Now the party is at odds on a response
#44 | Posted by A_Friend a

Piggy stood on a stage and ranted about people eating cats and dogs.

It should not have been close

The problem was not the message, if it weren't transgenderism, it would have been eating cats and dogs or the murderous raping gangs of brown people or the sky is falling because of Biden/Harris.

It would have been anything.

The problem is the fertile field that sucked that ---- up.

The problem is the people.

Sorry Lamp there is no subtlety needed, we are beyond subtlety

The problem with America does not begin and end with democracy the problem is America is evil

We are doing evil things and they are barely even mentioned as such.

they are not framed as the great evil that they are.

We fought world wars to stop countries committing the crimes that we are committing and abetting.

Evil deserves retribution.

A person so full of hate and LACKING compassion...

#26 "The American people are responsible."
Why, yes they are.
Why can you not take Yes for an answer?

#33 | Posted by A_Friend

Because you seem to keep posting that transgender ads were the problem.

When the problem is an American electorate so devoid of morality as to hate an infinitely small number of people that they don't know, that have zero power and have zero negative influence on society.

A person so full of hate and compassion and so stupid to think that a transgender person has any impact on their lives is too stupid and to evil to make an ethical/rational choice

Messaging is not the problem. The problem is the 10s of millions of people raised without basic humanity.

#28 So?

#31 | Posted by A_Friend

Teach Americans basic human dignity, basic morals, basic empathy.

Nothing else will matter.

FWIW typically that will take a massive tectonic shift is cultural usually achieved through major wars or global depressions.

Starving to death will have a way of focusing one's attention on what really matters.

Post that a few more times A Friend it still won't be relavent.

The messaging wasn't the problem.

The problem is that Americans were not raised right, were not raised with critical thinking skills, were not raised with ethics

Dems could have spent a trillion dollars countering that -------- and IT WOULDN'T HAVE MATTERED.

Eggs cost more therefore Piggy save us.

Americans had a duty to not re elect Piggy

They failed

This is on them.

#17 The American people did no such thing.
Less than half of those eligible to vote voted in 2024.
Barely half of those voted for the Trumpf.
Doesn't equate to the American people choosing anything (except, perhaps, apathy).

#23 | Posted by A_Friend

Not voting is a choice

They chose knowing the ramifications

The American people are responsible.

Agreed.
Can you not take Yes for an answer?

#18 | Posted by A_Friend

We are discussing why the dems lost in 2024.

I hear only myself pointing the finger at where it belongs. The morons who voted for a rapist, felon, conman insurrectionist liar.

NO MESSAGE WOULD HAVE CHANGED THAT

It shouldn't have been close

Israel and AIPAC had almost zero effect on the 2024 election.
Of course not.
Nothing did other than Harris being a woman of color.
Americans are just racist misogynists and chose and orange man over a black woman.

#16 | Posted by ClownShack

I contend this is not correct.

I contend Piggy would have defeated a lily white cis-hetero church going moderate dem

Because the American people are evil.

#12 Because Israel and AIPAC had almost zero effect on the 2024 election.
Thanks, Clown.

#13 | Posted by A_Friend

Why was Piggy reelected given he was so obviously unqualified and unworthy?

Specifically, why did the American people CHOOSE him?

#7 Gosh, TruthHurts ... nothing in there about Israel or AIPAC.
And, yet, you took me to task?

#10 | Posted by A_Friend

America is evil. Israel is evil

If America were not evil, Piggy wouldn't be president.

Prove me wrong.

Truth Hurts Donut

America deserves the destruction that he is reaping.
While I don't disagree with you.
I'd prefer it not to be happening.
But America isn't the first nation to fail because of the shortsightedness of stupid people.

#8 | Posted by ClownShack

---- that, America has become evil. Evil needs to be expunged.

I remind you we are aiding and abetting a genocide. We are aiding and abetting pogroms and land grabs and torturing children.

That is evil

We started an unjustifiable illegal war of aggression by assassinating a country's leaders with a cowardly murderous bombing that killed infants.

We did that during negotiations, without declaration without warning. TWICE

That is evil

We are killing Venezuelan fisherman on a regular basis

That is evil

We have put an illegal embargo of oil on Cuba resulting the deaths of children. There is no justification for that. There is no reason other than some Miami Cubans want to get rich with Cuban real estate.

That is ------- evil

America is doing this.

We are not stopping Piggy from doing this

America is evil and bad things should happen to evil people.

To be clear all this autopsy and navel gazing is about messaging.

if we did that or said this, Americans would have voted differently.

this is patently ridiculous.

No candidate who rants about eating cats and dogs and concepts of a plan for healthcare and promises of retribution should EVER have a chance at the presidency.

No candidate so singularly ignorant on every topic and singularly arrogant that he is the smartest person in the room. So OBVIOUSLY ignorant, so OBVIOUSLY a liar, so OBVIOUSLY malicious, with a fifth graders vocabulary and the expression of a greasy used car dealer should ever have had a chance.

No this is not about Gaza, or transgenderism or Biden's age or AIPAC or distancing from Biden or inflation.

It is about an electorate who couldn't look at Piggy and realize that he should never be allowed to gain the presidency, let alone for a second time.

A country that stupid, that hateful DESERVES the collapse of our nation that is coming.

You asked for it, you get it.

The ----- of truth rarely comes with lube.

Kamala Harris lost because of the moral bankruptcy of the American electorate

She lost to a conman, felon, rapist insurrectionist liar.

It should not have been close

Due to the moral failings of the American people, no democratic candidate would have won.

Because Americans are: Stupid, Venal, Willfully Ignorant, Bigoted and Hateful

If you can't tell what Piggy is within 1 minute of listening to him your critical thinking skills suck.

But Americans had years of him.

And chose him anyway.

America deserves the destruction that he is reaping.