Sunday, October 27, 2024

We're Looking at the Wrong Gender Gap in Voting

Jamelle Bouie: Donald Trump's inroads - however large or modest they might be - with young men are less striking than Kamala Harris's enormous lead with young women. The gender gap among young voters is as large as it has ever been. According to the Harvard poll, 70 percent of likely voters among young women of color favor Harris, as against 15 percent for Trump.

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The gender gap among young women has not inspired the same level of analysis and deep focus as has the gender gap with young men. Even a close reader of election coverage may forget for a moment that this is the first presidential election since the Supreme Court's decision on Dobbs more than two years ago. If there were ever an election in which to focus on the political behavior of young women, it's this one.
And more women vote than men.

Roevember is almost here.

#1 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-10-26 04:32 PM

Women stand to lose far more than men if that Fascist gets back in power and no one should forget what he said anout President Xi's "President for life" position. The Fascist adores dictators all over the world, no one should forget that! He does think he is going to be our dictator for life and one of his idiot sons after he's gone.

#2 | Posted by danni at 2024-10-27 12:33 PM

Black women have always been the Democrat's most loyal voting block after only the dead. However, Dems have lost Black men this time around, hence the Obama 'shame tour'. I don't think that will be effective. However, convincing black men that they have an obligation to support a half Indian/half Irish woman from a slave owning family raised in Montreal would be one hell of a sales job.

#3 | Posted by deadman at 2024-10-28 12:05 AM

@#3 ... after only the dead. ...

Wait, what?

Can you explain that part of the comment?

thx.

#4 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-28 12:16 AM

"#4 | Posted by LampLighter"

I think it is self explanatory.

#5 | Posted by deadman at 2024-10-28 12:21 AM

Wow, the playlist here this evening is presenting some interesting tunes...

Fools - Life Sucks Then You Die (1985)
www.youtube.com

Lyrics excerpt ...

...
My house burned down in a flash of thunder
My wife ran off with a one-legged plumber
My crops fell dead when the riverbed went dry
My dog got squashed by a pickup truck
My son ran away and got hooked on drugs
My daughter's knocked up by the class of '85

People say that life is good
It don't seem good to me
I'm lost without a paddle
And I'm headed up ---- creek
People say that life is fun
But I don't know why
As far as I can tell
Life sucks then you die
...


#6 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-28 12:21 AM

@#5 ... I think it is self explanatory. ...

OK then, I have to ask, why do you seem to think that Democrats rely upon dead people voting?


#7 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-28 12:26 AM

"@#5 ... I think it is self explanatory. ...
OK then, I have to ask, why do you seem to think that Democrats rely upon dead people voting?
#7 | Posted by LampLighter"

Oh look, you seem to have figured it out all on your own. You know what they say, feed a man a fish...

#8 | Posted by deadman at 2024-10-28 12:29 AM

@#8 ... Oh look, you seem to have figured it out all on your own ...

Yeah, but no.

I have not figured anything out based upon the comments you have posted.

I simply asked for substantiation of the comment you posted.

So, allow me to ask again the question you seem not want to answer...

I have to ask (again, as I did in #7), why do you seem to think that Democrats rely upon dead people voting?


Yer up.



#9 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-28 12:39 AM

"why do you seem to think that Democrats rely upon dead people voting?
Yer up.
#9 | Posted by LampLighter"

You were able to figure out the meaning of the comment all on your own. I bet if you tried, you could come up with reasons all on your own too. I must treat you like a 5 year old - please try 3 times yourself before you ask me for help.

#10 | Posted by deadman at 2024-10-28 12:50 AM

I think VP Harris will win decisively.

Trump's ceiling is about 47%, tops.

He hasn't done anything to grow his support and continues to say and do things that alienate voters.

#11 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2024-10-28 01:09 AM

"#11 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY"

Kamala is down by 31.8% in the betting markets. Basically, Dems are counting on the polls being 100% accurate this cycle or they will lose both the EC and popular vote.

#12 | Posted by deadman at 2024-10-28 01:11 AM

@#10 ... I must treat you like a 5 year old - please try 3 times yourself before you ask me for help. ...

So... when questioned about what you are saying, the response is some manner of an ad hominem attack.

So, ya got anything else to substantiate what you post?


#13 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-28 01:32 AM

@#11 ... Trump's ceiling is about 47%, tops. ...

Yeah, but popular vote doesn't matter. (when has fmr Pres Trump ever won the popular vote?)

What is your view of the Electoral College vote?


#14 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-28 01:34 AM

Just above your posts:

#11 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY

"I think VP Harris will win decisively"

The presidency (in case that wasn't clear enough ...)

#15 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2024-10-28 01:40 AM

" Dems are counting on the polls being 100% accurate this cycle "

Then they're wrong.

Current polling doesn't reflect The Dobbs Effect.

Every vote since Dobbs has eviscerated the polling. The KS women's rights vote polled 47-46; results were 61-37.

Same in OH and AL: a pair of "lefty" wins which defied the polls.

And most recently, OH06, a Trump +29 district, which Rs won, but only by 8-9 points.

NONE of the polls predicted Dem strength.

And nowadays, outlets make more money if they pretend the race is closer than it actually is.

#16 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-10-28 01:47 AM

"Current polling doesn't reflect The Dobbs Effect."

Well, considering 2022 included the Dobbs decision and polls were accurate, this seems like and incorrect statement to make.

"Every vote since Dobbs has eviscerated the polling."

Then how do you explain 2022 polling accuracy?

"And most recently, OH06, a Trump +29 district, which Rs won, but only by 8-9 points."

I believe it is more likely to see a Trump +29 district WHEN TRUMP IS ON THE BALLOT. You see, there seems to be a big difference between Trump supporters and GOP supporters. Unlike the lockstep Dems, Trump voters are just as likely to be disgusted by a RINO as a Dem.

"And nowadays, outlets make more money if they pretend the race is closer than it actually is.
#16 | Posted by Danforth"

I agree with you on that, but the outcome predicted is very different.

#17 | Posted by deadman at 2024-10-28 01:59 AM

@#17 ... Well, considering 2022 included the Dobbs decision and polls were accurate, ...

That's a bold statement.

Got evidence?


#18 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-28 02:03 AM

"That's a bold statement
Got evidence?
#18 | Posted by LampLighter"

The space-time continuum?

#19 | Posted by deadman at 2024-10-28 02:05 AM

Chet Atkins & Mark Knopfler - There'll Be Some Changes Made (1990)
www.youtube.com

Two great guitar players just seeming to be having fun providing music.

Neck and Neck, a fav album of mine.



#20 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-28 02:16 AM

@#19

So, you got nothing to substantiate your comment.

Quelle surprise.


#21 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-28 02:18 AM

"So, you got nothing to substantiate your comment.
#21 | Posted by LampLighter"

Well, other than the space-time continuum. Of course, you can go ahead and prove that someone has invented a time machine which allows events to take place out of their historical timeline, but I put that challenge to you. I am not saying that such a time machine is not possible (although most theories state time only moves in one direction), but I just don't know of the existence of any such machine.

#22 | Posted by deadman at 2024-10-28 02:25 AM

Danforth,

I think this election will be very close but I think Harris will win.

Having said that, when I'm looking at the behavior of the 2 campaigns what I see is the Harris campaign looking desperate and the Trump campaign looking confident and looking like they are having fun.

To me that suggests internal polling for both campaigns shows Trump with the edge. But again, I really do think the polling is not reflective of reality - that Harris will win.

#23 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-10-28 02:29 AM

"Having said that, when I'm looking at the behavior of the 2 campaigns what I see is the Harris campaign looking desperate and the Trump campaign looking confident and looking like they are having fun.
#23 | Posted by BellRinger"

I imagine based on the internal polls (which directly impact the betting markets), Trump is expected to win by a few % along with all the swing states. The main component of election anxiety for the Trump supporters is how much will the Democrats cheat in this election. Straight up, Trump blow out. If it takes 14 days to count and we have burst pipes at the counting stations, the confidence in Trump winning plummets.

#24 | Posted by deadman at 2024-10-28 03:13 AM

These days the difference between votes and ballots has become concerning.

Having said that, if the GOP can't learn and adapt and match what the DNC does they have no business being a major party.

As for me, I will vote in person on Election Day because it is the most secure way of voting.

#25 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-10-28 03:51 AM

"As for me, I will vote in person on Election Day because it is the most secure way of voting.
#25 | Posted by BellRinger"

As you have stated that you are not voting for Trump, I would encourage you to donate your ballot to the locally Democrat run school board to be repurposed into a sanitary napkin for the boys' bathroom - at least then it would serve a purpose other than destroying the nation.

#26 | Posted by deadman at 2024-10-28 03:55 AM

I haven't said I am not voting Trump.

Harris had a tow hall last week that i haven't watched and Trump went on Rogan which I haven't watched. Need to go through it.

#27 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-10-28 04:11 AM

"Harris had a tow hall last week that i haven't watched and Trump went on Rogan which I haven't watched. Need to go through it.
#27 | Posted by BellRinger"

Honest question for you, how would either of those events change how you would vote? You feel there is something you don't yet know about Trump? You think Kamala will announce a new policy that makes your forget the last 4 years? Seriously.

#28 | Posted by deadman at 2024-10-28 04:25 AM

@#10 ... I must treat you like a 5 year old - please try 3 times yourself before you ask me for help. ...

So... when questioned about what you are saying, the response is some manner of an ad hominem attack.

What do you expect from a terminal magidiot?

#29 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-10-28 07:39 AM

It's the economy... that's it

I bet the DNC now wishes they'd have gone the primary route with this rather than anointing the hen. Besides being shallow, she's not even likable. She's been booed 2-3 times at her own rallies and she doesn't know what to do with it. You can tell when she gets uncomfortable and doesn't know what to say, she starts that cackling laugh and it's cringe AF.

As someone who's voted Democrat before, I put her in the same category as Hillary Clinton - A hard no. But here we are, and the DNC is trying to muscle their schitty candidate on the country once again.

#30 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-10-28 08:23 AM

Kamala Harris Campaign Chair Spots Turnout Detail That Explains Why 'We're Very Confident'

Jen O'Malley Dillon, the chair of Kamala Harris' 2024 presidential campaign, explained on Sunday why she believes the Democratic nominee will emerge triumphant over GOP rival, former President Donald Trump.

"We feel very good about where we are, we are very confident we are going to win this thing," O'Malley Dillon told MSNBC's Jen Psaki.

It's going to be a "close race," she acknowledged. But Harris, she continued, still has "multiple pathways" to the 270 electoral votes needed to win the White House and is "on track" for victory.

"We are seeing high turnout everywhere. We are definitely seeing that our voters are turning out," she said, adding there are more Democratic low-propensity voters currently showing up than Republican ones.

"Just in the last two days in Clark County in Nevada, for instance, where Las Vegas is, we have seen higher youth turnout in the last two days than we have seen at any other point this cycle," she noted. In Michigan, meanwhile, O'Malley Dillon said "we had 145,000 voters vote early just yesterday alone."

"So we really like what we are seeing. We are seeing strong turnout. Our margins are strong, and the folks that we're focused on, those lower propensity voters that don't always vote, they are tuning in and showing up at a high-level in support of the vice president," she added.

Wow, actual data informing a prediction instead of blind misogyny, racism and bigotry. Go figure.

#31 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-10-28 08:56 AM

misogyny, racism and bigotry. Go figure.

#31 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-10-28 08:56 AM | Reply | Flag

And there it is... The old go-to for democrats. It's how they say they're losing, without actually saying the words "we're losing".

#32 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-10-28 09:01 AM

And there it is...

It sure is. A hit dog always yelps the loudest.

Thanks for self identifying.

#33 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-10-28 09:05 AM

#33 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-10-28 09:05 AM | Reply | Flag

LMAO From the guy that posted "accusations are confessions" on a recent thread.

#34 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-10-28 09:11 AM

She isn't booed at her own rallies. That's rather uninformed to say. We have protests that do happen from time to time. We're no different than Trump in that regard.
Where there have been protests from some protesters, she responds joyfully with "Oh! You want the smaller rally down the street!" and the entire audience and her laugh. It's quite fun, and a great response on her part.

So different than Trump's hate-filled "beat the crap out of them!" response.

And you think you bring that up here helps you? Seriously?

Harris, full in context response to protesters at a rally

LMAO!

Silly human.

#35 | Posted by YAV at 2024-10-28 09:20 AM

Trump campaign looking confident and looking like they are having fun.

They are over confident because they have to be to appeal to their toxic magidiots.

#36 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-10-28 10:31 AM

Having fun being shhtheaps? "floating island of garbage" was hilarious. If you're a racist POS.
Good luck remaking that turd.

#37 | Posted by YAV at 2024-10-28 10:34 AM

"It sure is. A hit dog always yelps the loudest.

"Thanks for self identifying."

#33 | Posted by TonyRoma | Flag: Important PSA Announcement - Must Read

#38 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-28 10:35 AM

Yav,

She clearly got booed at her bait and switch Beyonc rally.

#39 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-10-28 11:28 AM

" I will vote in person on Election Day because it is the most secure way of voting."

White privilege in a nutshell.

In-person voting is the easiest to control. If you've noticed, the only 4-7 hour waits are in minority districts. We've also seen construction and speed traps on main routes and thoroughfares.

Mail-in voting results in the largest participation, which Republicans absolutely don't want.

Meanwhile, some state just discovered (at least) 18 legal voters purged ...

..which, no doubt, is MORE voters than the number convicted in their state during the last quarter-century.
www.heritage.org

#40 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-10-28 11:29 AM

"She clearly got booed at her bait and switch Beyonc rally."

#39 | Posted by JeffJ | Flag: Please give us a reason why anyone should read - (much less respect) - whatever you say when you're unwilling to respond to this?

#41 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-28 11:30 AM

She didn't get booed.
The booing was because some people came expecting Beyonce to perform.
She spoke instead.
When Beyonce left without singing, some people booed.
That's a hell of a lot different than saying "Besides being shallow, she's not even likable. She's been booed 2-3 times at her own rallies and she doesn't know what to do with it."
That's nonsensical. It's stupid. And you pretending the Beyonce situation even applies to the above is both nonsensical and stupid.

#42 | Posted by YAV at 2024-10-28 11:39 AM

"...is both nonsensical and stupid." -

#42 | Posted by YAV | Flag: Should become a Drudge Retort stamp

#43 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-28 11:56 AM

FWIW the 5th Circuit is planning on attacking mail in voting. too late for them to take action for this election

#44 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-10-28 11:57 AM

" The booing was because some people came expecting Beyonce to perform."

And why did they have that expectation?

Be honest, Harris looked awkward AF trying to smile and cackle her way through the booing.

#45 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-10-28 12:14 PM

" 40 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2024-10-28 11:29 AM | FLAG: | "

Relax. I didn't say I oppose mail in voting. I simply said I will be voting in person because it is the most secure form of voting.

#46 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-10-28 12:16 PM

"Be honest..."

#45 | Posted by JeffJ

So says the person who won't respond to this.

#47 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-28 12:17 PM

And why did they have that expectation?

Stop deflecting from the ridiculous statement that was blasted to shht. Your deflection and flailing at another false equivalence was just as stupid.

#48 | Posted by YAV at 2024-10-28 12:29 PM

Yav,

I'm not deflecting anything. A perception was created that Beyonce would perform. 30,000 attended as a result. When she walked off stage people felt betrayed, rightfully so, and booed at at Harris for being mislead.

I don't know why you are trying to sugar coat it.

#49 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-10-28 12:45 PM

All of what you said in #49 is irrelevant.
Figure that out.

#50 | Posted by YAV at 2024-10-28 12:53 PM

-#50. Yav

You wrongly assume I was defending another post. I wasn't.

You figure it out.

#51 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-10-28 12:57 PM

"A perception was created..."

#49 | Posted by JeffJ at 2024-10-28 12:45 PM | Reply | Flag: Please give us a reason why anyone should read - (much less respect) - whatever you say when you're unwilling to respond to this?

A perception was created?

Is that like a concept of a plan?

#52 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-28 01:00 PM

You wrongly assume I was defending another post. I wasn't.

You responded to a post about a specific post.
You did not start a new post or new thought.
You did it deliberately in response to a charge made in the original response.
You did it to obfuscate.
You did it to deflect.
You did it to defend.

Stop lying - either to yourself, first, or to all of us.

#53 | Posted by YAV at 2024-10-28 01:38 PM

#53. Dude. Chill out. I clarified.

#54 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-10-28 03:29 PM

#54 | Posted by JeffJ at 2024-10-28 03:29 PM

Are you, or are you not, the Drudge Retort poster known as JeffJ, who was thrown off of the Retort and had to come crawling back as "Bellringer"?
Are you brave enough to respond?

Or, are you just a typical MAGA coward?

#55 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-28 03:37 PM

"I will be voting in person because it is the most secure form of voting."

And the easiest to game.

That's the REAL reason: 4 hr lines and clogged thoroughfares are impossible to create with mail-in ballots.

#56 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-10-28 03:45 PM

"That's the REAL reason: 4 hr lines and clogged thoroughfares are impossible to create with mail-in ballots."

#56 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-10-28 03:45 PM | Reply | Flag: 100% spot on comment

#57 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-28 03:49 PM

- I clarified.

You Clarabelle-ed, more like:

www.youtube.com

#58 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-28 04:07 PM

Wow, the Swifties are out in force today.

#59 | Posted by eberly at 2024-10-28 04:12 PM

#59. They sure are.

#60 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-10-28 04:46 PM

#59, 60

Haughty B(r)itches!

#61 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-28 05:10 PM

#13 | Posted by LampLighter

You cannot squeeze (or coax) blood from a turnip.

#62 | Posted by Angrydad at 2024-10-28 05:23 PM

#60 | Posted by JeffJ

Are you, or are you not, the Drudge Retort poster known as JeffJ, who was thrown off of the Retort and had to come crawling back as "Bellringer"?
Are you brave enough to respond.

Or, are you just a typical MAGA coward?

(JeffJ has me plonked. So, while he can't see my posts, I can see his. And everyone else can see this response... but he can't! Which means he won't respond, making him look like he really is JeffJ!)

#63 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-28 05:39 PM

Deadman, so why do Republicans rely on cheating? Like burning mail in ballots in blue states? If you are confident of winning, if you had a shred of honor or decency, you and your party would not need to stoop to such levels.

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