Tuesday, September 16, 2025

Warning: We Will Be Decimated -- Literally -- If We Stay Quiet

Lukium: First, you brand your opponents as wicked, malicious, soulless. You tell the public they're "radicalized people," "terrorists," a "wicked ideology." You convince your followers that the very existence of the opposition is a mortal threat to family, to faith, to civilization itself. And there is only one final stop on that train. Dehumanization always has the same destination: extermination.

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MAGA's 'they' could be a smokescreen. This Analysis shows that Kirk's death is being twisted to brand the left as terrorists, while 75 years of data point to a deeper, quieter danger. https://americanmanifesto.news/warning-we-will-be-decimated-if-we-stays-quiet

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-- Lukium (@americanmanifesto.news) Sep 16, 2025 at 2:10 PM

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from the article:

"By incident count, the far right is about 2.6 times more violent than the far left. But when you measure the crimes against life"the people maimed and murdered"the far right exceeds the left by more than 10 to 1.

This isn't just my conclusion. It's the conclusion of Trump's own government. In October 2020, the Department of Homeland Security, under Trump's acting Secretary Chad Wolf, warned:

"Among DVEs [Domestic Violent Extremists], racially and ethnically motivated violent extremists"specifically white supremacist extremists"will remain the most persistent and lethal threat in the Homeland."4

Trump knew then what he pretends not to know now: the greatest terrorist threat facing America comes from the right."

It's not even debatable.

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-15 09:10 PM

The Plan to Stifle Dissent

Antichrist 45 | Brother Paul's channel

There are numerous news reports about how the Trump Administration is planning a wide crackdown on liberal groups in the aftermath of the Charlie Kirk assassination. Stephen Miller put it this way:

"The power of law enforcement, under President Trump's leadership, will be used to find you, will be used to take away your money, take away your power, and, if you've broken the law, to take away your freedom."

www.youtube.com

4+ mins

#2 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-15 10:38 PM

Yea gal, the only ones to actually kill someone under a banner of prove me wrong has come from the left. In a college campus no doubt.

Sure gal.

#3 | Posted by boaz at 2025-09-16 08:57 AM

#3 Flagged: Babbler Babbling

#4 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-09-16 09:01 AM

People are worried that Trump will ban the Democratic Party.

I'm worried, too.

Then we'll all be outlaws, I guess.

Except BOAZ, who will get the then very ironic Medal of Freedom.

#5 | Posted by Zed at 2025-09-16 09:06 AM

the only ones to actually kill someone under a banner of prove me wrong has come from the left"

This is murderously stupid, BOAZ. The worst and most dangerous sort of lie.

What exactly do you want here? Dead bodies at your feet?

I mean, WTF?

#6 | Posted by Zed at 2025-09-16 09:08 AM

Timothy McVeigh, Terry Nichols,the biggest domestic terrorists in our history. RIGHT Wing Nut Jobs. 267 Deaths in one attack on Children.

So all this talk about left wing attacks is a little lame and unconvincing.

The Mouth Breathers are just Pissed because their guy getting popped by a Tranny lover of all people makes them look Weak. "Gasp".

Can't have that.

#7 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-09-16 09:34 AM

Yea gal, the only ones to actually kill someone under a banner of prove me wrong has come from the left. In a college campus no doubt.
Sure gal.

#3 | Posted by boaz

LOL this idiot is now stooping to describing specific instances he thinks were done by "leftists" and making it sound like a broad trend to condemn "the left."

That's like me saying "Yea boaz, the only ones to actually kill kids in a federal building in Oklahoma City have come from the right. In a day care no doubt."

You're a pathetic ghoul, boaz. You're one of those scumbag lowlifes who wants there to be violence to justify acting on your own violent desires.

#8 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-16 10:36 AM

The Mouth Breathers are just Pissed because their guy getting popped by a Tranny lover of all people makes them look Weak. "Gasp".
Can't have that.

#7 | Posted by Effeteposer

You're overthinking it.

They're not pissed at all. They don't even really care all that much about Charlie Kirk.

They have violent plans and a desire to attack people they perceive as their enemies. They're not well people and have been constantly riled up and badgered with misinformation and the fomenting of a faux victim complex for exactly that purpose.

Charlie Kirk is but a fulcrum to pivot on and apply as much violence and, in their minds, justified death, misery and destruction on "the left."

Beyond being a justification, the rest of the flash point and all its details are irrelevant.

#9 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-16 10:41 AM

The sad thing about this is Republicans have been waging a war on America for the past decade while democrats have done nothing.

#10 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-16 11:21 AM

#9 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-16 10:41 AM | Reply | Flag

As a direct result of Kirk's murder

How many businesses were burned?
How many police officers were wounded/killed?
How many gov't buildings were torched/defaced
How many cars were overturned/burned?

Remind me again who actually did these things...

You're not very good at this

#11 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-09-16 01:19 PM

You aren't very good at this. You don't even think beyond this very second. It's amazing, really.

#12 | Posted by YAV at 2025-09-16 02:30 PM

Remind me again who actually did these things...
You're not very good at this

#11 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Where did I say it would be because of riots?

#13 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-16 02:33 PM

First, you brand your opponents as wicked, malicious, soulless. You tell the public they're "radicalized people," "terrorists," a "wicked ideology." You convince your followers that the very existence of the opposition is a mortal threat to family, to faith, to civilization itself.

Yeah! Stupid maggat natzees!! They are all wicked, malicious, and soulless.
They are all radicalized terror-ist nonpeople they all have a wicked ideology, even their children! A threat to our very democracy! they should not exist!

#14 | Posted by sir_vicks at 2025-09-17 08:00 AM

Warning: We Will Be Decimated -- Literally -- If We Stay Quiet

Okay, this statement is enraging to me.

Decimated means killing our destroying 1 or of 10.

The author means "devastated".

Words have bloody meanings!

#15 | Posted by RevDarko at 2025-09-17 12:15 PM


First, you brand your opponents as wicked, malicious, soulless. You tell the public they're "radicalized people," "terrorists," a "wicked ideology." You convince your followers that the very existence of the opposition is a mortal threat to family, to faith, to civilization itself. And there is only one final stop on that train. Dehumanization always has the same destination: extermination.

Is this guy talking about the left wing or the right wing? Its really hard to tell, they sound the same.

#16 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-09-17 12:26 PM

Trumpy killing 1/10 of Americans would be about 33 million people.

Seems a bit of hyperbole but any unnecessary deaths is still a very serious matter to consider.

Our sharp turn away from facts and science WILL cause (has already caused) Americans to die.

While 30% of Americans are no longer vaccinated even 1/10 seems to be a bit high for a number of Americans that will be killed or will have their lives destroyed by Trumpy's criminal negligence and hateful ignorance.

But who knows what the future holds for us now as I guess anything is possible with this dumpster fire of an administration.

#17 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-09-17 12:35 PM

"While 30% of Americans are no longer vaccinated..."

Careful.....misquoting vaccination statistics is a first-class ticket out of here.

#18 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-17 12:44 PM

Lukium: First, you brand your opponents as wicked, malicious, soulless. You tell the public they're "radicalized people," "terrorists," a "wicked ideology." You convince your followers that the very existence of the opposition is a mortal threat to family, to faith, to civilization itself. And there is only one final stop on that train. Dehumanization always has the same destination: extermination.

Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 07:33 PM | 18 COMMENTS | permalink | Comment on This Entry |

So, every thread about MAGA?

#19 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-09-17 12:55 PM

Careful.....misquoting vaccination statistics is a first-class ticket out of here.
#18 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Good thing I am not misquoting anything then.

Just quoting the facts. Do you have a different understanding?

It's tough to get exact statistics for all Americans.
My facts are based on CDC data.

Diphtheria, Tetanus, Pertussis (4+ doses DTP, DT, or DTaP): 80.4%
Polio (3+ doses): 92.5%
Measles, Mumps, Rubella (MMR) (1+ doses): 90.8%
Haemophilus influenzae type b (Hib) (primary series + booster dose): 80.0%
Hepatitis B (Hep B) (3+ doses): 91.4%
Chickenpox (Varicella) (1+ doses): 90.3%
Pneumococcal conjugate vaccine (PCV) (4+ doses): 81.4%
Combined 7-vaccine series: 69.7%

I am relying on the combined series rate of 69.7%.

But it's true this is for children. Which eventually become adults or so I am told.

www.cdc.gov

#20 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-09-17 12:56 PM

I went to the same site and saw that as well.

So what does the "combined 7-vaccine series" mean? All the above 7 individually have significantly higher rates of vaccination. Is the combined 7 something different?

IOW, can you conclude that 30% aren't vaccinated from that? It seems unlikely considering all of those individual diseases have a much higher vaccination rate.

I don't have any understanding of this issue which is why throughout COVID I stayed out of most of those arguments.

And I think it's unlikely we are going to disagree on vaccinations

#21 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-17 01:04 PM

Yeah! Stupid maggat natzees!! They are all wicked, malicious, and soulless.
They are all radicalized terror-ist nonpeople they all have a wicked ideology, even their children! A threat to our very democracy! they should not exist!

#14 | Posted by sir_vicks

The constitution has only faced one coup attempt. You know who attempted it.

#22 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-09-17 01:46 PM

Where did I say it would be because of riots?

#13 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-16 02:33 PM | Reply | Flag:

You didn't, you didn't need to.

Because we all know what happened during the summer of love following George Floyd's overdose. The left gets in a tizzy and burns ---- down when they get agitated.

#23 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-09-17 02:59 PM

Because we all know what happened during the summer of love following George Floyd's overdose. The left gets in a tizzy and burns ---- down when they get agitated.

#23 | Posted by lfthndthrds

The right attempts to burn down the constitution when they lose an election.

#24 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-09-17 03:18 PM

#20 | Posted by donnerboy

Don't forget scarlet fever. Scarlet fever was eliminated too.

Thank science for that!

#25 | Posted by sir_vicks at 2025-09-17 06:18 PM

" 9 | POSTED BY JPW AT 2025-09-16 10:41 AM | FLAG: "

I cannot believe how dumb you are sometimes. Charlie Kirk was assassinated on the heels of two attempts against Trump, Jews fire bombed during a small protest, 2 Israeli staffers gunned down 5o shouts of "Free Palestine!" Brian Thompson, The GOP softball game attempted massacre ... .all of this during a nonstop drumbeat from numerous elected Democrats including those at the highest levels characterizing conservatives and Republicans as Nazi's, Hitler, fascists, evil, killers of Democracy, etc ... .

And yet, here we are, with zero self awareness, we have a thread of lefties whining that they are being characterized as terrorists. This coming on the heels of, again, prominent members in the media and somewhat influential commentators claiming he got what he deserved. Some Democrats couldn't just condemn the violence, it always came with a "but" and then blaming Trump for bad rhetoric.

#26 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-17 08:07 PM

How many businesses were burned?
How many police officers were wounded/killed?
How many gov't buildings were torched/defaced
How many cars were overturned/burned?
Remind me again who actually did these things...
You're not very good at this

#11 | Posted by lfthndthrds

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#27 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-17 08:11 PM

I cannot believe how dumb you are sometimes. Charlie Kirk was assassinated on the heels of two attempts against Trump, Jews fire bombed during a small protest, 2 Israeli staffers gunned down 5o shouts of "Free Palestine!" Brian Thompson, The GOP softball game attempted massacre ... .all of this during a nonstop drumbeat from numerous elected Democrats including those at the highest levels characterizing conservatives and Republicans as Nazi's, Hitler, fascists, evil, killers of Democracy, etc ... .

And yet, here we are, with zero self awareness, we have a thread of lefties whining that they are being characterized as terrorists. This coming on the heels of, again, prominent members in the media and somewhat influential commentators claiming he got what he deserved. Some Democrats couldn't just condemn the violence, it always came with a "but" and then blaming Trump for bad rhetoric.

#26 | Posted by BellRinger

Democrats CORRECTLY describing the republican turn to fascism as FASCISM is not an incitement to violence. It is a recognition of reality. When your party loses and election and decides to try and topple democracy, it is YOUR fault that people say your party hates democracy.

You're like OJ Simpson whining that people yelled "murderer!" at him.

If you can't admit that trump amped up the hateful rhetoric in this country more than any other modern politician then you are either a moron or a liar.

#28 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-09-17 08:14 PM

I cannot believe how dumb you are sometimes. Charlie Kirk was assassinated on the heels of two attempts against Trump, Jews fire bombed during a small protest, 2 Israeli staffers gunned down 5o shouts of "Free Palestine!" Brian Thompson, The GOP softball game attempted massacre ... .all of this during a nonstop drumbeat from numerous elected Democrats including those at the highest levels characterizing conservatives and Republicans as Nazi's, Hitler, fascists, evil, killers of Democracy, etc ... .
And yet, here we are, with zero self awareness, we have a thread of lefties whining that they are being characterized as terrorists. This coming on the heels of, again, prominent members in the media and somewhat influential commentators claiming he got what he deserved. Some Democrats couldn't just condemn the violence, it always came with a "but" and then blaming Trump for bad rhetoric.

#26 | Posted by BellRinger

Hey ----, NO ONE is saying there isn't violence by people with left wing ideologies.

The simple FACTS are that right winger commit far more violence than left wingers

Kirk's murder seems to have been motivated by Kirk's own hate speech. That, obviously, doesn't justify it

But now compare what every single ------- dem politician and main stream pundit has been saying= Violence is wrong, Political violence is wrong, both sides need to find a way to stop the divide

The current president is blaming an amorphous "left", Stephen Miller is calling dems terrorists, Vance is naming specific left wing organizations they are going after

Stephen miller even said They are going to use the full weight of the federal government against left wing "terror networks" who he defines as anyone on the left AND if they did something illegal they would even get prosecuted

So, -------, why is Miller threatening organizations that didn't commit any crimes

#29 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-17 08:18 PM

"his coming on the heels of, again, prominent members in the media and somewhat influential commentators claiming he got what he deserved.

Who, you lying gash? Name a name, post a link you ------- -------.

#30 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-17 08:18 PM

-Democrats CORRECTLY describing the republican turn to fascism as FASCISM is not an incitement to violence

Fascist barely gets any attention.

Which is why terrorist and Nazi are the favorite terms.

Most folks don't have a clue what fascism means anyway.

#31 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-17 08:21 PM

" prominent members in the media and somewhat influential commentators claiming he got what he deserved."

Not what he "deserved"; no one deserves assassination. He got what he championed.

WORLD of difference.

#32 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-09-17 08:21 PM

www.usatoday.com

This is the presidents man on domestic policy you --------

Angered in the wake of Charlie Kirk's assassination, Trump administration officials say they're planning to use "every resource" available across the federal government to target left-leaning organizations they contend are promoting political violence.

"We are going to channel all of the anger that we have over the organized campaign that led to this assassination to uproot and dismantle these terrorist networks," Miller said as he joined Vance on a livestream as the vice president hosted "The Charlie Kirk Show" to pay tribute to the late conservative activist.

---- Trump
---- Vance
---- Miller
and
---- YOU!

#33 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-17 08:21 PM

Not what he "deserved"; no one deserves assassination. He got what he championed.
WORLD of difference.

#32 | Posted by Danforth

It is pointless to point our reality to that lying piece of ----.

#34 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-17 08:22 PM

-Hey ----, NO ONE is saying there isn't violence by people with left wing ideologies.

Jimmy just tried to.

FAFO

#35 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-17 08:23 PM

"Not what he "deserved"; no one deserves assassination. He got what he championed.

WORLD of difference."

Not if you aren't capable of making the distinction.

Joe 6-pack doesn't.

#36 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-17 08:24 PM

In my last paragraph I was referring to the reaction by some to Charlie Kirk's murder.

#37 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-17 08:25 PM

-It is pointless to point our reality to that lying piece of ----.

Still desperately seeking out a friend, obviously.

#38 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-17 08:25 PM

" Stephen miller even said They are going to use the full weight of the federal government against left wing "terror networks" who he defines as anyone on the left AND if they did something illegal they would even get prosecuted

So, -------, why is Miller threatening organizations that didn't commit any crimes

#29 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2025-09-17 08:18 PM | FLAG: "

"Terror networks" have to be established. With this shooter it looks like others were aware the attempt was going to be made. Accessories? I don't know. But it need# to be looked into. During Biden, Catholics, school parents and people praying by abortion clinics were deemed terrorists.

#39 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-17 08:29 PM

The left understandably keeps score on the violence coming from righties vs lefties.

But you have to recognize when something like this happens and it's clearly not the norm.

It's taken close to a week to get there for folks like Kimmel.

That's evidence some work too hard to keep score. It keeps you from accepting facts right in your face.

#40 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-17 08:30 PM

" Who, you lying gash? Name a name, post a link you ------- -------.

#30 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2025-09-17 08:18 PM | FLAG: "

I am not doing anything if you are going to talk to my like that. Say, "pretty please with sugar on top" and I'll reconsider.

#41 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-17 08:31 PM

Most folks don't have a clue what fascism means anyway.

#31 | Posted by eberly

That's why we use the word NAZI, then you whine about that too.

Fascism is the most accurate term, but we gotta dumb it down for the morons in your party.

#42 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-09-18 01:57 PM

-Hey ----, NO ONE is saying there isn't violence by people with left wing ideologies.

Jimmy just tried to.

FAFO

#35 | Posted by eberly

Quote him saying that.

#43 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-09-18 01:58 PM

"Terror networks" have to be established. With this shooter it looks like others were aware the attempt was going to be made. Accessories? I don't know. But it need# to be looked into. During Biden, Catholics, school parents and people praying by abortion clinics were deemed terrorists.

#39 | Posted by BellRinger

In a fascist dicatorship, terror networks are whoever the dictator says they are.

Provide proof of your second claim.

#44 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-09-18 02:00 PM

"That's why we use the word NAZI,"

nobody cares anymore.

that term has been so overused it's invisible.

#45 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-18 02:31 PM

"That's why we use the word NAZI,"

nobody cares anymore.

that term has been so overused it's invisible.

#45 | Posted by eberly

So you admit that magats are too dumb to understand accurate word FASCISM, then whine that using the metaphorical language they WILL understand has been overused.

What has been overused is the republican embrace of fascism, not the left calling it what it is.

#46 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-09-18 03:05 PM

"So you admit that magats are too dumb to understand accurate word FASCISM,"

Yes.

And a lot of lefties don't understand what it means either........so there's that.

What has been overused is the republican embrace of fascism

True, and one of the reasons is because they don't know they're embracing fascism. Rather, they think they are owning libs.

That's how much you're hated, suck. Just to rub ---- in your case, people are willing to support fascist moves without even realizing they are doing it.

#47 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-18 04:12 PM

That's how much you're hated, suck. Just to rub ---- in your case, people are willing to support fascist moves without even realizing they are doing it.
#47 | Posted by eberly

And where does the hate stem from?

#48 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2025-09-18 04:15 PM

-And where does the hate stem from?

pride & entitlement. And honestly...who on the right do you expect to like someone like speaksoftly when you see how he refers to them?

#49 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-18 04:19 PM

True, and one of the reasons is because they don't know they're embracing fascism. Rather, they think they are owning libs.

That's how much you're hated, suck. Just to rub ---- in your case, people are willing to support fascist moves without even realizing they are doing it.

#47 | Posted by eberly

That's the reason republicans hate education. You can't get people to support your fascist uprising if they've learned about what fascist uprisings look like and where they lead.

Your party thrives on ignorance.

#50 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-09-18 04:55 PM

And honestly...who on the right do you expect to like someone like speaksoftly when you see how he refers to them?

#49 | Posted by eberly

I refer to them correctly, as fascists. You're the one who says they're too stupid to know what that means.

#51 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-09-18 04:56 PM

"Your party thrives on ignorance and an intense dislike of people like me"

FT

#52 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-18 05:11 PM

"Your party thrives on ignorance and an intense dislike of people like me"

FT

#52 | Posted by eberly

It's their ignorance that makes them hate people who speak the truth.

#53 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-09-18 06:31 PM

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