Netanyahu Is Making Israel Radioactive

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Thomas Friedman: Israel today is in grave danger. With enemies like Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis and Iran, Israel should be enjoying the sympathy of much of the world.

Friedman, as usual, looks in a political rear view mirror and sees the "future" - Israel had "enemies like Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis and Iran..." for decades - first through all the Soviet Union-supported Arabic states' genocidal wars since Day 1 of Israel's existence... and after decades of supporting Islamist terrorist organizations like PLO, PFLP and PIJ, and spreading disinformation by Soviet Union's KGB and GRU, using "Palestinians" as an issue... so it never was "enjoying the sympathy of much of the world"... because "Jooos."
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Our resident Russian troll Effeteposer is just one tiny cog in that old war machine, while former KGB/FSB Colonel Vladimir Putin is trying to reconstruct the "glorious" Federation of former Soviet Republics, and his partner Ayatollah of Iran is doing what he can to help.

www.ynetnews.com - The KGB Middle East files

|------- Chapter 2: Palestinian spies
Palestinians in service of Mother Russia

Secret KGB documents reveal just how deeply involved the Soviet Union was... The Russian spy agency provided Palestinian terror organizations with funds, training and arms, running agents like 'Krotov'/'Mole' Mahmoud Abbas, 'Aref' Yasser Arafat and 'Nationalist,' who was behind several plane hijackings long before 9/11. ...
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Egypt and Jordan have since been "living side by side" and trading with Israel, several Arab states just signed peace and trade treaties, and the big fish, Saudis were about to do the same. So Iran (not Arab country) pulled the trigger on one of "their" Palestinian terrorist groups to prevent the "peace process" from completion.

One of many serious articles from Arab and Palestinian authors: **
www.gatestoneinstitute.org - Why Arabs Are Fed up With the Palestinians - by Khaled Abu Toameh, July 12, 2022 (well before October 7, 2023)

|------- The Palestinians can only blame themselves for antagonizing their Arab brothers... The Palestinians have been spitting in the face of the Arab countries, while at the same time expecting these countries to continue funding them.

The Arabs are clearly not as nave as the Americans and Europeans, who are continuing to pour millions of dollars annually on the Palestinians...

Had the Palestinians welcomed the many peace accords between Israel and the Arab states instead of condemning them*** and bad-mouthing the Arab leaders, they would have been in a much better situation today...

The Palestinian leadership, by contrast, is happy to fail its people by indoctrinating generation after generation with bloodlust for Jews. ...

The truth is that most of the Arab countries long ago turned their backs on the Palestinians. ... It is ironic that while the European Union recently announced its decision to resume unconditional financial aid to the Palestinians, the Arab countries continue to completely ignore the Palestinians. It is also ironic that while the Biden administration continues to talk about providing financial aid to the Palestinians, the Arab countries do not seem to care at all about their Palestinian brothers in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. ...

... prominent Kuwaiti journalist Ahmed Al-Jarallah explained why he and many others are fed up with the Palestinians. "We are the only ones who rescued them [Palestinians] in 1970 when they launched their war on Jordan. The late Sheikh Saad Al-Abdullah evacuated their leader Yasser Arafat from Amman..." -------|
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** www.newsweek.com - My Fellow Palestinians: It's Time to Get Rid of Our Leaders and Accept Israel's Offers for Peace - Bassem Eid, PALESTINIAN HUMAN RIGHTS ACTIVIST - Jan 28, 2024

|------- There's been a lot of criticism of Israel recently for purportedly rejecting a two-state solution... The truth is more complex. As a Palestinian who genuinely yearns for a two-state solution and an improvement in living conditions in the West Bank and Gaza, I believe this truth must be told: It is Israel - and the Zionist Jewish community preceding independence - that consistently offered compromise, dialogue, and a two-state solution. And it is Palestinian demagogues valuing personal power over the good of their people who have rejected these openhanded offers - in favor of endless strife and the desire that the Jewish community be completely destroyed.

It is the Palestinian Arab nationalist movement that has betrayed the Palestinian people and consistently opposed peace. ... -------|
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*** Bill Clinton tried "peace process" with Arafat who was only stringing everyone along while skimming billions of USDs for himself and associates, just before starting Second Intifada:

www.newsweek.com - Clinton To Arafat: It's All Your Fault - Jun 26, 2001
|------- ... Bill Clinton gave vent to his frustrations this week over the collapse of peace in the Mideast. And Clinton directed his ire at one man: Yasir Arafat. ... Clinton said he told Arafat that by turning down the best peace deal he was ever going to get - the one proffered by Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak and brokered by Clinton last July... . But Arafat didn't listen. ...

He described Arafat as an aging leader who relishes his own sense of victimhood and seems incapable of making a final peace deal....

Clinton said he bluntly contradicted Arafat when... the Palestinian leader expressed doubts that the ancient Jewish temple actually lay beneath the Islamic-run compound in Jerusalem containing the holy Al Aqsa Mosque and the Dome of the Rock. -------|
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www.theguardian.com - Arafat didn't negotiate - he just kept saying no - The Guardian, May 22, 2002

|------- ... Clinton said: "... The true story of Camp David was that for the first time in the history of the conflict the American president put on the table a proposal, based on UN Security Council resolutions 242 and 338, very close to the Palestinian demands, and Arafat refused even to accept it as a basis for negotiations, walked out of the room, and deliberately turned to terrorism."

Clinton was speaking of the two-week-long Camp David conference in July 2000... and its failure, and the eruption at the end of September of the Palestinian intifada which has continued since.

Arafat said no. -------|
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honestreporting.com - In Depth: Arafat Rejected Peace in 2000 - July 11, 2021

|------- Recent peace agreements between Israel and UAE, Bahrain and Sudan have changed the face of the Arab-Israeli conflict and revealed a pent-up frustration among Arab nations with the long-standing Palestinian veto on their ability to normalize relations with Israel.

... Bandar... focusing on Palestinian leadership mistakes over the decades, capped off in the final part recounting the colossal error committed by Palestinian leader Yassir Arafat in rejecting a peace agreement with Israel in 2000-2001. -------|
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#9 | POSTED BY CUTIEPIE AT 2024-03-19 03:30 AM | FLAG: PPPFFFFTTTTTTTT

Nice shopping list of presumed failures. Imagine all that happened before the Arabs owned our nation's largest oil refinery or Israel owned Big Pharma and our power grid.

It's so hard to pick a side.. ya know... which grease balls have to die and leave us with a "clear conscience"?

hmmmmmmm what to do what to do

To quote GWBhole on a note he passed to Condelezza Rice...6-28-04 after the Palestinians held their first democratic-style election... You know the purple thumb moment?
"Let Freedom Reign"
He felt he inspired it all, Hamas assumed power... yay... another theocracy was installed. Oh well. Islam is a religion of peace.

heavy sigh... trust fund brats... what ya gonna do?

I'm just wondering ...Aren't all orthod0x religions, around the planet the real sources for terrorism? I don't care which God they claim to speak for; they will are all dangerous liars and our common enemy. They all claim the same thing : God spoke to their prophet and thus his words become God's words. It's all b.s....all of it...and I don't care if your sky fairy told you different.

"Arafat said no."

So did Yigal Amir.

Anyone who says Yes gets a bullet.

"Clinton was speaking of the two-week-long Camp David conference in July 2000... and its failure, and the eruption at the end of September of the Palestinian intifada which has continued since."

Oh you mean this failure?

Tensions eventually came to a head in 2000, when then-opposition leader Ariel Sharon entered the compound, flanked by 1,000 officers, in a parade of power, unleashing the second Intifada (uprising), also known as the Al-Aqsa Intifada.
www.aljazeera.com

Good article about the Jews trying to erase Al Aqsa from the face of the earth:

"Morris said in 2017: "When we can say the Temple Mount is ours and only ours and there isn't room there for anyone else ... then we can conquer not only the Temple Mount but Jordan, and Syria, too, and establish a real Jewish state over all the land of Israel."

#11 Danni, in this conflict, it is absolutely the religious zealots who make peace impossible.

Not allowing basic human rights while stealing everything in sight is the real obstacle to peace.

APARTHEID and theft under color of law.

FIFY.

"The Arab/Muslim Israelis and other "pacifist" or "non-violence" religious sects are also exempt," If the rest of the country is fighting for god then nobody in the religion can be a pacifist. Also, if israel had a border that did not move things would not be as bad. It is all a mess due to religion on both sides. We should really just stop supporting both sides.

"Not allowing basic human rights while stealing everything in sight is the real obstacle to peace."

Uh, you just described Hamas perfectly.

"Good article about the Jews trying to erase Al Aqsa from the face of the earth:"

The Jews could do that in a heartbeat. One GBU-31V1 and the place no longer exists.

In fact, the "Jews" actually allow the Islamic group than administers the Mosque to exclude non-Muslims from entry.

Israel is toast. All they can do well is buy off corruptible American politicians and murder women and children. It's all caught up with them and things will never be the same.

"Israel is toast."

#19

Really?

You think the Palestinians (or someone else) are finally going to see their dreams come true with the extirpation of the Jewish state?

Will it be the Islamic State that replaces it?

I'm just curious, because from my vantage point, even the predominantly Muslim Arab states don't seem to have much interest in a Palestinian state governed by Islamists.

They spent too much time trying to rid Syria and Iraq of those people.

"One GBU-31V1 and the place no longer exists."

At the cost of permanent war with the entire Muslim world.

Believe it or not, that would be bad for Israel.

Israel is toast. All they can do well is buy off corruptible American politicians and murder women and children. It's all caught up with them and things will never be the same.

#19 | Posted by pumpkinhead

They had their jewish homeland but they just couldnt resist stealing more land from poor people who were already there.

This is what happens when your government gets captured by religious extremists.

In fact, the "Jews" actually allow the Islamic group than administers the Mosque to exclude non-Muslims from entry.
#18 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

Why is Jews in quotes?
Also, Jews enter, just not during certain sensitive times.
Jews have tried to blow it up too.

Really?

Yes. Because, in America, it's the youth who are increasingly turning their backs on Israel, while in Israel, it's the youth who are most embracing the fascist and racist worldview and ideologies of the far-right.

It won't end well for the fascists and racists. Never does. Hamas no longer matters. Israel is toast.

"At the cost of permanent war with the entire Muslim world. Believe it or not, that would be bad for Israel."

Agreed. It would almost be like...attacking and killing a thousand or so civilians. A war crime. Terrorism.

Which is why the not only allow it to keep existing, but actually preserve it.

"Yes. Because, in America, it's the youth who are increasingly turning their backs on Israel."

Team Tik Tok is quitting Israel. When they're not quiet quitting or doing some other type of quitting.

And this is good for Hamas. Team Tik Tok is literally their biggest and most reliable ally. Because they have the ability to apply pressure during an election year. Or so they think.

And I still don't understand the "toast" comment. Israel will still be as much a part of the global community in 20 years as they are right now. Maybe an even bigger part, because outside Team Tik Tok, there isn't a lot of support for Hamas, their goals, or what they have done over the past several decades.

"It won't end well for the fascists and racists. Never does."

Which is why the lesser part of Hamas is dying in Gaza, while the greater part is enjoying their billions in Doha.

There is no conceivable path forward that includes Hamas. That would have been like including the National Socialists in a post-WWII German government.

Anyway, Israel has dug its own grave. Hamas no longer matters. Hamas was weak to begin with, but they were able to get Israel to go full-bore Nazi. That's all that matters now. Israel cannot step back from that. Toast.

To the youth belongs the future. Not the fascist, racist youth currently representing the future of Israel. Thus it will be to tyrants, fascists and racists.

"To the youth belongs the future. Not the fascist, racist youth currently representing the future of Israel."

Dunno. Those youth seem to overwhelmingly support Israel's response to the October 7th terrorist attacks. And they're the ones that will be going to war. In fact even the ultra-orthodox Haredi Jews who take umbrage with the current state of Israel are joining the military.

I guess one Holocaust per 100 years is enough.

Which is why the lesser part of Hamas is dying in Gaza, while the greater part is enjoying their billions in Doha.
- mad bomber

Thanks Tony!

To the youth belongs the future. Not the fascist, racist youth currently representing the future of Israel. Thus it will be to tyrants, fascists and racists.
#28 | POSTED BY PUMPKINHEAD

Theocracy over democracy.....

Not surprised.

"At the cost of permanent war with the entire Muslim world. Believe it or not, that would be bad for Israel."

This shows a complete misunderstanding of the entire Muslim world.

"This shows a complete misunderstanding of the entire Muslim world."

Not Lumpy enough?

It would almost be like...attacking and killing a thousand or so civilians. A war crime. Terrorism.
Which is why the not only allow it to keep existing, but actually preserve it.
#25 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

Killing civilians is a war crime now?
How many civilians has Israel killed?

"There is no conceivable path forward that includes Hamas. "

That's why there's no path forward.
Islamic Resistance is not going away, at least not in the timescale of the next 75 years of Israel's existence.

The best Israel can hope for is to turn themselves into a giant Club Med where you never go outside the compound.
Israel understands this, and that's why they're annexing a 1km wide buffer zone on the Gaza side of the border with Gaza.

"Israel cannot survive in peace, which is why it is cursed to eventually perish in war. Its ideological core is fundamentally structured to help it win every battle excepting its last one. Like a nocuous snake who is surrounded on all sides, eventually the snake gets so completely paranoid that it strikes through darkness and ends up biting its own tail." -Yisroel Weiss

"Killing civilians is a war crime now?"

IT most definitely is when the civilians are the intended target. Under the Law of Armed Conflict, civilians have no military value.

"How many civilians has Israel killed?"

I don't think Israel has targeted any civilians. Maybe a handful who fit the profile of valid military targets based on their positions within Hamas.

"Islamic Resistance is not going away, at least not in the timescale of the next 75 years of Israel's existence."

Or, you can show Palestinians that everything bade that's happened to them has been because of Hamas. Kind of like the Sunni awakening against Al Quaeda a decade ago.

"How many civilians has Israel killed?"

"I don't think Israel has targeted any civilians"

That wasn't the question.

#38 wants you to explain to the parents of a dead 9 year old who the IDF sniped from a half mile away that Hamas did it.

Definitely the completely normal thoughts of a completely normal person.

"That wasn't the question."

It's the question you were intending to ask, if you're being honest. I don't really suspect you of being honest.

In this case, many if not most of the deaths in Gaza can be legally attributed to Hamas and their illegal activities according to the Law of Armed Conflict.

LOAC states that belligerents are required to segregate themselves from the civilian population. Hamas uses them as cover. Presumably, Israeli targeting policy is close to the US in that it requires things like CDE, proportionality, military validity, etc. If this is the case, then the deaths in Gaza are a function of criminal Hamas activity. At least with regards to International Humanitarian Law. Although I'm sure friends of ISIS (including yourself) will disagree.

"Definitely the completely normal thoughts of a completely normal person."

I'm just curious how much OPLAW experience you have.

Does Tik Tok get into much OPLAW?

You're saying Israel unintentionally killed 30,000 civilians since Oct 7.

That's laughable.

It's like saying the Red Army unintentionally raped half the women in East Germany.

"In this case, many if not most of the deaths in Gaza can be legally attributed to Hamas and their illegal activities according to the Law of Armed Conflict."

No they can't.

The deaths occured when the Israeli Defense Forces dropped bombs on them.

Hamas can't make Israel drop bombs. Only Israel can make Israel drop bombs.

"I don't think Israel has targeted any civilians."

Do you not read the newspapers? Israel's own estimate is two civilians killed for every Hamas fighter killed.

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#13 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-03-19 08:19 AM
Good article about the Jews trying to erase Al Aqsa from the face of the earth: aljazeera.com

Talk about Al-Jazeera cherry-picking a dying marginal movement of "the Jews" and usual, old Arab grievances: muse.jhu.edu - Temple Mount Faithful movement [PDF, 19p] or wiki: en.m.wikipedia.org

Grievances here: en.m.wikipedia.org - Excavations at the Temple Mount
here: www.jcpa.org - The destruction of the Temple Mount antiquities ...
and here: architexturez.net - Arabs continue destroying Jewish archaeology on the Temple Mount, and on, and on...

"The intention is to turn the entire 36-acre Temple Mount compound into an exclusively Muslim site by erasing every sign, memory of its Jewish past..."

en.m.wikipedia.org: |------- Temple Mount is a hill in the Old City of Jerusalem that has been venerated as a holy site in Judaism, Christianity, and Islam for thousands of years.

... Some Arab-Muslim commentators and scholars attempt to deny Jewish connection with the Temple Mount...

The site, along with the whole of East Jerusalem (which includes the Old City), was controlled by Jordan from 1948 until 1967 and has been occupied by Israel since the Six-Day War of 1967. Shortly after capturing the site, Israel handed its administration back to the Waqf under the Jordanian Hashemite custodianship, while maintaining Israeli security control. The Israeli government enforces a ban on prayer by non-Muslims as part of an arrangement...

... On 28 September 2000, then-opposition leader of Israel Ariel Sharon and members of the Likud Party, along with 1,000 armed guards, visited the al-Aqsa compound. After Sharon and the Likud Party members left, a demonstration erupted and Palestinians on the grounds of the Haram al-Sharif began throwing stones and other projectiles at Israeli riot police. ... The visit sparked a five-year uprising by the Palestinians, commonly referred to as the al-Aqsa Intifada, though some commentators, citing subsequent speeches by Palestinian Authority officials, particularly Imad Falouji and Yasir Arafat, claim that the Intifada had been planned months in advance, as early as July upon Arafat's return from Camp David. -------|

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|------- In the immediate aftermath of these events, it was generally accepted... that Arafat had made a grave error in rejecting a deal that Barak accepted. However, not too long afterwards and in the years since, revisionist historians and journalists have endeavored to portray the events as far more ambiguous, inherently flawed and misunderstood, thereby absolving Arafat of fault. ...

The best review of the events at Camp David was written by chief U.S. negotiator Dennis Ross, published in 2004.[3] Broadly... and backed by Ross and numerous observers, Arafat and his team rejected all proposals... Arafat famously denied that a Jewish Temple existed on the Temple Mount and instead insisted that the real temple was built in Nablus. The fact that Arafat could not accept even the most basic Jewish history in the region was seen by both the Israelis and Clinton as an insult to their intelligence and a sign that Arafat was not negotiating in good faith. ... -------|

They complain about "the Jews" trying to "erase" al-Aqsa, while their own charter demands erasing Jews and entire nation from the face of the earth, just what Putin wants to do to Ukrainians. Bizarro World.
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