Tuesday, October 15, 2024

Trump Escalates Rhetoric on Outlawing Political Criticism

Donald Trump is ramping up his rhetoric depicting his political rivals and critics as criminals, while dropping a long trail of suggestions that he favors outlawing political speech that he deems misleading or challenges his claims to power.

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... In a speech Friday in Aurora, Colorado, the Republican presidential nominee blasted the immigration system and lobbed a rhetorical grenade at his Democratic rival, Vice President Kamala Harris.

"She's a criminal. She's a criminal," said Trump, who was found guilty of 34 felony counts of falsifying business records in his New York hush money trial. "She really is, if you think about it."

It's a pattern of messaging that has long been part of Trump's stump speeches but has escalated significantly in his 2024 candidacy. In the final stretch to the Nov. 5 election, the former president has developed a tendency to claim that speech he disapproves of is illegal, even if it is protected by the First Amendment. ...



#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-14 02:58 PM

---- that fat traitorous pile of ----.

#2 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-10-14 03:29 PM

And when he does it, the response from righties here (assuming we even talk about it...) will be "but this is what you liberals wanted, isn't it? why are you upset that he's doing what you want?" even though that's a. not true and b. a typical dodge that will allow them to avoid condemning it as forcefully as they have the boogeyman version of it they talk about now.

#3 | Posted by jpw at 2024-10-14 07:05 PM

So he's promising to do exactly what the Dem censorship complex has been doing?

This sucks. Retaliation is the wrong response.

#4 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-10-16 12:21 AM

" ... the Dem censorship complex"

I'll take Seriously Stupid for $1,600, Mr. Jennings.

#5 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-10-16 01:44 AM

"You can't take too much ivermectin"
~The Bellringers of the world

"Claims like that are deadly. People are dying from ivermectin overdoses."
~The Gub'mint

"We've asked non-political experts, and they agree with the government, so we agree with the government. In the name of public safety, we'll take that post down."
~TwitBoards

"CENSORSHIP!"
~Bell

#6 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-10-16 01:58 AM

So he's promising to do exactly what the Dem censorship complex has been doing?

This sucks. Retaliation is the wrong response.

#4 | Posted by BellRinger

Seriously, seek out mental health professionals. If you can't afford it you should be able to find a pay-what-you-can clinic.

#7 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2024-10-16 02:00 AM

This is under NBC news but it reads l8ke it was written by a rabid Pelosi staffer.

#8 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-10-16 02:08 AM

So Danforth all of a sudden pretends to care about government censorship?

Wow! I wonder how this is (D)ifferent?

#9 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-10-16 02:09 AM

"a long trail of suggestions that he favors outlawing political speech that he deems misleading or challenges his claims to power."

Trump is plagiarizing the Russian constitution again.

#10 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-10-16 05:52 AM

Bellrung couldn't even wait for Trump to do it before exactly what I said he'd do in the post immediately before his laughable post.

But then again, he thinks regurgitating nonsense from Jonathan Turley is crafting an argument...

#11 | Posted by jpw at 2024-10-16 09:19 AM

"You can't take too much ivermectin"
~The Bellringers of the world

"Claims like that are deadly. People are dying from ivermectin overdoses."
~The Gub'mint

"We've asked non-political experts, and they agree with the government, so we agree with the government. In the name of public safety, we'll take that post down."
~TwitBoards

"CENSORSHIP!"
~Bell

#6 | Posted by Danforth

Notice Jeff NEVER responds to this?

He whines about Censorship like the 1st Amendment is absolute.

Dems want to take down fake doctors giving out deadly medical advice and foreign agents spreading foreign propaganda. Jeff froths at the mouth.

Trump wants to take down and prosecute anyone criticizing him or his judges. And he goes right back to Dems are the real censors.

#12 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-10-16 10:24 AM

Trump wants CBS license revoked; FCC chair explains that isn't going to happen
arstechnica.com

... Trump's "threats against free speech are serious," Jessica Rosenworcel says.

Federal Communications Commission Chairwoman Jessica Rosenworcel today slammed Donald Trump for his repeated attacks on TV news networks. Trump, the former president and current presidential candidate, has been calling for licenses to be revoked from TV news organizations whose coverage he dislikes.

"While repeated attacks against broadcast stations by the former President may now be familiar, these threats against free speech are serious and should not be ignored," Rosenworcel said in a statement issued today. "As I've said before, the First Amendment is a cornerstone of our democracy. The FCC does not and will not revoke licenses for broadcast stations simply because a political candidate disagrees with or dislikes content or coverage."

The FCC press release said that Rosenworcel issued the statement "after repeated calls by former President Trump to revoke the licenses of broadcast stations for political reasons."

"TAKE AWAY THE CBS LICENSE," Trump wrote in a post today criticizing the editing of a 60 Minutes interview with his election opponent, Vice President Kamala Harris. Trump wrote in another post that "60 Minutes is a major part of the News Organization of CBS, which has just created the Greatest Fraud in Broadcast History. CBS should lose its license, and it should be bid out to the Highest Bidder, as should all other Broadcast Licenses, because they are just as corrupt as CBS"and maybe even WORSE!" ...

In October 2017, when Trump was president, he criticized NBC and wrote that "network news has become so partisan, distorted and fake that licenses must be challenged and, if appropriate, revoked." Democrats on the FCC and in Congress immediately rebuked Trump. ...



#13 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-16 11:03 AM

" So Danforth all of a sudden pretends to care about government censorship?"

You're either pretending to be too dumb to know the difference between misinformation and malinformation ...

... or you're not pretending.

Since I'm a gentleman, I'll let you tell us: are you stupid, or malevolent?

#14 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-10-16 11:34 AM

" Since I'm a gentleman, I'll let you tell us: are you stupid, or malevolent?

#14 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2024-10-16 11:34 AM | FLAG: "

Neither. I'm well hung.

#15 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-10-16 12:15 PM

Neither. I'm well hung.

#15 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

So that is what you think with.

Explains a lot.

#16 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-10-16 12:23 PM

Be honest, Donnerboy. You've thought with that too at certain times.

#17 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-10-16 12:33 PM

#17 | Posted by JeffJ/Bellringer at 2024-10-16 12:33 PM | Reply | Flag: Still awaiting word on this book

#18 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-16 12:35 PM

You've thought with that too at certain times.

#17 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

lol. Thought about what? How well you are hung?

Nope. I have wondered a lot what the hell IS wrong with you though.

And if you are always thinking with your lizard dick brain that would indeed explain a lot.

#19 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-10-16 12:38 PM

I thought we were enjoying a bit of much needed levity.

Why go to attack mode?

#20 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-10-16 12:47 PM

#20
Possibly because you're fantasizing about another guy's junk? Just a guess.

#21 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2024-10-16 12:50 PM

" Possibly because you're fantasizing about another guy's junk? "

I said I am well hung. That's not another guy's junk it's my own.

#22 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-10-16 12:52 PM

I thought we were enjoying a bit of much needed levity.

Why go to attack mode?

#20 | Posted by BellRinger

If bellringer is hiding behind "levity" then you know he's on a thread he can't defend.

Just make jokes about trump's fascist goals before you go vote for his fascist agenda.

#23 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-10-16 01:02 PM

I said I am well hung. That's not another guy's junk it's my own.
#22 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Still digging ...

#24 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2024-10-16 01:09 PM

I said I am well hung. That's not another guy's junk it's my own.
#22 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Still digging ...

Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2024-10-16 01:09 PM | Reply

It's too short to dig very far. Just sayin.

#25 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-10-16 01:17 PM

"I said I am well hung."

#22 | Posted by JeffJ/Bellringer at 2024-10-16 12:52 PM | Reply | Flag: Still awaiting word on this book

#27 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-16 01:26 PM

Oct 1, 2024Former Secretary of State John Kerry said at the World Economic Forum that the First Amendment is a "major block" to combatting disinformation and that he would like to "hammer it out of existence"

#26 | Posted by commnotes

He's referring to russia's troll army that uses our free speech and internet against us.

Of course that enrages republicans, who have teamed up with russia to destroy america.

#28 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-10-16 02:22 PM

#28 | Posted by SpeakSoftly

The useful tools of the Russians, Chinese, Iranians, et al. don't see it that way. They are like a bass that swallowed the bait - hook, line and sinker. You can't get that hook out is is buried so deep in them.

#29 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2024-10-16 03:19 PM

#26 | Posted by commnotes

Of course the government wants to combat disinformation. Think about it not like a moron. A differing viewpoint is one thing but when you are being manipulated by the propaganda campaign of America's enemies get reall.

"Normal" Social Media platforms do it out of patriotism here and in other countries laws against it.

#30 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2024-10-16 03:21 PM

Disinformation is a catch all phrase lefties use as justification to censor viewpoints they dislike.

The best way to counter disinformation? An open platform for people to counter it. We don't need and really shouldn't want government to be policing this. The hyper paternalism of the left is nauseating.

#31 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-10-16 03:50 PM

#31 | Posted by JeffJ/Bellringer at 2024-10-16 03:50 PM | Reply | Flag: Still awaiting word on this book

#32 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-16 03:58 PM

@#31 ... Disinformation is a catch all phrase lefties use as justification to censor viewpoints they dislike. ...

Your current alias keeps posting vague comments about alleged Democratic censorship, but doesn't give examples.

#33 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-16 04:01 PM

The hyper paternalism of the left is nauseating."

#31 | Posted by JeffJ/Bellringer

Not the "left"
Yeah, that's nauseating.

Meanwhile, still awaiting word on this book

#34 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-16 04:09 PM

- censor viewpoints they dislike.

Facts and Trumpers are like two ships passing in the night.

As a matter of fact, one of those ships doesn't believe the other even exists.

#35 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-16 04:11 PM

"...but doesn't give examples." -

#33 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-16 04:01 PM

They're still trying to figure out how to post this.

#36 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-16 04:14 PM

BullBringer loves censorship.

He cheered on Florida's Don't Say Gay legislation.

He supports shutting down libraries and banning book.

He applauded removing Black history from school curriculum.

The man loves censorship, when conservatives do it.

#37 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-10-16 04:19 PM

" Disinformation is a catch all phrase lefties use as justification to censor viewpoints they dislike. "

Now explain malinformation, and tell us if you're for or against it.

#38 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-10-16 04:36 PM

The best way to counter disinformation? An open platform for people to counter it. We don't need and really shouldn't want government to be policing this. The hyper paternalism of the left is nauseating.

#31 | Posted by BellRinger

Is it the responsibility of the government to defend the nation from hostile foreign attack?

#39 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-10-16 04:45 PM

" We don't need and really shouldn't want government to be policing this."

People were dying from ivermectin poisoning, while others online were loudly swearing you couldn't overdose on ivermectin.

At what point does "the general welfare" enter the equation? Because "NEVER" is an unacceptable answer.

#40 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-10-16 05:03 PM

I'm pretty sure BullBringer doesn't believe his own words.

He's a lonely man that needs some attention so he posts highly inflammatory comments so people will communicate with him

Sad existence.

#41 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-10-16 05:10 PM

" Now explain malinformation, and tell us if you're for or against it.

#38 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2024-10-16 04:36 PM | FLAG: |"

Irrelevant. We have anti libel laws. We have laws criminalizing false advertising. We have defamation laws (ask Trump about that).

What we don't have are laws permitting the government to censor disfavored speech either directly or through a private sector proxy.

1A:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances

#42 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-10-16 09:11 PM

Irrelevant. We have anti libel laws. We have laws criminalizing false advertising. We have defamation laws (ask Trump about that).

What we don't have are laws permitting the government to censor disfavored speech either directly or through a private sector proxy.

1A:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances

#42 | Posted by BellRinger

You call it "disfavored."

The 1st Amendment doesn't protect foreign actors.
The 1st Amendment doesn't protect speech meant to cause violence or imminent lawless action.
The 1st Amendment doesn't protect fake doctors from providing medical advice.

Why do you ignore this every single time?

#43 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-10-17 11:20 AM

The hyper paternalism of the left is nauseating.

#31 | Posted by BellRinger

You are against the government going after misinformation from hostile foreign governments that is physically harmful to Americans but you are perfectly ok with women being forced by (men) to have rape babies?

There is something broken in maga republicans brain housing group.

Dallas News
www.dallasnews.com

Jan 25, 2024 " Texas has had an estimated 26,000 rape-related pregnancies since the state enacted its abortion bans, according to new research ...

#44 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-10-17 12:15 PM

" Why do you ignore this every single time?

#43 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT AT 2024-10-17 11:20 AM | FLAG: "

The solution then is to prosecute individuals who do those things. It's not an open door for the government to engage in censorship. I printed the 1st Amendment above. Nowhere will you see, "except for information the left disfavors."

#45 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-10-17 01:30 PM

The solution then is to prosecute individuals who do those things. It's not an open door for the government to engage in censorship. I printed the 1st Amendment above. Nowhere will you see, "except for information the left disfavors."

#45 | Posted by BellRinger

Is it the government's responsibility to protect the nation from hostile foreign attacks?

Or does the 1st amendment protect KGB agents too?

#46 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-10-17 01:36 PM

TOTALLY NORMAL BEHAVIOR; right, Bellringer?

#47 | Posted by e1g1 at 2024-10-17 02:07 PM

" Irrelevant. We have anti libel laws."

You're a moron.

You can't overdose on potentially fatal poison" crosses the line, especially when Americans are dying from ivermectin overdoses.

LIBEL has nothing to do with it, dumfuq.

#48 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-10-18 05:15 PM

"What we don't have are laws permitting the government to censor disfavored speech"

Nonsense.

Falsely claiming "FIRE" is disfavored speech. And why? Because it negligently puts others in danger, just like You can't OD on horse paste.

#49 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-10-18 06:48 PM

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