Progressives warn Harris not to take them for granted

Saturday, October 26, 2024

Progressive Democrats warn Kamala Harris risks losing the support of a small but significant portion of her political base unless she changes her campaign's closing message " and its messengers " immediately. Specifically, several progressive leaders believe that the Democratic nominee has been too focused on winning over moderate Republicans in recent days at the expense of her own party's passionate liberals. And they say that Harris' closing message, which is increasingly centered on Republican Donald Trump and the threat he poses to U.S. democracy, ignores the economic struggles of the nation's working class. Some far-left leaders are also irked that Harris has shared the stage in recent days with former House Republican leader Liz Cheney and billionaire businessman Mark Cuban while progressive icons like Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders and New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez have been relegated to low-profile roles.

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Progressives warn Harris not to take them for granted

Is that "progressive" you, Gracie? Are you going to vote for Jill Stein 2024! unless Kamala comes to heel?

#1 | Posted by censored at 2024-10-27 01:35 PM

"Some far-left leaders are also irked that Harris has shared the stage in recent days with former House Republican leader Liz Cheney and billionaire businessman Mark Cuban while progressive icons like Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders and New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez have been relegated to low-profile roles."

Exactly. They are trying to win. Sanders and Cortez don't help with the moderates in swing states the way folks like Cuban and Cheney will.

They're irked because they can't accept where their role lies. And where it doesn't.

Excellent, Eb.... very true.

Also... progressives are not, "far-left", no matter what far-righties might 'think'.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
@AOC

We're going LIVE NOW on Twitch with @Tim_Walz, join us at Twitch.tv
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Tim Walz and AOC are going to play Madden together on Twitch

Governor Tim Walz is returning to Twitch and this time, he'll actually be playing a game. Earlier this month, Kamala Harris' campaign teamed up with a Twitch streamer to live-stream a Walz rally as part of a World of Warcraft stream. But on Sunday afternoon, Walz will be playing Madden NFL on Twitch with Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's (D-NY).
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"New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez have been relegated to low-profile roles."

Not in Pa. AOC has been working hard in PA, speaking to many groups as well as canvassing in the state for Harris/Walz:

AOC in State College, PA:

Kamala for PA
@KamalaforPA

If you're feeling anxious about the future, you're not alone.

But as @AOC told students at State College, the best antidote to anxiety is action.

Take action today to elect @KamalaHarris and @Tim_Walz

go.kamalaharris.com

AOCin Reading, PA:

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
@AOC

Let's call a spade a spade.

Working class people need to work twice as hard to get half as far.

So do Black Americans, women, immigrants, and people of color.

Kamala Harris must work ten times as hard as Donald Trump to ensure his defeat - and so must we.
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AOC in Philly:

UAW
@UAW

Join the Harris-Walz Campaign TODAY for a Get Out the Early Vote rally in Philadelphia with Congresswoman @AOC and @ShawnFainUAW!
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AOC in Allentown, PA:

Oliver Hidalgo-Wohlleben
@OliverHidWoh
Good morning from Allentown, PA!
@AOC is launching hundreds of bilingual canvassers with 1000+ vols today alone alone Lehigh County.

@TeamAOC has been helping fill these buses for weeks while AOC has been traveling battleground states
and frontline districts.
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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
@AOC
Reading will decide this election.
Allentown will decide this election.
Philly will decide this election.
In a race this close, every single ballot will decide this election.

Let's do this, Pennsylvania.

TODAY is the LAST DAY to register: pavoterservices.pa.gov

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Sanders and Cortez don't help with the moderates in swing states the way folks like Cuban and Cheney will.
They're irked because they can't accept where their role lies. And where it doesn't.
#2 | Posted by eberly

They have sent AOC to speak and canvass where she can be most helpful to the campaign: with college students, union workers, Hispanics in the in the northeast corner of the state and people of color in Philadelphia.

Anyway, it's right there in the article:

"Ocasio-Cortez made three stops in swing-state Pennsylvania last week on Harris' behalf. United Auto Workers President Shawn Fain, a key Harris ally, has also been a steady presence on the campaign trail."

As far as I can tell AOC is doing the good work as a Harris/Walz surrogate.

As far as I can tell AOC is doing the good work as a Harris/Walz surrogate.

She is, but I think people are forgetting candidates usually run to the middle during the general elections.

How did Harris lose the Muslim vote?

Gal you got the HansFever?

Kamala HQ
@KamalaHQ
Gov. Walz and @AOC react to this clip: "When you have some ----- calling Puerto Rico floating garbage,' know that that's what they think about you. It's what they think about anyone who makes less money than them ... I want every Puerto Rican in Philadelphia and Reading and across the country to see this clip"

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"I want every Puerto Rican in Philadelphia and Reading and across the country to see this clip"

#11 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday

Hundreds of thousands of Puerto Ricans moved to the I-4 corridor in Florida after Hurricane Maria devastated Puerto Rico.

They remember Trump throwing paper towels, disparaging the mayor of PR, and being rather nonchalant about aid in the aftermath. Trump reportedly didn't know - and had to be told! - Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens.

This on top of that won't help national Republican candidates in Florida this election ...

PS GAL

As pointed out in the video clip of Gov. Walz and AOC, Philadelphia, Reading, and other cities in Pennsylvania have lots of Puerto Ricans too. It'd be ironic (and Karmic, IMO) if Trump's MAGA rhetoric and self-run campaign of hate was what single-handedly blew his shot at another term so he'll be free to wear ankle bracelets and spend the rest of his life in courtrooms.

That comedian picked the perfectly wrong place and time to utter that racist drivel. Especially considering how Trump showed Puerto Ricans how little he cared about them in the aftermath of Maria.

#10 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-10-27 05:57 PM | Reply | Flag:

I'm just asking questions.

-As far as I can tell AOC is doing the good work as a Harris/Walz surrogate.

If some of the folks quoted in the article don't like that she's not being asked to do more, then tough.

And if Harris wins, they're better off than the alternative which they have to know.

@#15 ... Especially considering how Trump showed Puerto Ricans how little he cared about them in the aftermath of Maria. ...

Agreed.

The good people of Puerto Rico are American citizens.

Yes, however there is a caveat...

Are Puerto Ricans US Citizens?
nomadcapitalist.com

My guess would be that fmr Pres trump dislikes Puerto Ricans because the color of their skin is not European-white.

www.showbiz411.com

She is, but I think people are forgetting candidates usually run to the middle during the general elections.
How did Harris lose the Muslim vote?
#9 | Posted by oneironaut

If you think Trump is currently running to the middle, you've lost your marbles.

Progressives warn Harris not to take them for granted
POSTED BY GRACIEAMAZED

Thanks for your concern trolling, ----.

@#9 ... She is, but I think people are forgetting candidates usually run to the middle during the general elections. ...

I'm not forgetting that.

Indeed, I've been using that observation to counter the GOP's quotes of VP Harris during her primary run for the Presidency.

So, maybe, the GOP needs to remember that observation.

What else yer current alias got?

@#20 ... If you think Trump is currently running to the middle, you've lost your marbles. ...

Perhaps that current alias truly believes the the current comments and positions that fmr Pres Trump espouses are politically in the middle.

Would that really be a surprise, based upon its prior comments?

Trump is courting the extreme right.

He always has.

Mostly because he thinks he's using them.

Unfortunately. When he dies and leave the nation to Vance, he'll have handed them everything.

" Thanks for your concern trolling, ----.

#21 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2024-10-27 07:06 PM | FLAG: "

Was that really necessary?

she kinda is. sorry.

Not necessary.

I flagged it Irresponsible Image Mfg.

" she kinda is. sorry.

#26 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE AT 2024-10-27 07:19 PM | FLAG: "

Her comment was fairly innocuous. Why bust out the c-word?

Because of her rude comments to danni.

Next year her actions will start influencing the 2028 vote.

Will she be a one or two term POTUS?

New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez have been relegated to low-profile roles

What has she done to earn a high profile role?

" What has she done to earn a high profile role?

#31 | POSTED BY JPW AT 2024-10-28 09:23 AM | FLAG: "

Her rack?

"Her rack"

#32 | Posted by JeffJ | Flag: Racism and misogyny all in one fell swoop

Please give us a reason why anyone should read - (much less respect) - whatever you say when you're unwilling to respond to this?

You're a disgusting piece of ---- Jeff

"You're a disgusting piece of ---- JeffJ"

#34 | Posted by truthhurts

And that's JeffJ's positive quality.

Imagine what else lurks beneath his current moniker.

One consolation to a ------- victory is that people like Jeff will be hurt along with the rest of us

I'm being honest, -------. I'd expect YOU to know the difference.

"I'm being honest..."

#37 | Posted by JeffJ

So says the lying ***hole who won't address this.

Twoothy,

I say the same about Boebert.

The one thing I don't do is wish bad things on others simply because they have differing political views.

I'm being honest, -------. I'd expect YOU to know the difference.

#37 | Posted by BellRinger

LOL

That is all

Hans

Your obsessive stalking is creepy.

Twoothy,

I say the same about Boebert.

The one thing I don't do is wish bad things on others simply because they have differing political views.

#39 | Posted by BellRinger a

LOL

So, you acknowledge ------- will hurt everyone.

Yet you will vote for him regardless.

BTW there is nothing wrong about wishing bad things on Nazis.

In this case, it is simply people experiencing the consequences of their actions.

Let's see how you blame marxists for -------'s tariff policy causing massive inflation.

-I'd expect YOU to know the difference.

twoothy is too unhinged to know anything.

You completely own him. You stole his manhood, his woman, his house, his job and his friends.....oh and his soul.

There is nothing left for you to take from him.

This is why his posts contain such contempt for you when your posts aren't addressed to him nor about him.

He has nothing but hatred.

If he ever had a shred of credibility here, he forfeited it when he tried to out your personal identity.

Twoothy,

At one point you fantasized about my wife being ---------ed by a leper colony while I would be forced to watch Clockwork Orange style.

That's not political. It's deranged.

Was that really necessary?
#25 | POSTED BY BULLBRINGER

You know what's funny.

You. Pretending to be offended by my comment while cheerleading for Trump who says worse on a regular basis.

Fkkk off with your bullshht.

Clownshack loves the c-word especially when he directs it at Gal Tuesday.

"Your obsessive stalking is creepy."

Try answering his (valid) question.

BullBringer is voting for Trump who spews hateful, misogynistic, xenophobic, vile rhetoric.

But BullBringer really offended I called that ---- Gracie, a ----.

It's hilarious that fkkking moron think he has any moral or ethical high ground to stand on.

BullBringer. You're a lying piece of shht troll and your options are worthless.

You're a deplorable Trumping MAGAt. A worthless human being.

A fat troll stuck in his trailer wishing for relevance.

-Try answering his (valid) question.

LOL....you expect anybody to click on that nonsense?

No chance........If Hans can't get someone to respond to his questions......let him worry about it.

-But BullBringer really offended I called that ---- Gracie, a ----.

I love that word.....but I only use when golfing.

" Try answering his (valid) question.

#47 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2024-10-28 12:51 PM | FLAG: "

I'm not going to click a phishing link.

And whatever it is he wants me to answer has nothing to do with any thread discussion.

#32 | Posted by JeffJ | Flag: Racism and misogyny all in one fell swoop
#33 | POSTED BY HANS

That's what makes him such a devoted Trumper.

Trump is a racist and a misogynist and everything BullBringer wishes he was.

Twoothy,

At one point you fantasized about my wife being ---------ed by a leper colony while I would be forced to watch Clockwork Orange style.

That's not political. It's deranged.

#44 | Posted by BellRinger

And you're a lying ------- piece of ----.

That is not what I said.

But that is who you are.

A liar.

whatever it is he wants me to answer has nothing to do with any thread discussion.
#51 | POSTED BY BULLBRINGER

No fair! You're the only one who gets to detail the topic of the thread with bullshht and whataboutism!

"Your obsessive stalking is creepy."

#41 | Posted by JeffJ at 2024-10-28 12:22 PM | Reply | Flag: Feelings hurt?

Please give us a reason why anyone should read - (much less respect) - whatever you say when you're unwilling to respond to this?

There's a simple solution to this.

Inquire within.

"I'm not going to click a phishing link."

#51 | Posted by JeffJ at 2024-10-28 12:55 PM | Reply | Flag: Please give us a reason why anyone should read - (much less respect) - whatever you say when you're unwilling to respond to this?

A link in a Drudge Retort post, which leads to another Drudge Retort post is phishing?

Okay, since you're too stupid to figure that out, then why aren't you willing to answer this straightforward question:

Are you brave enough to respond.

Or, are you just a typical MAGA coward?

"At one point you fantasized about my wife being ---------ed by a leper colony while I would be forced to watch Clockwork Orange style." -

#44 | Posted by JeffJ

That sounds like it would be one of oneironaut's fantasies.

Well, it would be.

If he didn't have his problem, that is.

If you think Trump is currently running to the middle, you've lost your marbles.
#20 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

I am not sure what Trump is running, but for Muslims to say "nah" to Harris is quite stunning given the alternative.

Trump is courting the extreme right.

Is he? Approx half the country will vote for him. Are you saying half the country is "extreme right"?

"Approx half the country will vote for him."

#59 | Posted by oneironaut

You're predicting that the Kumquat Pol Pot will be getting approximately 166,500,000 votes?

Really?

That sounds like a prediction from shrimptacodan.

Trump has never, and will never break the 47% ceiling he's imposed upon himself by ONLY throwing red meat to his base.
Middle of the road and indie voters and some republicans loathe the guy, not to mention the fallout from roe v wade.
The Klan rally at MSG was the nail in the coffin.

Approx half the country will vote for him.

Approx half the country has never voted for anyone.

Nonvoters are still the biggest segment of Americans.

At most Trump will get 33-37% of the country.

Are you saying half the country is "extreme right"?
#59 | POSTED BY 1LUMPER2

The extreme right tends to favor the Republican Party for its xenophobic policies and commitment to gun ownership.

Trump felt the energy he generated when he called immigrants from our southern border "rapists and criminals". He felt the excitement when he banned people of Muslim nations from receiving visas to come to America.

The sharp increase of MAGA politicians in 2018 echoing Trump and furthering his rhetoric is alarming.

Project 2025 will be catastrophic.

for Muslims to say "nah" to Harris is quite stunning given the alternative.
#58 | POSTED BY 1CLUELESSWONDER

The only reason Muslims are rejecting the Republican Party is because of our continued support for Israel in Gaza.

Which. (Ignoring that tangent.)

Is a brilliant display of how propaganda works.

It was shown how Musk's X was targeting Muslim people with propaganda stating Harris is pro Israel. While simultaneously targeting Jewish people with propaganda stating Harris is pro Hamas.

Which. Again. Goes back to. He who controls the narrative, controls the nation.

Harris has a lot of obstacles to overcome this election. If she wins, it will be a Christmas miracle.

" That is not what I said"

Yes, it is. Even Gal Tuesday was slightly appalled.

#64 | Posted by JeffJ at 2024-10-28 03:31 PM

Are you brave enough to respond?

Or, are you just a typical MAGA coward?

" That is not what I said"

Yes, it is. Even Gal Tuesday was slightly appalled.

#64 | Posted by BellRinger

Liar

Post it or be confirmed a liar, yet again

- If she wins, it will be a Christmas miracle.

There may even be some Trumpers who in their deepest secret heart of hearts will be relieved not to have to ruin their reputations, or go to prison and ruin their lives and their families' lives... because they will no longer have to kowtow to a character-free criminal traitor any.

How very freeing that should be....

NAW!

Once rwing populists who want Kings rather than Presidents... so they can have THEIR way about every little thing; from people's bedrooms to women's health, from Corporate Personhood

(which half of them would tell you they don't like, but follow a self-serving billionaire anyway in subservience to Corporate Money) to Dark Money in Politics

(which a few of them will also claim to hate, while Trump has long accepted Traditional Republican Party Establishment Policy.... WHO LOVE THAT GUY!)

But once Republicans have tasted the Cult-aide, they aren't likely to change their story, even if they have no rational reasons to believe it themselves anymore.

They still chose Trump, who is run by the GOP more than they run him.... .IF he loses, Est Republicans will drop him like the garbage he is.

And if he wins, well, Est Republicans and Corporations and Billionaires will have won too, and privately remark to one another that they hadn't realize that 'the Rwing Rabble'' was really THAT gullible!

" Post it or be confirmed a liar, yet again

#66 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2024-10-28 03:43 PM | REPLY | FLAG:"

I didn't archive it. You absolutely made a comment about my wife being chain screwed by a leper colony. You didn't imply rape - the implication was consensual.

69!!!

(Lee's not here)

Lighten up folks.

All this personal attack angst is a downer.

At least have fun with it... I mean, half of you people support a criminal traitor who leads your Party.

Now, that's something you could be serious about instead, eh?

At one point you fantasized about my wife being ---------ed by a leper colony while I would be forced to watch Clockwork Orange style.

That's pretty hot. Don't mind me over here with the tissues.

Before I start.

Has the genitalia for these lepers begun rotting or have fully decayed and fallen off? Are we talking both male and female raping lepers? Can the clockwork orange chair be swapped with a crucifix and a few ------------ with whips?

chain screwed by a leper colony.

Pretty sure thats the title of a death metal song.

Trumpwork Orange... Pure Kubrick!

www.telegraph.co.uk

#68 | Posted by Posted by JeffJ

Are you brave enough to respond.

Or, are you just a typical MAGA coward?

Clownshack,

You've got a twisted mind. I'd like to see a lot more of that from you. It's funny.

Jeff's a bitch and he knows it

#74 | Posted by JeffJ

Are you brave enough to respond.

Or, are you just a typical MAGA coward?

(JeffJ has me plonked. So, while he can't see my posts, I can see his. And everyone else can see this response... but he can't! Which means he won't respond, making him look like he really is JeffJ!)

"Jeff's a bitch..."

I think he prefers "----".

#74 | Posted by JeffJ

Are you, or are you not, the Drudge Retort poster known as JeffJ, who was thrown off of the Retort and had to come crawling back as "Bellringer"?
Are you brave enough to respond.
Or, are you just a typical MAGA coward?

(JeffJ has me plonked. So, while he can't see my posts, I can see his. And everyone else can see this response... but he can't! Which means he won't respond, making him look like he really is JeffJ!)

#76 | Posted by Hans at

The bitch sees my posts

#77 | Posted by eberly

I was torn between Funny and Newsworthy, so I chose both.

"Jeff's a bitch..."
I think he prefers "----".
#77 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Pretty interchangeable words.

Just depends which side of the pond you're on.

#77 | Posted by eberly

Apologies for our earlier, not-so-private tete-a-tete.

- Hans

"Get a room already." -

#82 | Posted by ClownShack

Is that available here?

The mischief and mayhem of the wild days of aol private chat rooms.

A/S/L?

#84 | Posted by ClownShack | Flag: Le Chateau

#84 | Posted by ClownShack | Flag: Le Chateau *

* Max capacity = 25... Please try again...

9.6, 14.4, 28.8 ... or 57k? ! ? !

Plus, the ubiquitous presence of this! ! !

A completely symmetrical conversation that transcends 25+ years

I don't have anybody on killfile.

Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Drudge Retort
USER INFO

HANS

Hans Meyer

Is that any relation to Lane Meyer?

Oscar's younger, better looking brother.

Or so he says!

He's the main Wiener man!

Hey Jeff, explain why the Twitter files was an ungodly election interference, but the owner of X (ne' twitter) onstage with -------, with a 500million dollar PAC, giving million dollar checks to people isn't election interference.

Same here, Hans.

#94. One was censorship the other is not.

" One was censorship "

When did the government override the editorial department?

Be specific, because so far ... you've proven nothing.

To reference Rudy, you've got a lot of theories, just no evidence.

#94. One was censorship the other is not.

#96 | Posted by BellRinger

ROFLOL

You mean the head of a PAC illegally coordinating with a presidential nominee isn't suppressing negative stories of said nominee?

TFF

#96 | Posted by JeffJ

Are you brave enough to respond.

Or, are you just a typical MAGA coward?

#96 | Posted by JeffJ

(JeffJ has me plonked. So, while he can't see my posts, I can see his. And everyone else can see this response... but he can't! Which means he won't respond, making him look like he really is JeffJ! - wash, rinse, repeat...)

#99 | Posted by Hans a

hmmm

" You mean the head of a PAC illegally coordinating with a presidential nominee isn't suppressing negative stories of said nominee?"

Your proof that it's illegal is?

Your proof that it's illegal is?
www.fec.gov

#101 | Posted by JeffJ

Are you brave enough to respond?

Or, are you just a typical MAGA coward?

You mean the head of a PAC illegally coordinating with a presidential nominee isn't suppressing negative stories of said nominee?"

Your proof that it's illegal is?

#101 | Posted by BellRinger a

en.wikipedia.org

Super PACs, officially known as "independent expenditure-only political action committees," are unlike traditional PACs in that they may raise unlimited amounts from individuals, corporations, unions, and other groups to spend on, for example, ads overtly advocating for or against political candidates. However, they are not allowed to either coordinate with or contribute directly to candidate campaigns or political parties.[32

www.wsj.com

Appearing at multiple ------- rallies is, by definition, coordinating with the ------- campaign.

Thus illegal.

Now, you will deny this.