JD Vance Spreads Outrageous Lie About Haitian Immigrants

Tuesday, September 10, 2024

Former President Donald Trump and Sen. JD Vance have made anti-immigrant hate the centerpiece of their campaign for the White House, and that campaign stooped to a new low Monday. Vance amplified bogus "reports" that "people have had their pets abducted and eaten by people who shouldn't be in this country." First of all, the claim is false: There are no credible reports that "people who shouldn't be in this country" are eating pets.

Posted by tonyroma at 09:32 PM | 39 COMMENTS | permalink

Comments

The false claim is part of Trump and his supporters' yearslong pattern of painting immigrants with a broad brush as rapists and murders, even invoking the fictional film "Gangs of New York and the fictional serial killer and cannibal Hannibal Lecter - whom Trump has invoked nonstop in recent months to describe immigrants.

These claims about immigrants being especially prone to crime run counter to all available data, which show that immigrants break fewer laws than Americans who were born here.

The lies are all part of Trump and Vance's justification for pitching a "mass deportation" of millions of people, which by their and their advisers' own admission would involve a "bloody" police state and huge processing camps.

Does it really need to be said that this blog should not be a vehicle to stoke bigotry and hatred based on intentional lies, especially with this nation's democracy at risk in the coming presidential election?

BREAKING: An Ohio woman has allegedly killed and eaten a cat in front of shocked neighbors.

nitter.poast.org

"Ohio woman" means "woman who is currently physically present in Ohio"?
Because this woman is Haitian, and is just doing exactly what Haitians do

Posted by organ_bank at 2024-09-09 08:56 AM

#1 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-09-09 04:00 PM

The goobers never really recovered from the shock of Obama's election and reelection. And now ... a black woman?!? The poor dears are approaching total Chicken Little meltdown. Well, eff em.

And of course, Cancun Cruz took to the Twitterverse, hyping the same bogus narrative.

Ted Cruz Condemned For Posting Racist Lie About Immigrants Eating Pets

Scum is as scum does....

... Sen. JD Vance have made anti-immigrant hate the centerpiece of their campaign for the White House, and that campaign stooped to a new low Monday. Vance amplified bogus "reports" that "people have had their pets abducted and eaten by people who shouldn't be in this country." First of all, the claim is false: ...

W.h.a.t...i.s...w.r.o.n.g...w.i.t.h...h.i.m?

More from the cited article...

... What Is Vance Actually Talking About?

The Trump campaign did not respond to HuffPost's questions. But it appears Vance was responding to a collection of rumors and baseless internet posts related to immigrants living in Ohio -- all breathlessly amplified by Trump-aligned social media accounts.

In one instance, a social media post purportedly from Springfield, Ohio, that's been making the rounds includes the claim that the unnamed poster's neighbor's daughter's friend -- say that five times fast -- lost her cat, then later found the cat hanging from a tree outside her Haitian neighbor's house. It's impossible to verify such a fourth-hand claim, but no news stories indicate anything similar happening recently. And Springfield police told the News-Sun Monday that while they were aware of the rumor on social media, they hadn't actually received any reports related to pets being stolen and eaten. ...

Ohio police have 'no credible reports' of Haitian immigrants harming pets, contradicting JD Vance's claim
www.nbcnews.com

... Police in Springfield, Ohio, said Monday they had received no credible reports of immigrants harming pets, contradicting a claim by Republican vice presidential nominee Sen. JD Vance.

The senator from Ohio, as well as other Republican lawmakers and several conservative commentators, have in recent days asserted without evidence that the arrival of thousands of immigrants from Haiti had created chaos in Springfield.

In a post on X, Vance wrote Monday that "people have had their pets abducted and eaten by people who shouldn't be in this country."

The Springfield Police Division said in a statement that they were aware of the "rumors" and had no information to support them.

"In response to recent rumors alleging criminal activity by the immigrant population in our city, we wish to clarify that there have been no credible reports or specific claims of pets being harmed, injured or abused by individuals within the immigrant community," the police said in a statement emailed to NBC News.

They added that they had no information to support similar assertions about immigrants squatting or disrupting traffic.

"Additionally, there have been no verified instances of immigrants engaging in illegal activities such as squatting or littering in front of residents' homes. Furthermore, no reports have been made regarding members of the immigrant community deliberately disrupting traffic," the police said. ...

Reminds me of the time the DR bush apologists, who now call bush a rhino incidentally, insisted bush didn't lie about wmd because it isn't a lie if you really believe it

I suspect we will see that same logic being used here in the near future

I dunno.

At this point, I view the Trump/Vance campaign as in a need to expand their base.

So that leads me to ask, how does Sen Vance's comment pull in new voters?

JayDee: Put it in a sock.

All of this was utterly bonkers, even by 2024 standards. The Haitians in Springfield are in the country legally; they've been there for decades; and there were no actual "reports" about the immigrants stealing and eating pets. The nonsense spread like wildfire on the right, but it had no basis in reality.

Nevertheless, folks like conspiratorial billionaire Elon Musk and Republican Sen. Ted Cruz - whose affection for reckless misinformation appears limitless - seized on racist right-wing chatter and treated the insane theory as a legitimate story.

After NBC News asked the Vance campaign about the lack of evidence for his claim, a spokesperson said that the senator had received "a high volume of calls and emails over the past several weeks from concerned citizens in Springfield" and that "his tweet is based on what he is hearing from them." The spokesperson did not say, however, whether any of those calls or emails had included evidence of violence against pets, and did not offer proof of Vance's statements.

The idea of applying critical thinking skills never entered the picture. The vice presidential hopeful isn't a leader, so much as he's a follower of frenzied conservatives who saw some racist garbage on Facebook.

Steve Benen

"Before Vance, neo-Nazis helped spread the debunked claims

The now-refuted claim appears to have gotten its start online in early August, when a user on the far-right social platform Gab with the screen name "bri ory" commented on photos of members of the white supremacist neo-Nazi group Blood Tribe marching through Springfield protesting Haitian migrants and carrying swastika flags.

The commenter claimed that "once haitians swarm into a town animals start to disappear."

Later in August, a resident named Anthony Harris claimed at a Springfield City Commission meeting that the migrants were eating ducks in the park. A member of the same neo-Nazi group also attended the meeting, and the group later echoed that claim on Gab. Days later, it appeared on X."

Haitian immigrants in Springfield have been the targets of rumors for some time, as NPR reported last month.

Republican committee woman Glenda Bailey has become one of the loudest voices against Haitian migration, publicly accusing the community of having diseases, carrying out voodoo rites and being involved in gangs.

She has also spoken at length about "great replacement theory," the baseless belief that there is a movement to replace white populations in current white-majority countries.

"Some of the Haitians are gang members," she told NPR. "I've seen them. They have become the occupiers. What they've done is they've replaced the population in Springfield, Ohio."

The Springfield Police Division told NPR in August that such claims were troubling.

"I think it's sad that some people are using this as an opportunity to spread hate or spread fear," said Jason Via, deputy director of public safety and operations.

"We get these reports 'the Haitians are killing ducks in a lot of our parks' or 'the Haitians are eating vegetables right out of the aisle at the grocery store.' And we haven't really seen any of that. It's really frustrating. As a community, it's not helpful as we try to move forward."

www.npr.org

Apparently it's possible these days to piss off local law enforcement with your stupid Culture War Lies, while gaining important Clicks on your media sites.

It's Gangsterism, not Business or even Politics.

No one has thought to film them killing ducks in the park?

There's no video evidence of them doing crazy s*** in a grocery store?

It's what people in Ohio have been telling him.

#12

"A man hears what he wants to hear, and disregards the rest."

Kinda like you and Trump's J6 crimes being... unimportant considering this or that mundane thing about Harris.

I have seen a picture of a person, possible Haitian, carrying a dead Canada goose by its neck. What is not known is how recent the picture is or whether the goose was killed illegally. It could have already been dead when he found it. He may have had a proper license and killed it during hunting season. I definitely require more proof than just rumors.

I definitely require more proof than just rumors.

That's mighty white of you Bell.

...a person, possible Haitian, carrying a dead Canada goose by its neck.

Good.

The Springfield Police Division"

That sounds like Court level proof it isn't happening.

a person, possible Haitian, carrying a dead Canada goose by its neck.

I'll call the line at personal pets, but welcome the refugees to take on the protected menace that are Canadian geese. Those birds are horrible.

J.D. Vance is a dirtbag.

So's stinkerbell.

Post #12 came along and totally validated post #6

This dude is so predictable, regardless of user name. It's another major spanking

Say what you will, but apparently it made quite an impression, on Trump at least.

So much so, that Hair Furor brought it up during the debate. Might be the only thing anyone takes away from his performance.

Fun fact, like many many other things. This will turn out not to be a lie

#22
The Broken Clock Can Still Tell Time Defense

This will turn out not to be a lie

It's already CONFIRMED to be a lie. Weak minds bring weaker prognostications.

There was a female American citizen in Canton Ohio with mental issues that did kill and eat a cat and was arrested by police there.

She isn't Haitian, nor is she a recent immigrant. She was a person having a mental health crisis in the most heinous way.

Leave it to Trump and the right wing cesspool to turn a tragic incident into a racist attack on immigrants of color.