DOJ is looking at ways to ban transgender gun ownership

Thursday, September 04, 2025

President Donald Trump has issued a series of executive orders on the topic, including one barring transgender people from serving in the military and another ordering federal prisons to move transgender inmates to facilities corresponding to their gender assigned at birth. In addition, the idea of restricting gun rights has long been a red line for conservatives, with many Republican lawmakers and gun rights groups opposing red flag laws and or other policies aimed at keeping guns away from people suffering from mental health issues.

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Let's see the Republicans defend this BS.

#1 | Posted by qcp at 2025-09-04 04:50 PM

NRA LOL

#2 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-04 05:34 PM

Let's see the Republicans defend this BS.
#1 | POSTED BY QCP

Lets see Lumpers argue against this BS.

To be clear, IMO gun ownership should be banned for any one underage of 25. With exceptions for military service, and an officer endorsement.

#3 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-09-04 05:34 PM

They're already banned if you're considered "mentally defective" but Oneirnut likely didn't know that.

#4 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-04 05:37 PM

They're already banned if you're considered "mentally defective" but Oneirnut likely didn't know that.

I knew that. But as usual you miss the point .... the DoJ is going to declare transgenders are "mentally defective".

#5 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-09-04 05:42 PM

That should stop about 3 shootings out of thousands a year. LOL

#6 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-04 05:49 PM

gun ownership should be banned for any one underage of 25.

Good luck with that.

#7 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-04 05:50 PM

"Stupid transgender people!"

ichef.bbci.co.uk

#8 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-09-04 06:01 PM

When will Donald Trump Ban African American Gun ownership by EO?

Askin' for a Friend.

#9 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-09-04 06:03 PM

gun ownership should be banned for any one underage of 25.
#3 | POSTED BY ONECUCK

Why?

#10 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-04 06:10 PM

LOL I've been saying it since before the election.

Trump will be the most meaningfully anti-2A POTUS of our lifetime.

And the dumbs(*&s who make guns a pillar of their identity will cheer because it's people they don't think should have freedom to begin with.

#11 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-04 06:15 PM

Banning one group of people from gun ownership opens the door to banning other groups of people from gun ownership.

Welcome to the slippery slope.

#12 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-04 06:17 PM

I'm guessing this is designed to fail.

In order to bring about the Final Transgender Solution.

The only way we can protect society from a Transgender person who has every right to get a gun is to institutionalize all the Transgenders.

#13 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-04 06:18 PM

gun ownership should be banned for any one underage of 25.
Good luck with that.
#7 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE

I did state it was my opinion. Do you not understand what IMO means?
Its wild you don't have a for or against argument, but not surprising, you seem upset.

#14 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-09-04 06:42 PM

You try too hard. Invest in better chum, then I might consider beating you up.

#15 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-04 07:59 PM

the DoJ is going to declare transgenders are "mentally defective".
#5 | Posted by oneironaut

The DOJ isn't qualified to make that determination.

But that doesn't matter to the people who want to send transgenders to camps.

#16 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-04 08:01 PM

Jeff continues to be a ridiculous hysterical little ----.

#17 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-09-04 09:07 PM

Why would anyone be against this? It's to protect the children.

Also Zed, don't be shocked if the government comes for your guns next.

#18 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-09-04 09:53 PM

don't be shocked if the government comes for your guns next.

The moment Trump determines he's safer without Americans having guns, the government will come for them.

You Trumpers will be overly eager to comply.

Guaranteed.

#19 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-04 10:01 PM

Clown, he's just going to go after the crazies owning guns. This is literally a win win for everyone. Now if he'd put the crazies in institutions so they can get the help they need. Do you not care about the children?

#20 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-09-04 10:53 PM

... crazies owning guns.

That's already prohibited. www.ncsl.org Enforce that instead of signing another invalid EO.

#21 | Posted by et_al at 2025-09-04 11:08 PM

If he put the rwing crazies in institutions, it would prevent 96 percent of these kinds of shootings.

#22 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-04 11:22 PM

Uhhh Corky ... Source for your claim.

#23 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-09-04 11:26 PM

Men are responsible for most gun-related crimes. Ban men from possessing guns.

#24 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2025-09-04 11:32 PM

98 percent are men, the vast majority of which are white nationalists.

#25 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-04 11:40 PM

Again source to verify your claim.

#26 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-09-04 11:56 PM

All this Lewzer Love is making you stupid.

www.google.com

#27 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-05 12:03 AM

This doesn't verify your claim, you said "If he put the rwing crazies in institutions, it would prevent 96 percent of these kinds of shootings." You've implied 96% of all mass shootings are perpetrated by right wingers. Again, verify your claim with a source.

#28 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-09-05 12:16 AM

Mass Shootings by Race (1982 - August 2025)
RACE/ETHNICITY NUMBER OF INCIDENTS PERCENTAGE OF TOTAL
White 84 54%
Black 26 17%
Latino 12 8%
Asian 10 6%
Native American 3 2%
Other 5 3%
Unknown 15 10%

Womp Womp.

#29 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-09-05 12:20 AM

As of 2023, the U.S. population is approximately 58% non-Hispanic White, 20% Hispanic, 13% Black, 6% Asian or Pacific Islander, and 3% identifying as other races. What's interesting is per capita Blacks are outshining everyone ...

#30 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-09-05 12:22 AM

"Right-wing extremists: Data from the ADL consistently shows that the vast majority of politically motivated killings in the United States are committed by right-wing extremists.

For instance, the ADL found that from 2014 to 2023, 76% of extremist-related murders were carried out by right-wing extremists.

Other extremist motivations: Over the same period, domestic Islamist extremists accounted for 19% of such murders, while left-wing extremists and other groups were responsible for much smaller percentages."

www.google.com

You must be SO proud, Bluftwaffer!

#31 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-05 12:23 AM

Also, I don't think you want me to run the numbers on Trans mass shooters vs their percentage of the general population ... It won't look good.

#32 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-09-05 12:23 AM

Yeah I'm not taking a bogus source from the ADL who has been sued into oblivion for lying as a credible source.

#33 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-09-05 12:24 AM

Also we are talking about mass shootings which is not even remotely the same thing you are trying to back up with a ---- source.

#34 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-09-05 12:25 AM

Also, I don't think you want me to run the numbers on Trans mass shooters

What percentage of trans people are mass shooters?

#35 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-09-05 12:32 AM

- a ---- source.

Why yes, yes you are.

AI Overview
Domestic terror attacks and fatalities in the US are most frequently associated with white supremacists and other right-wing extremists, though offenders' profiles and motivations vary. White nationalist ideology often drives the most lethal attacks.

As I said, if those people weren't on the streets being the Trumpers that they are, we wouldn't have much in the way of domestic terror shootings at all.

#36 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-05 12:33 AM

Of the mass shooting numbers I listed earlier Redial, at least 4 of them would be Trans shooters. I am not sure if this latest one is factored in. With that said going off the numbers ... If 4 of those are assigned to them that would represent 6.2% of mass shootings would be attributed to Trans Individuals. They presently make up 0.95%. That's a huge difference when looking at numbers by race in this country vs race of mass shooter.

#37 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-09-05 12:43 AM

Minneapolis is 5, so the number goes even higher if you count it.

#38 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-09-05 12:43 AM

Bluewaffles thinks black people should have their guns taken away.

WHy else would he post their gun violence stats in this thread? Is he man enough to admit that?

#39 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-05 12:47 AM

I'm 100% good with non-crazy law abiding citizens owning guns Alexandrite. I don't care if they're Asian, White, Black, Hispanic, or Middle Eastern. Where I have the problem is people who are mentally ill people owning them. Case in point ... Zed and Legally (neither of these people could legitimately pass a psychological exam with the things they've said here). Back to the math, .95% of the population is committing a number greater than 6.2% of the mass shootings. That's a very big problem and I'm glad our President has the willingness to address it.

#40 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-09-05 12:51 AM

Where's the stats that trans people with guns are any more dangerous than, I dunno, Black people with guns.

#41 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-05 12:52 AM

The DOJ is not qualified to address who is crazy for starters.

Also, the vast majority of mass shooters are law abiding citizens until they do a mass shooting.

WHAT IS YOUR SOLUTION.

#42 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-05 12:53 AM

I want trans people to have guns the same as anyone, so they can protect themselves from maniacs like blueweaffles.

#43 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-05 12:54 AM

If 4 of those are assigned to them that would represent 6.2% of mass shootings would be attributed to Trans Individuals.

Ok. Google says there are about 2.8 million people in the US identify as trans. If 5 of them are mass shooters, that means about notverymany % of trans people are mass shooters.

1 in 560,000 in fact.

#44 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-09-05 12:55 AM

If you're wondering why I'm being an ------- to you, blue...

It's the glee in which you post about sending people you don't agree with to camps. You're a disingenuous little fascist. Earlier today you were cowardly hiding behind the "what about the children?" argument.

#45 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-05 12:57 AM

Very easy Alex, take the guns away from the crazies. I've said this before, Zed has made comments on here alluding to the fact he owns firearms bc he's at the very least needlessly paranoid. Someone such as him should not have access to firearms. Are you okay with the authorities taking his guns away since he by definition poses a threat (based off of previous comments here) and who would you recommend come to take said guns away from him? Local Police? ATF? FBI?

#46 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-09-05 12:58 AM

take the guns away from the crazies.

Define crazies. Does it include all trans people....

#47 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-05 01:00 AM

Redial I am saying out of the total number of mass shootings, they represent 6.2% of them. That is all, you can use your same math on total population of any race and get a much smaller percentage of the mass shooter vs race as a population.

#48 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-09-05 01:00 AM

You haven't answered my question Alex.

#49 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-09-05 01:00 AM

What question?

#50 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-05 01:01 AM

Should Zed's firearms be taken away due to the ------- crazy things he has said on this site?

#51 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-09-05 01:02 AM

No. He hasn't threatened anyone. You're more ------- than he is. He doesn't smile at the prospect of jailing or putting the enemies of trump in prison.

#52 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-05 01:04 AM

Or camps.

#53 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-05 01:05 AM

"take the guns away from the crazies."

Repeal the Second Amendment.

#54 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-05 01:05 AM

It's pretty funny. Had to listen and read the howler monkey right screech about Obama "taking away our guns" for 8 years, while he did no such thing.

One mass shooting happens in Vegas and trump bans bump stocks. Not a peep out of the usual suspects. Now he's talking about blatantly violating the 2nd amendment. No NRA, no one here on the right cares.

I'm starting to think the only thing the right holds dear is winning power.

#55 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-05 01:08 AM

He and Legally have certainly made threats to public officials on this site. That by definition is someone who is crazy.

#56 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-09-05 01:08 AM

Should Zed's firearms be taken away due to the ------- crazy things he has said on this site?

No. That pesky 2nd Amendment thing says so.

#57 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-09-05 01:09 AM

Remember when Glen Beck used to scream about FEMA camps at the top of his lungs during the Obama years?

Now the same idiots cheer Alligator Alcatraz. Every accusation is a confession of their lack of inner character.

#58 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-05 01:09 AM

That by definition is someone who is crazy.

No, it is not.

#59 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-09-05 01:10 AM

He and Legally have certainly made threats to public officials on this site. That by definition is someone who is crazy.

#56 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-09-05 01:08 AM | Reply | Flag:

Zed? BULL ----. LYD? I have no idea, he's plonked.

Show me a post of Zed's threatening a public official. Better yet, show the FBI.

But you won't.

#60 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-05 01:11 AM

There's no possible way to pull up the archives, trust me I've looked.

#61 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-09-05 01:53 AM

There's no possible way to pull up the archives

Ok. That's funny.

#62 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-09-05 02:02 AM

Care to point the way Redial? Bc I've checked here and on the archive.org unfortunately that side only snapped certain days.

#63 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-09-05 02:05 AM

Site*

#64 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-09-05 02:06 AM

Care to point the way Redial?

You said there is no possible way. I was just suggesting there is no possible way for you to do it.

I'd imagine that the site administrators or the NSA could do it fairly easily.

#65 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-09-05 02:13 AM

web.archive.org

#66 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-09-05 02:39 AM

Let's see. I own an SKS Commando assault rifle. I believe in UFO's, I never bought into WMD's in Iraq, RussiaGate, the Laptop, or any of that silliness. I won't take Aspartame, I'm unvaccinated (the vaxxed will die, the unvaxxed will be hunted), and I think Fluoridation is neither safe or effective (only topically applied fluoride works, drinking it doesn't - you just don't swish it on your teeth for a minute).

But at least I don't think I'm a woman. Or want to be.

The difference is that if you give a man estrogen, it increases aggression, reduces impulse control, and fogs your mind. How can you accurately plan a massacre like that?

We live in an era where we can eat bugs, own nothing, and still be happy thanks to the Elite. Why would anyone need a gun?

#67 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2025-09-05 07:33 AM

Banning one group of people from gun ownership opens the door to banning other groups of people from gun ownership.
Welcome to the slippery slope.

#12 | Posted by ClownShack

Just like sending ICE against migrants is intended to set the stage for ICE being a generalized paramilitary organization that goes after anyone who displeases Dear Leader.

Gun rights for MAGA morons will never be touched, so, despite their incessant blathering about the sanctity of the 2A, they'll sit idly by while 2A rights for other groups gets eviscerated.

#68 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-05 10:19 AM

Why would anyone be against this? It's to protect the children.

If it was about protecting the children they'd be taking them from white 20 something year old virgins.

Also Zed, don't be shocked if the government comes for your guns next.

#18 | Posted by Bluewaffles

You know what won't shock me? Your indifference or even support of 2A rights being violated so long as it's people you don't like.

Because you're a piece of s*&^.

#69 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-05 10:22 AM

#20 | Posted by Bluewaffles

All of which are policies the right was adamantly against...until they weren't against it if Trump said so.

You f(*&ing idiots are such brainless piles of idiocy.

#70 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-05 10:23 AM

Yeah I'm not taking a bogus source from the ADL who has been sued into oblivion for lying as a credible source.

#33 | Posted by Bluewaffles

Yeah! Read my Fox News link instead!

Idiot.

#71 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-05 10:25 AM

#48 | Posted by Bluewaffles

The mass shootings list:

White 84 54%
Black 26 17%
Latino 12 8%
Asian 10 6%
Native American 3 2%
Other 5 3%
Unknown 15 10%

Total listed is 155.

5 trans shooters would account for 3.2%.

Not 6.2%.

You can't even do basic math, but you want people to take your s*&^ opinions seriously?

#72 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-05 10:28 AM

Sensible gun control we can all agree on. No guns for transbenders. For the children.

#73 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-09-05 11:33 AM

"Sensible gun control we can all agree on."

When pigs fly.

#74 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-09-05 11:52 AM

Re 73

So much for ..

Thou Shalt Not Infringe!

#75 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-09-05 11:59 AM

Guns are the leading cause of death for children.

What percentage of children killed with guns were killed by a transgender with a gun?

And don't forget to count the suicides by transgender children, whose parents are happy their defective kids are dead.

#76 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-05 12:03 PM

Sensible gun control we can all agree on.

Before this first stab at the 2A by Trump, there was no such thing as "sensible gun control" according to s*&^bags like you. What changed?

#77 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-05 12:05 PM

What changed?

POSTED BY JPW

Dear Leader has spoken.

#78 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-09-05 12:07 PM

"Sensible Gun Control" is the "Thoughts And Prayers" of the Left.

#79 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-05 12:10 PM

What an epic troll... Trump has the loony left fighting for gun rights.

#80 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-09-05 12:26 PM

Trump has deplorable Trumping MAGAts ready to surrender their arms.

Interesting times we live in.

#81 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-05 12:32 PM

Trump has the loony left fighting for gun rights.
#80 | Posted by lfthndthrds

And what are you fighting for?

#82 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-05 12:33 PM

What an epic troll...

Not really, he's just trying his best to distract from the Epstein files.

Not that pedophile supporters like you care.

The Republican Party is the pro pedophilia party.

No child is too young for Trump to rape!

#83 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-05 12:34 PM

what are you fighting for?
#82 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Turds is fighting for relevance.

Trump told him he matters.

#84 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-05 12:36 PM

Trump has the loony left fighting for gun rights.

Huh?

Democrats have always been for sensible gun laws.

Democrats overwhelmingly support stricter gun control measures to reduce gun violence, advocating for policies such as universal background checks, banning assault-style weapons and high-capacity magazines, and implementing "red flag" laws to keep guns from those deemed dangerous.

...
Now ... Can YOU answer the simple question?

...

And what are you fighting for?

#82 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

#85 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-09-05 12:49 PM

And what are you fighting for?

#82 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-05 12:33 PM | Reply | Flag

Not gun rights for the mentally insane.

#86 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-09-05 12:50 PM

Democrats have always been for sensible gun laws.

#85 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-09-05 12:49 PM | Reply | Flag:

First quantify "sensible"

Secondly, I've never had an issue with keeping guns away from crazy people or people on certain meds.

#87 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-09-05 12:55 PM

Not gun rights for the mentally insane.

POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

Dear Leader will not be pleased.

Trump made it easier for the mentally ill to get guns when he rolled back Obama regulation

In 2017, Trump quietly rolled back an Obama-era regulation that made it harder for people with mental illness to buy guns.

#88 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-09-05 12:55 PM

First quantify "sensible"

Reread post 85

I gave you a sample list you freakin tard.

#89 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-09-05 12:57 PM

And what are you fighting for?
#82 | Posted by snoofy

Not gun rights for the mentally insane.
#86 | Posted by lfthndthrds

So you're saying transgender people are mentally insane.

Who else? How about the gays?

#90 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-05 01:06 PM

I've never had an issue with keeping guns away from crazy people or people on certain meds.
#87 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Which crazy people, and which meds?

#91 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-05 01:07 PM

A pregnant lesbian black woman in a wheelchair sure as heck ain't gettin' a gun from here on out, that's for dang sure.

#92 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-09-05 01:15 PM

Sexual perversion and deviancy is a mental illness. LGBTQ no guns for you.

#93 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-09-05 01:35 PM

LGBTQ no guns for you.
#93 | Posted by visitor_

There we go!
First they came for the Transgenders.
Then they came for the Gays.

#94 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-05 01:39 PM

"deviancy"

Is it deviant or healthy normal for adult men to have sex with thirteen year old runaways?

#95 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-05 01:43 PM

Sexual perversion

What's considered "sexual perversion"?

Is adultery? Pedophilia? Sexual assault?

Or are all those okay because Trump engages in them all.

#96 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-05 01:50 PM

Lawrence v Texas was poorly adjudicated.
--JeffJ

It's sooo obvious where this is going.

We can't control guns, we have to institutionalize the Bad People so they can't get guns.

#97 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-05 01:59 PM

and this is where the left loses the issue

"banning assault-style weapons"

What it really means, ban 'scary' looking guns.

#98 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2025-09-05 02:14 PM

Does anyone know wtf kwrx is going on about?

That idiot gets dumber every time he posts.

#99 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-05 02:17 PM

We can't control guns, we have to institutionalize the Bad People so they can't get guns.

#97 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-05 01:59 PM | Reply | Flag:

This is a true statement in the USA.

#100 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-09-05 02:18 PM

Not gun rights for the mentally insane.

#86 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

So we can add the 2A to the lengthy list of things the right supposedly held dear right up until Trump told them not to.

#101 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-05 02:23 PM

Does anyone know wtf kwrx is going on about?

#99 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-05 02:17 PM | Reply

#85 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-09-05 12:49 PM | Reply

and this is where the left loses the issue
"banning assault-style weapons"
What it really means, ban 'scary' looking guns.

#98 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2025-09-05 02:14 PM | Reply

AWBs. A type of law so easily circumvented it's a waste of energy to talk about.

#102 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-09-05 02:58 PM

and this is where the left loses the issue
"banning assault-style weapons"
What it really means, ban 'scary' looking guns.
#98 | Posted by kwrx25

Fact is:
Uvalde Police were scared of a scary looking gun.

#103 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-05 03:03 PM

No, they were scared of the round it fired.

#104 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-05 03:54 PM

It's pretty simple the LGBTQs self identify as mentally ill. Let's start with the mentally ill and come back later for the trade unionists only if necessary.

#105 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-09-05 04:04 PM

#105 - such a good nazi!

#106 | Posted by YAV at 2025-09-05 04:34 PM

I did not see that comment coming from you.

#107 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-09-05 04:40 PM

Fact is:
Uvalde Police were scared of a scary looking gun.
#103 | Posted by snoofy

No, they were scared of the round it fired.
#104 | Posted by jpw

But why?

Didn't they have guns that fire similar rounds, and more lethal rounds?

Educate me.

#108 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-05 04:49 PM

AWBs. A type of law so easily circumvented it's a waste of energy to talk about.
#102 | Posted by sitzkrieg