Many of them are doing so out of a well-meaning but ill-informed abundance of caution.

Bulls*&^. It's arrogant ignorance. Period.

People who have passed, maybe, high school biology making emotion based, grifting "wellness" industry-confirmed decisions because they think they know better than doctors and nurses following recommendations based on decades of medical practice and study.

I'm annoyed by articles screaming about doubling rates, 100% increase but then don't include the actual numbers, going from 0.9 to 1.6% doesn't get clicks or outrage.

#19 | Posted by mattm

Dubious stats for clicks is a problem.

In the broader context, however, this is quite concerning. Decades of hard won and lifesaving medical interventions are being forgone because people watched a YouTube video recommended by their chiropractor and *boom* algorithm takes over and before you know it, Betty Sue the cashier at Walgreens is telling doctors she don't need to stinkin' vaccines or vitamin k shots for her new baby. That's what the Himalayan Rock Salt lamp and smoky quartz crystals are for!

The funny thing is you think you're better than those people,

Ummmmmm f*&^ yeah I am. I'm not stupid enough to be so arrogant at my children's expense. You apparently are?

going to the opposite extreme, being a pharma bitch, gaslighting people about their own experiences to various drugs that were forced on them.

#25 | Posted by sentinel

What experiences? Better yet, how can little miss high school biology with her degree from YouTube University reliably assess her experiences and determine cause?

Because in the end, and I'm sure you'll get super butthurt hearing this, most people can't accurately assess cause.

There's a reason the scientific method was developed. It's because people generally suck at explaining their experiences.

Oh and "pharma bitch"? LOL if you had any idea what my job is you'd know why all I can do is laugh at that.

Maybe people might want to consider more nuanced opinions, but nah... this is the Retort.

#26 | Posted by sentinel

LOL this from the guy who just a few lines earlier said this...

Do you feel the same way about people who have qualms about mutilating the -------- of newborns?

is she reacting like that because she's just been circumcised?

WTF does that have to do with neonatal Vitamin K shots and Hep B vaccines?

You're playing dumb here, as usual. The Vitamin K shots are a trivial example, but it's in the same group of bodily invasive medical procedures that have been forced upon the population at large because of the benefits it has for a very tiny fraction of it.

You're not a serious person.

The vitamin k shot is to ensure something that can be fatal and unpredictable doesn't happen. You're beyond stupid if you gamble your newborn's life over a few seconds of mild pain.

Do you wear a helmet 24/7?

#48 | POSTED BY SENTINEL

During high potential risk activities.

Keep trying to justify stupidity. It's a great look, SSentinel.

Risking brain hemorrhage and death of your infant to avoid a few seconds of discomfort is beyond stupid. The word doesn't capture the absolute self absorbed absurdity of it.

People whose kids die from stuff like this should be criminally charged.

It's so nice that we have zero room for agreement or disagreement on anything, isn't it? The recommendations of the medical community must never be questioned, and anyone who does is "stupid" and "evil", whether we're talking about a rushed vaccine, surgical mutilations, or very rare non-communicable diseases.

Look at this hysterical cooze, getting all whiny because people think he's stupid for refusing a single vitamin injection that can prevent brain hemorrhages and death in newborns.

Oh, to be the poor persecuted rational one in the room, eh, SSentinel?

BTW as always, simply asking questions is good enough, sport. The questions have to be informed and worthwhile. Otherwise, you're just expressing ignorance followed by "?" instead of ".".

I'm the one arguing against hysteria driven by mob mentalities. You're the one defending it.

My God, the level of self-righteous, self-unaware delusion present in this line is astounding.

You're "questioning" a procedure that has zero significant side effects but can prevent the permanent disablement or death of a newborn...because you're the smart, rational one? Pfffftt.

There's a reason your argument continues to be hyperventilating coozery like this line

"Think of the bleeding children!" Think of how many atrocities have been committed with hyper emotional rhetoric like that.

You'd think we were the ones pushing for a position that permanently maims and/or kills newborns.

What a f*&^ing idiot.

It's incredible that he thinks he's the rational one when his argument is FOR gambling with a newborn's life to avoid a brief period of mild discomfort.