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Tuesday, December 03, 2024

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) is the first person to hit a million followers on the social platform Bluesky, according to the platform.

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That's so cool.

Here's an agenda most Dems and a lot of swing voters could agree upon:

"A path to citizenship for millions of immigrants"
"Appoint Supreme Court justices who will get money out of politics and expand voting rights"
"If necessary," a "constitutional amendment to overturn Citizens United"
"The minimum wage should be a living wage"
"The right to affordable health care"
"Say no to unfair trade deals"
"Expand Social Security"
"Protect a woman's right to make her own health care decisions"
"Equal pay" (for women)
"Pass the biggest investment in new, good-paying jobs since World War II" and "invest in infrastructure"
"Make college tuition free for the middle class and debt-free for all."
"Wall Street, corporations, and the superrich are going to start paying their fair share of taxes."
"Pass commonsense [gun] reforms and keep guns out of the hands of criminals"
"Put ourselves in the shoes of young black and Latino men and women who face the effects of systemic racism"
"Reform our criminal justice system from end to end"
"Defend all our rights " civil rights, human rights and voting rights, women's rights and workers' rights, LGBT rights, and the rights of people with disabilities"

This is not a moderate agenda."

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2024-12-03 05:58 PM | Reply

#1 | Posted by Corky

That's a winning agenda, except the EQUAL PAY FOR WOMEN part. Women get paid less because of the jobs they take. And this WOMEN VS THE PATRIARCHY stuff is why young men are moving to the right. We need to bring men back in to the party and stop telling them they're the problem.

And the minimum wage part isn't quite thought out. A teenager working a summer job at an ice cream shop doesn't need enough money to rent an apartment and support a child.

#2 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-12-03 06:37 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

www.vox.com

#3 | Posted by Corky at 2024-12-03 07:03 PM | Reply

www.vox.com

#3 | Posted by Corky

The message is weakened when it comes from the wife of a sellout democrat who deregulated wall street and helped the banks crash the economy.

#4 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-12-03 08:18 PM | Reply

The message is weak from almost any politician if you look at it that way, as almost all are somewhat compromised by the system.

The point is that her policies were much better for America than the Trumper's; they weren't conservative at all, hardly moderate, mostly progressive and or left leaning.

They don't have to be perfect, they only have to be better. Until there is campaign finance reform and the oligarchs don't own the Politian and the Media; as long as money is speech and it talks... there will be no representation in Gov for the People who created it, only for the people who bribe the politicians.

#5 | Posted by Corky at 2024-12-03 08:41 PM | Reply

"Women get paid less because of the jobs they take. "

You mean, the jobs men allow them to take.

You're a ------- idiot.

#6 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-12-04 01:12 AM | Reply

stop it.

what percentage of that number are there just in hopes that she's in a cold room.....

and it's "-----".

#7 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-12-04 07:46 AM | Reply

"Women get paid less because of the jobs they take. "

Equal pay for the same job, why should a male broker get paid more than a female?
It still occurs, particularly with specialists in health care.

#8 | Posted by mattm at 2024-12-04 09:02 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Well, looks like the Xitter replacement is decided.

Just signed up for Bluesky, and followed AOC. I hope she runs in 2028 (I mean, assuming we even get an election), I'd love to be able to vote for somebody who's at least on the center-left for once, I'm sick of the center-right and right wing garbage the Democratic Party keeps pushing at us.

It's well past time to stop appeasing the neo-nazis. Kamala was a fool for trying to get Rethuglican votes.

#9 | Posted by DarkVader at 2024-12-04 11:22 AM | Reply

#2

F**k you. A teenager working a summer job at an ice cream shop should be able to pay for college.

And before you say something else stupid, my father did that, a minimum wage job in the 1950s would EASILY more than pay for an entire year of tuition at a state university.

#10 | Posted by DarkVader at 2024-12-04 11:25 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Women get paid less because of the jobs they take. "

What utter patriarchial --------.

#11 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-12-04 12:23 PM | Reply

"Women get paid less because of the jobs they take. "

You mean, the jobs men allow them to take.

You're a ------- idiot.

#6 | Posted by LegallyYourDead

What high paying job is a woman not allowed to take?

I'm telling you now - the women vs men ---- is a loser for dems. Abandon it or keep losing.

#12 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-12-04 12:54 PM | Reply

F**k you. A teenager working a summer job at an ice cream shop should be able to pay for college.

And before you say something else stupid, my father did that, a minimum wage job in the 1950s would EASILY more than pay for an entire year of tuition at a state university.

#10 | Posted by DarkVader

Cool enjoy your $20 scoop of ice cream.

#13 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-12-04 12:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Cool enjoy your $20 scoop of ice cream.

#13 | Posted by SpeakSoftly

Facts: A lot of places pay $18 an hour and the cost difference in the food is negligible.

25 cents more, not $20.

#14 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-12-04 02:43 PM | Reply

#1,

It seems you Progressives/Democrats havent learned a thing from the ass kicking you got in Nov.

But you keep on with this. And keep losing.

#15 | Posted by boaz at 2024-12-05 09:39 AM | Reply

I mean, really Corky,

Look at what you put in #1,

And I'll just choose one reason you people lost.

Nothing in there about inflation, groceries or making gas or other things cost less.

You only had social issues in there. That's why you lost.

Learn something. Really.

#16 | Posted by boaz at 2024-12-05 09:41 AM | Reply

"A path to citizenship for millions of immigrants"

The path is already there. It just takes time. A losing thing for you liberals to run on.

"The minimum wage should be a living wage"

Another losing topic. No one believes the minimum wage should be a "living wage", no matter what progressive "polls" tell you. What you really need to deal with is why so many progressives have a minimum "skills" problem.

"Make college tuition free for the middle class and debt-free for all."

More and more a losing topic. Where is this money supposed to come from again?

"Put ourselves in the shoes of young black and Latino men and women who face the effects of systemic racism"

As more and more blacks and latino's prosper, this becomes a bigger and bigger -------- argument. More and more 1st generation Latino's are coming to this nation legally, starting businesses and prospering. That's why Trump won more of them than ever. And blacks are slowly waking up to identity and racial politics as being the -------- it really is.

"Equal pay" (for women)

Another -------- argument. Women already get paid equal, it just depends on what jobs they take.

This is not a moderate agenda."

No, it's a losing agenda. The 1960's would like their policies back..

But you keep on pushing this. The American people can see through it.

#17 | Posted by boaz at 2024-12-05 09:49 AM | Reply

"Wall Street, corporations, and the superrich are going to start paying their fair share of taxes."

I forgot about this gem.

How about a flat tax? The progressive system of soaking Americans just because their income is higher is a failure from the start.

I think you better remember why we had the tea party in the first place.

You keep talking about "fair". The only "fair" I see is when everyone is taxed the same percentage of income. Period. Full stop.

All you see is money you arent earning and trying to get your hands on.

That's why you as a party and an ideology are failing.

#18 | Posted by boaz at 2024-12-05 09:51 AM | Reply

Nothing in there about inflation, groceries or making gas or other things cost less.

You only had social issues in there. That's why you lost.

Learn something. Really.

#16 | POSTED BY BOAZ

And you think Trumpy is gonna reduce inflation reduce the prices of groceries and gas and make "things" cost less?

You are about to learn "something". But it will be too late to do anything about it.

Really.

#19 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-12-05 09:52 AM | Reply

The flat tax is a regressive tax on the poor. We've been over this before many times Boaz. Oh and which tea party are you referring to. The first one or the second one??

#20 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-12-05 09:57 AM | Reply

"How about a flat tax? The progressive system of soaking Americans just because their income is higher is a failure from the start."

Total BS as usual, of course.

How about you are getting whatever Trumpy decides you are getting.

Which looks like tariffs. A regressive form of taxation that will hurt the American middle class and the poor and will roll off the back of the wealthy like water on a duck.

You keep talking crap and you voted for crap you are gonna get exactly that.

Crap. So. Enjoy your crap!

#21 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-12-05 09:59 AM | Reply

Nah, Donner,

I go by results, and when Trump was President before, I, as an individual, did very well.

And all of you liberals doom and gloom predictions and Karma, lol, I find it very funny, wishing and hoping Trump does bad. Sort of childish if you ask me.

Trump is a performance person. He hires the best who have performed in the past.

Liberals/Democrats hire DEI, which is why mostly they fail.

Those days are over.

#22 | Posted by boaz at 2024-12-05 10:13 AM | Reply

-Here's an agenda most Dems and a lot of swing voters could agree upon:

That list is a common list of items that traditionally poll well.....but they don't ever matter on election day.

and it's not true that most dems want all those things.

they'll always pander to their base by dangling these issues but they'll cave when the time comes. I'm saying most dems will cave. Maybe not AOC or Bernie Sanders....but most dems will cave.

It's not an attack...it's not even a complaint.

It's just reality.

And the last election is evidence of that......all those issues poll well....and then we have an election....and everyone scratches their head.

there is a difference between polling on an issue and how candidates who embrace those issues perform on election day.

which is why most dems (who manage to keep getting elected) cave on those issues on game day......

#23 | Posted by eberly at 2024-12-05 10:38 AM | Reply

-And before you say something else stupid, my father did that, a minimum wage job in the 1950s would EASILY more than pay for an entire year of tuition at a state university.

and how do you think he managed that?

Because the minimum wage so high or because the tuition at the state university was really really low?

I think you know the answer to that.

and there is no way to ensure a minimum wage worker can afford college by any means other than to make the education virtually free. Not by increasing the minimum wage. I'm not against raising the minimum wage and there are good arguments to do so...but making a state university affordable is not the goal of raising the minimum wage.

#24 | Posted by eberly at 2024-12-05 10:46 AM | Reply

"I find it very funny, wishing and hoping Trump does bad."

You are confusing "wishing and hoping" for fear and dread.

"Liberals/Democrats hire DEI, which is why mostly they fail."

Believing in diversity and equal rights is not why democrats failed.

Your simplistic view of the world is why republicans will fail.

Once Again.

...

Those days are over.

#22 | POSTED BY BOAZ

lol. Now you funny too!

Republicans won an election. Not a free pass to do anything they want.

Congratulations. Now you have to actually govern a divided nation.

Americans will be the judge of how well Republicans manage that in another election in 2 years.

So ... It's never over.

#25 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-12-05 10:47 AM | Reply

and how do you think he managed that?

Because the minimum wage so high or because the tuition at the state university was really really low?

I think you know the answer to that.

Can both issues (wages and the cost of education) be addressed at the same time?

I think you know the answer to that.

The cost of living (food clothing housing and medical care) is a tougher nut to crack.

#26 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-12-05 10:54 AM | Reply

-Can both issues (wages and the cost of education) be addressed at the same time?

not if you're going to treat them like they're the same.

they're mutually exclusive issues. don't combine them as though one is a solution for the other.

higher education has hammered the costs in all states. higher education is a challenge to afford everywhere including where the minimum wage is significantly higher.

Again, the issues are great issues to address....just don't conflate them together unless you want to get nowhere.

#27 | Posted by eberly at 2024-12-05 10:59 AM | Reply

Did Boaz take a lucidity pill today?

#28 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2024-12-05 02:39 PM | Reply

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