Father Time

Sunday, June 16, 2024

"Dads are not nearly as exalted, targeted with gag gifts, sports swag or barbecue and gardening tools," said Carol Osborne, director of the University of South Florida's Zimmerman Advertising Program in the Muma College of Business. "The trends haven't changed much since the 1940s â still some seldom used item dad wouldn't buy for himself, but also overspending: Practice (golf) putting toys, bar tools, barbecue tools in a wooden case."

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Thinking of a page in the newspaper (remember them?) I saw years ago. The page had two stories. First was dad runs into burning building to save his child. The second was father beats his child to death.
I guess it takes all kinds.

#1 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2024-06-16 09:04 AM | Reply

Personally, ---- that jit-bag. My dad abandoned me when I was one, and now I'm raising my girl's sons whose dad abandoned them.
Takes all kinds I guess.

#2 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2024-06-16 09:06 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

To all of the conservatives whose adult don't want nothing to do with them, happy father's day.

I mean, at least someone said it to you..

#3 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-06-16 09:27 AM | Reply

Happy Father's Day to all the good dads out there.

#4 | Posted by rcade at 2024-06-16 09:49 AM | Reply

Personally, ---- that jit-bag. My dad abandoned me when I was one, and now I'm raising my girl's sons whose dad abandoned them.
Takes all kinds I guess.

#2 | Posted by TFDNihilist

doing the right thing....role model... break the cycle.

--impressive.

#5 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-06-16 10:44 AM | Reply

Happy Father's day, Rcade, and to all the dads in this community.

My dad was abandon and left a mother with 3 boys, who could only afford 2.
Dad was sent to his aunt's (who beat him) home to raise him .

He tried to escape, and return to his mom, by bicycling 40 miles to her place, only to be immediately taken back to the Aunt. Fast forward several years, and he was flying combat missions in WW2 at 19 years old.

He came home after the war with undiagnosed PTSD (couldn't control outbuursts of rage) and continued philandering till he and mom divorced. In the mean time, he and mom had 6 kids. He tried but pretty much failed as a father. I was about 5 or 6yrs when I realized he was pretty effed up, and I started making mental notes of how I would do things differently when I had kids. I never stopped actively trying to avoid the behavior he displayed as 'father'.

His later life was actually pretty OK. He remarried, and had a second chance to try
to do better as a 'family' man. luckily he was treated for depression in his senior years and his entire demeanor changed for the better.

In retrospect, he never really had a chance to be happy.

Most of us Boomers lived with damaged dads. They were so common, we didn't even know they were damaged. We just figured that most all dad's were kind of horsezarses.

I hope everybody enjoys the day. Respect and regards to all who carried the burdons of the father role. May your children love you all.

#6 | Posted by Wardog at 2024-06-16 10:48 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

My Father too was a WW2 combat veteran. He passed away over 7 years ago at 92. Not a day goes by that I don't think about him.

#7 | Posted by shane at 2024-06-16 11:18 AM | Reply

My Father too was a WW2 combat veteran. He passed away over 7 years ago at 92. Not a day goes by that I don't think about him.

#7 | Posted by shane at 2024-06-16 11:18 AM | Reply | Flag:

That's awesome that you remember your dad that way.

My dad enlisted in '61 - early Vietnam conflict. Lost him to Mesothelioma in Jan 2016 and I've thought about him every day since he passed.

#8 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-06-16 11:30 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The article talks about marketing being a big difference in how the 2 days are celebrated and I"m certain that's true, but it's

also the difference in the emotional makeup of men and women. Dads generally being less comfortable with

them.....that and, generally speaking of course, dads want to do something....baseball game / golf / fishing etc.

rather than sitting around after a meal someone else cooked and talk.

So many dads love to barbecue for hours today with family ( and beer...plenty of beer )

try telling your wife that for mother's day you'd like her to spend 3 or 4 hours in the kitchen
and see how that works out for you.

#9 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-06-16 11:31 AM | Reply

My father died in 1986, young at age 56, of what they said was lung cancer. I flew down from Boston to Dallas to see him one last time when I was told that week was my last chance.

He was lying in the hospital bed, on oxygen, and plenty of painkillers. He looked up an me and smiled, glad to see me. Then he said, "Did you see that big pink rabbit that was just in here?".

Obviously the drugs talking, so I sat with him and talked for a while. Later I mentioned to his nurse what he has said about the big pink rabbit.

She said, "Oh, yeah. That was one of his friends. He came in wearing a big Easter bunny suit and danced around the room for a while."

He had some interesting friends, and I knew right away which one that was!

Happy Father's Day, Dad!

#10 | Posted by Corky at 2024-06-16 11:34 AM | Reply

#5 | Posted by shrimptacodan

Thanks, I already raised one son, and this is definitely not how I expected to spend my retirement.

#11 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2024-06-16 11:46 AM | Reply

#7 | Posted by shane

--same here.

8th Air Force. 30 bombing missions completed and writing a letter telling them he was coming home, when orders to halt all leave / transfers
came in. It seemed that Ike had different plans.

made it back...from France... and before debriefing was over CO asked for volunteers to do another.
he grabbed a sandwich / pack of smokes and threw back 2 shots of bourbon from a bottle that sat on a table with a cross and bible
and went to the briefing room.

I can only try to be the man / father / husband he was.

#12 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-06-16 11:54 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Thanks, I already raised one son, and this is definitely not how I expected to spend my retirement.

#11 | Posted by TFDNihilist

I have 2 good friends who said the exact same thing.

in one case the grandson is now a dad and works his ass off to provide.....just like his granddad did for him.

the other didn't work out so well....but he tried.

do whatcha gotta do.

#13 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-06-16 12:01 PM | Reply

I think of my father every day, most often with a wistful smile. That smile often starts out bittersweet - fathers and sons , fathers and sons - and because we got to know each other better as we both aged it leans strongly to the sweet.

#14 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2024-06-16 12:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

do whatcha gotta do.
#13 | Posted by shrimptacodan

On the bright side, I get to wake up next to the supermodel hot mom.

#15 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2024-06-16 12:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Mayo
@MayoIsSpicyy

18s
Father's Day is a great time to remind everyone that Donald Trump procured a pornstar because he thought she looked just like his daughter.

#16 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-06-16 02:13 PM | Reply

To any Father who has outlived a child, I feel your pain today. It's a hard day for some of us.

I love the daughter I have left very much. She has turned into a far better person than I could have ever hoped for.

Happy Fathers Day to you DR dads. You never know what tomorrow brings. So give your kids a big hug today.

#17 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2024-06-16 02:13 PM | Reply

My dad died 2 years ago. I wished him Happy Father's Day and told him that we miss him this morning.

#18 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-06-16 02:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Mine died when I was 22. Miss him every day. He was the best man I've ever known.

#19 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2024-06-16 02:19 PM | Reply

Damn. 22 is awfully young to lose your dad. I was 51 when he died. He was a great man and I truly miss him.

#20 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-06-16 02:26 PM | Reply

JEFF

I know your loss is much fresher than mine. It's a HUGE loss to lose a beloved father.

I can still feel the pain all these years later opening that telegraph, getting the unexpected news, the funeral, etc.

#21 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2024-06-16 02:35 PM | Reply

#18 | Posted by BellRinger

I've been thinking about you since I read about your dad's passing is so recent.

I've heard it said that "grief is the price we pay for love." Everything you feel today leads back to the love you two had for each other.

Just a brotherly expression of knowing empathy :-)

#22 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2024-06-16 05:33 PM | Reply

My dad had unprotected sex with a married virgin. Well sex didn't really happen he was in a different zip code. So I was sort of adopted by me mama's boyfriend. He wasn't much of a planner though. Due to him being too lazy to call for a reservation I ended up being born in a barn. Got good birthday gifts though

Growing up wasn't bad. My dad made a good living as a union carpenter. I did get lost this one time and ended up in a church of all places.

So get this everyone is treating me as a god. And the locals didn't like it so they literally crucify me. So I call my baby daddy to get him to bail me out and he literally ghosts me man.

So yeah Father's Day sux!!

#23 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-16 05:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#23 | Posted by truthhurts

Witty

#24 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2024-06-16 05:44 PM | Reply

My dad would have hated that joke

#25 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-16 05:55 PM | Reply

We may not all have good fathers, but we still have juneteenth to celebrate instead.

#26 | Posted by look_inward at 2024-06-16 06:36 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

My Dad has late-stage Parkinson's which came for him with dementia to the point where he doesn't remember anybody. I haven't seen him in almost a year, since his wife moved him to assisted living in a community about a five-hour drive from us. My wife and I will drive up in late July to see him one last time. He was a crap father, cheating on my mom with a series of women, abusive to me before I took up weight lifting and put him on his ass the last time he tried to get physical. He walked out on my mom and me when I was 18. He tried to mend fences when I was in college, but I wasn't that interested. Now before you think too harshly of me, my mom has mid-stage Alzheimer's and is in assisted living also. I drive to see her weekly. Sadly she's getting to a point where she doesn't always remember me. But if I am going to spend time with a parent, it's going to be my mom, who is my hero.

#27 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2024-06-16 07:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I appreciate the non-partisan thread. My dads been gone about a decade. He was a good guy. I still miss him. and I think about him every time I have to make a major decision. What would dad do? Every family is different, but in general, fathers are important in a kid's life.

#28 | Posted by cbob at 2024-06-16 09:40 PM | Reply

Trump let loose with an unhinged post, never mentioning his kids:

Truth Social: "HAPPY FATHER'S DAY TO ALL, INCLUDING THE RADICAL LEFT DEGENERATES THAT ARE RAPIDLY BRINGING THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA INTO THIRD WORLD NATION STATUS WITH THEIR MANY ATTEMPTS AT TRYING TO INFLUENCE OUR SACRED COURT SYSTEM INTO BREAKING TO THEIR VERY SICK AND DANGEROUS WILL."

I mean Trump's like the anti-Norman Rockwell version of a father whose mind is gone.

#29 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2024-06-17 12:06 AM | Reply

whose mind is gone.

It does seem like the cheese is slipping off the cracker. That said, he must be dictating these rants, no?

#30 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-06-17 12:10 AM | Reply