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Thursday, October 17, 2024

Prescreened question asked at Trump's dancehall gathering: "Like my fellow Americans," the woman said, "my grocery bill has not gone down. Everything is still so very expensive. What steps will your administration take to help American families suffering from this inflation?" Trump's answer? Hold onto your hats, folks.

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"So, you know, it's such a great question in the sense that people don't think of grocery. You know, it sounds like not such an important word when you talk about homes and everything else, right? But more people tell me about grocery bills, where the price of bacon, the price of lettuce, the price of tomatoes, they tell me. [1] And we're going to do a lot of things. You know, our farmers aren't being treated properly. And we had a deal with China, and it was a great deal " I never mentioned it because once covid came in, I said, that was a bridge too far because I had a great relationship with President Xi [Jinping]. And he's a fierce man and he's a man that likes China and I understand that. But we had a deal and he was perfect on that deal, $50 billion he was going to buy. [2] We were doing numbers like you wouldn't believe, for the farmer. But the farmers are very badly hurt. The farmers in this country, we're going to get them straightened out. We're going to get your prices down. "But you asked another question about safety and also about Black population jobs and Hispanic population in particular those two. [3] So when millions of people pour into our country, they're having a devastating effect on Black families and Hispanic families more than any others. [4] I think it's going to spread to a lot of other places."

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Uh, where were we, lessee ... oh, here:

"I think it's going to spread to unions. I think unions are going to have a big problem because, you know, employers are just not going to pay the price. They're going to " and it's going to be " it's a very bad thing that's happening. So they're coming in. Many are coming in from jails and prisons and mental institutions, insane asylums. [5] That's like, you know, step above, right? Insane asylum. And whenever I go, Hannibal Lecter, you know what I'm talking about. They always go " the fake news. That's a lot of fake news back there, too." [Boos from the audience.]|They always mention " you know, it's a way of demeaning, they say, Hannibal Lecter, why would he mention?' [6] Well, you know why, because he was a sick puppy, and we have sick puppies coming into our country. I figured that's a lot " that's better than wasting a lot of words. You just say, Hannibal Lecter. We don't want him.' But. But they always sort of say, Why would he say that?' I do it for a lot of reasons. But I do it because we are allowing some very bad people into our country. And they're coming as terrorists. You know, you saw the other day, last month they had the record number of terrorists. [7] I had a month " and I love Border Patrol. Did you see they gave me a full endorsement two days ago? Border Patrol. [8]. The Border Patrol. And they're great. And, you know, they want to do their job. They don't want to let these people come in. They look at them. They can tell. They can look at somebody, say good, bad. They say what's coming into our country now, it's having a huge negative impact on Black families and on Hispanic families and ultimately on everybody. And we're going to close that border so tight. It's going to be closed. And I said the two things I'm going to do, first, we're going to close that border [9] and people are going to come in. You want people to come in. We need people to come in. People are going to come into our country legally.

#1 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2024-10-16 12:21 PM | Reply

He had more to say on the subject of groceries and inflation:

You know, it's so unfair. You have people that are waiting on a system, in a line and they've been waiting in this line. You know how long? For years, 10 years, 12 years and they study and they take tests. And then people come. I actually say, Why don't you just go and just come on across?' I tell people that it's terrible, right? I said, Go out. You're incredible.' They say, What can I do to speed up the process?' I say, You know what, go to the southern border. I'll see you on the other side.' It's so unfair. [10]. But we're going to have them come in legally. You have to see what they have to do. They take tests on, you know, who was the first one here? What date was this? What does 1776 mean? All this stuff. And these other people are coming in and they're affecting the school systems and they're affecting the hospital system. I mean, if you take a look at what's going on in Springfield, Ohio, a town of 50,000 people, they've just added 32,000 people. Illegal immigrants. [11] And we're not going to put up with it. And we're going to take care of your costs are going to come down, and you're not going to have a problem with " because the biggest problem, and I'm hearing it from Black people and to a lesser extent right now, but it'll be the same, Hispanic people.
"And I'll tell you what, our poll numbers have gone through the roof. With Black and Hispanic, have gone through the roof. [12] And I like that. I like that. I like that. So we're going to take care of it. You will be " I'll tell you, if everything works out, if everybody gets out and votes on January 5th. [13] Or before. You know, it used to be, you'd have a date. Today, you can vote two months before, probably three months after. They don't know what the hell they're doing. But we're going to straighten it all out. We're going to straighten that out. We're going to straighten our election process out, too. That's going to be important, also. So thank you very much, darling. We're going to get it straight. Thank you."

There you have it, in a nutshell, Donald Trump's "concepts of a plan" for dealing with inflation.

#2 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2024-10-16 12:24 PM | Reply

Courtesy of the WaPo, footnotes that attempt to introduce some measure of reality into Trump's absurd response.

Footnotes
[1] The Wall Street Journal recently conducted a survey of economists. Overwhelmingly, they indicated that Trump's stated economic policies " heavy on tariffs that would raise the cost of goods for Americans " would be inflationary.
[2] Trump's former national security adviser John Bolton claimed that Trump had pushed the Chinese president to buy goods from American farmers specifically to boost his reelection bid. In part thanks to the pandemic, the purchases stipulated in the deal were not made.
[3] She did not ask this question.
[4] Black and Hispanic unemployment hit record lows during the Biden administration.
[5] These comments about prisons and insane asylums are years-old rhetoric from Trump that is not substantiated.
[6] Here's the answer to the very good question of why Trump keeps talking about 1990s movie character Hannibal Lecter.
[7] Like many on the right, Trump opportunistically conflates being on the Terrorist Screening Dataset with being a terrorist. While apprehensions of people on that watch list between border checkpoints are up, more people on the watch list were stopped at the southwest border in 2019, under Trump, than at any point in Joe Biden's presidency.
[8] The union of Border Patrol agents endorsed Trump, not the government agency.
[9] Trump was probably going to refer to his "dictator on day one" pledge of addressing the border and drilling for oil, if he hadn't gotten sidetracked.
[10] This comment about going to the southern border is not good advice, unless the people Trump knows have viable reasons to seek asylum in the United States.
[11] The number of immigrants from Haiti presented by Trump is exaggerated. More important, they are in the country legally.
[12] Trump's poll numbers with Black and Hispanic voters are better than the support he saw in 2020, but he is still losing with both groups.
[13] Election Day is Nov. 5.

#3 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2024-10-16 12:26 PM | Reply

From the sub-summary...

... "So, you know, it's such a great question in the sense that people don't think of grocery. You know, it sounds like not such an important word when you talk about homes and everything else, right? But more people tell me about grocery bills, where the price of bacon, the price of lettuce, the price of tomatoes, they tell me. [1] And we're going to do a lot of things. You know, our farmers aren't being treated properly. And we had a deal with China, and it was a great deal " I never mentioned it because once covid came in, I said, that was a bridge too far because I had a great relationship with President Xi [Jinping]. And he's a fierce man and he's a man that likes China and I understand that. But we had a deal and he was perfect on that deal, $50 billion he was going to buy. [2] We were doing numbers like you wouldn't believe, for the farmer. But the farmers are very badly hurt. The farmers in this country, we're going to get them straightened out. We're going to get your prices down. "But you asked another question about safety and also about Black population jobs and Hispanic population in particular those two. [3] So when millions of people pour into our country, they're having a devastating effect on Black families and Hispanic families more than any others. [4] I think it's going to spread to a lot of other places." ...

So... fmr Pres Trump just rambles on and on and on, incoherently?, and does not seem to answer the question.

#4 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-16 12:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

...just rambles on and on and on, incoherently?, and does not seem to answer the question.

AKA "The Weave", and it's brilliant.

#5 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-10-16 12:38 PM | Reply | Funny: 3

This is what a boolsheeter gone senile sounds like. He just can't stop and he sounds so obviously nuts it's not surprising he can't close the deal.

#6 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2024-10-16 12:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

I see his diarrhea is using his upper orifice just as it does his lower.

He needs a mouth diaper!

#7 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-16 01:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Funny how with Lewzer it's a "weave" but with Kamala it's a "word salad". What's the (D)ifference?

#8 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-10-16 01:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

I'm sorry, but anyone that votes Trump for a third time should lose their right to vote.

You've gotten three chances to not be suckered by this idiot and you were too stupid to not vote for him? You're done.

#9 | Posted by jpw at 2024-10-16 01:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

Apply #9 to both parties and we might actually get somewhere.

Wouldn't it be nice if everyone either didn't vote, or wrote in themselves or random candidates.

What would the news cycle sound like the next day? Would the RNC and DNC get a wake up call?

But instead we'll get Trump or Kamala... and four years from now they'll trot out more choices that are just as unappealing as what we have now.

#10 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2024-10-16 01:58 PM | Reply

If Trump loses then it is unlikely the Republican Party will put up a viable candidate next time... they will be lucky if they still exit.

If he wins, then there won't be a next time according to him.

#11 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-16 02:01 PM | Reply

What would the news cycle sound like the next day?

It would be something like "HoR appoints Lewzer president.".

#12 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-10-16 02:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

But wait...don't forget the double giraffe handy j

via GIPHY

#13 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-10-17 12:21 PM | Reply | Funny: 5

He's practicing for the jobs he will be doing in prison.

#14 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-10-17 12:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

How the hell are these two our only choices?

#15 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2024-10-17 12:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

How the hell are these two our only choices?

#15 | Posted by kwrx25

How the hell are people acting like it's a tough choice between a sane democrat and a psychopathic russian puppet?

#16 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-10-17 01:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

He's practicing for the jobs he will be doing in prison.

#14 | Posted by truthhurts

Nah he'd be well protected by the aryan brotherhood.

#17 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-10-17 01:42 PM | Reply

#16 Can you really not parse those words properly.

I didn't say that it's clear that one is better than the other.

Now, choose... I'm going to crush your skull with an anvil slowly... or I'm going to shoot you in the forehead with a large caliber gun.

How do you feel about those choices?

#18 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2024-10-17 02:21 PM | Reply

Now, choose... I'm going to crush your skull with an anvil slowly... or I'm going to shoot you in the forehead with a large caliber gun.

How do you feel about those choices?

#18 | Posted by kwrx25

Well they both result in equal death.

Harris and trump do not result in equal outcomes. The one with the obvious better outcome is the one who isn't a russian puppet and didn't a attempt a coup.

It's more like choosing between catching a cold and catching aids. Tough choice?

#19 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-10-17 02:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

The willingness to accept the tripe the two parties is feeding us is just astounding

#20 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2024-10-17 02:29 PM | Reply

The willingness to accept the tripe the two parties is feeding us is just astounding

#20 | Posted by kwrx25

The willingness to accept russian propaganda about how both parties are equally bad is mindblowing.

#21 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-10-17 03:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

How do you feel about those choices?

#18 | Posted by kwrx25

Alex, What is an "irrelevant deflection"?

#22 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2024-10-17 03:48 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

How the hell are people acting like it's a tough choice between a sane democrat and a psychopathic russian puppet?

How the hell are people acting like it's a tough choice between a sane, intelligent, compassionate democrat and a sundowning, pants crapping, adderall snorting, psychopathic russian puppet rapist who is responsible for the death of hundreds of thousands of Americans and oversaw the only other net loss of jobs other than Herbert Hoover?

#23 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-10-17 03:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It's apparently because the Media has been taken over by huge outlets who's bottom line is money, not democracy.

And because the Trump strategery of filling the alt media space with total disinformation, conspiracies, and assorted lies, he has successfully conned his Base into believing anything he says.

#24 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-17 03:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Man, that truly hurt my brain to try and follow all that....weave.

His brain appears to be permanently on Ramble Mode.
Should play well with concerned world leaders trying to parse
some meaning from his utterances. It might lead to them having to
hire 'interpreters' trying to tear apart his long run on paragraphs,
trying to get to some actual meaning. Headaches all around.

Or. Or... We could just elect Kamala, and shove this rambling
monstrosity of a man into a nice padded cell where he belongs.

#25 | Posted by earthmuse at 2024-10-18 06:57 AM | Reply

just rambles on and on and on, incoherently?, and does not seem to answer the question.

Well to answer the question, he'd have to have a policy to fix the problem.

He doesn't.

Because he doesn't care about grocery prices.

Because he doesn't care about anyone but himself.

He is only running to stay out of prison.

Period.

#26 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-10-18 09:36 AM | Reply

I dare any Trump voter to read the article, read his word salad non-answer and the extensive fact-checking, THEN COME BACK HERE AND SAY HE SHOULD BE PRESIDENT.

#27 | Posted by e1g1 at 2024-10-18 10:51 AM | Reply

If Trump is such a dangerous threat to America and the world, why did the Democrats choose (and now demand everyone support) such a weak candidate to try and defeat him? It's like choosing and then rallying behind a Jawa to go fight and defeat Emperor Palpatine,

The answer is because the Democrats are completely controlled by empire managers and billionaires who are the one that create, fashion and then launch the narrative.

It's easy to pinpoint the true enemies of America. Focus on the singular issue which unites both the Republicans and the Democrats in this day and age (its quite easy to spot), follow the money, and then go straight to the top.

Those are your true masters. All else is theater.

#28 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2024-10-18 11:41 AM | Reply

Apply #9 to both parties and we might actually get somewhere.

Wouldn't it be nice if everyone either didn't vote, or wrote in themselves or random candidates.

What would the news cycle sound like the next day? Would the RNC and DNC get a wake up call?

But instead we'll get Trump or Kamala... and four years from now they'll trot out more choices that are just as unappealing as what we have now.

#10 | Posted by kwrx25

Russians and morons still pretending that a woman who didn't attempt a coup is the same as the russian puppet who did.

#29 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-10-18 12:35 PM | Reply

If Trump is such a dangerous threat to America and the world
#28 | Posted by NerfHerder

if trump is NOT such a dangerous threat to america and the world, why did he attempt a fascist coup?

#30 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-10-18 12:36 PM | Reply

Funny how with Lewzer it's a "weave" but with Kamala it's a "word salad". What's the (D)ifference?

Posted by REDIAL at 2024-10-16 01:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

It's baser than that.... it's because she's a woman and a black woman to boot.

#31 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-10-18 01:02 PM | Reply

it's because she's a woman

Dinger says that has nothing to do with it.

#32 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-10-18 01:05 PM | Reply

@#10 ... Wouldn't it be nice if everyone either didn't vote, or wrote in themselves or random candidates. ...

Wait, what?

Encouraging people not to vote, or to vote for themselves or a random person?

What's your goal here?

#33 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-18 08:16 PM | Reply

I guess he can't quite drag his pathetic ass around to tell people to vote for Jill Stein. Cause that would be retarded.

#34 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-10-18 10:33 PM | Reply

Trump's plan to reduce your grocery bill is simple. ~~ Eat less!

#35 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-10-19 02:22 AM | Reply

He's making enough word salad to feed a small nation

#36 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-10-19 08:48 AM | Reply

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