You guys are delusional. Mexico is now sending 10,000 troops to the border to strengthen security.

The tariff has been paused for a month while SoS Rubio negotiates with the Mexican president regarding the future of this tariff.

My guess is the tariff will be dropped altogether if the Mexican president fulfills her end of the bargain, but that is only a guess.

Let me get this straight, Zed.

One of Trump's main campaign priorities was securing the border.

So, he sets up a tariff against Mexico and the Mexican president capitulates and promises to immediately send 10,000 troops to patrol the border. Which is a tangible step toward improving border security which is a big priority for this administration and that's a failure?

Make it make sense.

" Donald got what Biden had and gave more to Mexico than Biden did."

How do you figure? Break it down, please.

I've been reading the damned news.

I know what happened. I summarized what happened as it's been widely reported.

To call it a success or failure is opinion, not news. To me, it looks like success as he got what he wanted by using a big stick and in the process it looks like we likely will not have a quid pro quo tariff war with Mexico. Win/win.

How do you view that as a failure? Because Donald?

So, the stated goal is increased border security. Mexico agrees to send 10,000 troops to the border to tighten it down on their end. Win.

Mexico wants to crack down on guns entering the country from their northern border and we agree to tighten it up. Win.

Both side got something they wanted. Win/ win.

I'd call that a successful negotiation by all parties. Zed sees it as an abject failure because Trump.

Also, Zed is incapable of considering the possibility that Trump doesn't actually want a tariff war with Mexico or Canada.

#35. I already did, on 2 different threads. Go to those threads and you will find your answer.

" like BullBringer who post nothing but conspiracy theories and bullshht.

He's a waste of time.

#34 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2025-02-03 06:10 PM | FLAG: "

Says the guy who claims the SS staged a killing and a bullet to Trump's ear all at Trump's behest for a photo opp.

You probably think 9/11 was an inside job and that W had levees blown up during Katrina to harm a bigger number of minorities.

" Border crossings were down under Biden before Trump took office" - Yav

When the starting point is record high, fully sanctioned and encouraged illegal crossings and then 6 months before an election steps are taken to temporarily curb it because it polls horribly ... ..Yav, you strike me as an intelligent person. This incredible weak sauce. Illegal crossings under Biden shattered all time records throughout the entirety of his administration.

It's like an arsonist fireman - set the fire, let it burn causing tremendous damage and then swoop in last second, put it out and claim hero status.

Come on, dude. Illegal immigration is one of the primary reasons your party lost this election. Please, understand that and move forward on this.

"The story of "illegal immigration" and massive lies about it and the migrants being cast as criminals, and the fear porn worked. Congrats on using people to ---- on so you can lie your way into power.

#51 | POSTED BY YAV AT 2025-02-03 09:43 PM | FLAG: |"

Oh, Come on! Most of the media tried to underplay and simp for the Biden administration on this. It was all well and good when border towns with minimal resources were forced to just deal with it. But then, when a couple of Southern state governors started transporting just a fraction of these illegal aliens up to "sanctuary cities" and those mayors (and governors of those states) cried foul because despite having WAY more resources than border towns to handle such an influx they were quickly overwhelmed and kicked up a bunch of dust over it. The numbers were staggering and it was orchestrated. Please, quit spinning. Quit trying to be a historical revisionist. And for God's sake, quit trying to condescend to people who watched this all unfold and try and gaslight that they didn't witness what they actually saw.

What in the hell are you even talking about? You did no such thing.
You are being a hack and I have seen you capable of being better.
Good night and sleep well.

"Says the man that never saw any of it.

#60 | POSTED BY YAV AT 2025-02-03 11:01 PM | REPLY | FLAG:"

You are right. I don't live on the Rio Grande. But, amazingly we have this little thing called news media, internet, etc. And those people who are actually living it are able to show what is happening in real time.

Further, we have a tracking system for raw numbers.

And even further, we can put 2 + 2 together. We are capable of watching all of the changes Biden made to border enforcement and see the results.

The border is a significant reason why your party lost the election. Even with all of the assistance from the MSM to parrot administration lies the rhetorical incentive, the resultant numbers and what we've been able to observe....have fun continuing to try and desperately polish that turd.

Alexandrite,

Yav is trying to gaslight. Hopefully that helps.

Funny.

Alexandrite,

It's good to see you cracking some funnies.

Clownshart,

You are a clumsy troll. Why do you keep bringing up what I've already addressed? It's pathetic.

Clownshack,

All of a sudden it just hit me - you are Booster from "Jingle all the Way".

Zed,

You are insane. I don't say that to be mean You are so singularly obsessed with one man ... .what will you do when he leaves office? He consumes all of your thoughts. You NEED a boogeyman to stimulate your mind. When he leaves I'm concerned that your mind will completely shot down and you will go comatose. To avoid that you have only two paths. The first and best path is to see a therapist and work toward healing yourself. The second is to start hating JD Vance with everything you've got. While I think it's a tough climb because he comes across well. But as a lefty you can pull it off. Heck, other lefties on this site called him a repulsive hypocrite for articulating a love hierarchy - that he loves his wife and kids more than he loves Nancy Pelosi makes him an absolutely horrible person.

So, please seek therapy. But if you have too much pride for that start building Vance up in your mind as a human monster. Otherwise, when Trump is gone you will go comatose.

Donnerboy,

The numbers don't lie. When mayors of sanctuary cities were screaming about it our sycophantic press could no longer ignore it.

Do you people need me to post the numbers?

" what will you do when he (Donald) leaves office?

Posted by BellRinger

The same thing as if he suddenly drops dead, throw a party

#89 | POSTED BY ZED AT 2025-02-04 12:05 PM | FLAG: "

That's a great response. After the euphoria, what do you do? Garden ? Villainize Vance? Get therapy? Go comatose?

" Has anyone commented on what's truly amazing about this thread? That someone thinks Trump is a leader? LOL THAT is fracking amazing.

#99 | POSTED BY JPW AT 2025-02-04 01:21 PM | FLAG: "

Okay. Was Biden a leader?

" Trump's making Biden look like a super genius.

#104 | POSTED BY YAV AT 2025-02-04 02:32 PM | FLAG: "

Uh huh. He performed so well at one debate with Trump your party forcibly removed him and inserted ridiculous Kamala.

Biden was SO awesome!

Laura Mohr,

We all saw how it unfolded. Don't try to revise history. You suck at it.

Biden got exposed in a way that could no longer be hidden. He got kicked to the curb by other power brokers and they had no choice because of DEI to insert Joke Kamala.

And the rest is history.

Laura Mohr,

Biden was forced out against his will.

Harris was inserted.

I have no doubt that internal deliberations were intense. Of course they were. Ultimately Harris was inserted as the joy/Brat candidate. There was no mini primary. Nothing. She was inserted by power brokers, so spare me your nonsense.

The DNC was calling the shots. Biden didn't have control. He was forced out against his will. Don't be a maroon

Hell, I think he was so bitter that he voted for Trump out of spite.

By the time Biden was forced out against his will the DNC didn't have enough time to conduct a primary. They boxed themselves in and Harris was the only option.

It was glorious watching the deceit and corruption go down in flames.