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According to The New York Times, the accidental shooting occurred when [Dr. Janette] Nesheiwat was 13 years old.

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In her upcoming memoir, President-elect Trump's pick for surgeon general, Dr. Janette Nesheiwat, recounts her fathers accidental death and how the tragedy shaped her journey to become a physician.

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-- The New York Times (@nytimes.com) December 6, 2024 at 5:42 PM

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Dr. Janette Nesheiwat, President-elect Donald Trump's nominee for U.S. Surgeon General, shot and killed her father when she was a teenager.

She's definitely NRA approved.

#1 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-12-08 01:53 PM | Reply

Donald is picking these crippled, pathetic, compromised figures for positions of power deliberately.

He wants people he can feel superior to and control; he wants to punish the United States for not making him king already.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2024-12-08 01:54 PM | Reply

".380 caliber handgun fell out of the box and discharged and shot him in the head"

Happens all the time.

#3 | Posted by Zed at 2024-12-08 01:55 PM | Reply

fell out of the box and discharged

I thought guns didn't kill? Must have been a faulty firearm.

#4 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-12-08 02:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

~It was an accident. The gun fell out of the box and happened to be pointed at his head when it went off as it hit the floor.~

#5 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-12-08 08:29 PM | Reply

We'd be ahead of the game if the teen Ivanka had done the same.

#6 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2024-12-08 10:34 PM | Reply

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Lyrics excerpt...

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...
[Verse 1]
Fumbling his confidence
And wondering why the world has passed him by
Hoping that he's bent for more than arguments
And failed attempts to fly, fly

[Chorus]
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Have we lost ourselves?
Somewhere we live inside
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#7 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-12-09 12:45 AM | Reply

Sounds like suicide to me. He treated his gun like a toy and it bit him in the ass.

#8 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2024-12-09 08:06 AM | Reply

Ok. So we have a likely murderer nominated for Surgeon General. Awesome.

#9 | Posted by jpw at 2024-12-09 08:38 AM | Reply

#4
Guns don't kill, bullets kill. Guns just make the bullets go really, really fast.

#10 | Posted by Charliecharles at 2024-12-09 08:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#4
Guns don't kill, bullets kill. Guns just make the bullets go really, really fast.

#11 | Posted by Charliecharles at 2024-12-09 08:07 PM | Reply

Ok. So we have a likely murderer nominated for Surgeon General. Awesome.

#9 | Posted by jpw at 2024-12-09 08:38 AM | Reply | Flag:

Not only are you a moron, you don't read either.

"Investigators determined that her father's .380 caliber handgun fell out of the box and discharged and shot him in the head. The coroner ruled his death an "accidental shooting."

#12 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-12-10 07:00 PM | Reply

Just like Ivana "accidentally" threw herself down the stairs.

#13 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-12-10 07:07 PM | Reply

"her father's .380 caliber handgun fell out of the box and discharged and shot him in the head."

Guns kill people.

#14 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-12-10 07:22 PM | Reply

Guns kill people.

"I told you I never pulled the trigger!"

~ A. Baldwin

#15 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-12-10 07:29 PM | Reply

"her father's .380 caliber handgun fell out of the box and discharged and shot him in the head."

Guns kill people.

#14 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-12-10 07:22 PM | Reply | Flag:

Fathers shower with their preteen daughters.... right?

#16 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-12-10 09:41 PM | Reply

Nah, just pedos.

#17 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-12-10 09:43 PM | Reply

This lady will be carefully vetted but presents two compelling reasons for her approval. Senators will be examining her closely ...

#18 | Posted by catdog at 2024-12-10 09:43 PM | Reply

My first thought was that it was very cruel and exploitive of the Orlando Sentinel to unearth what should have been a confidential juvenile report and put her on blast for a tragic childhood incident that wasn't her fault. But I went down the rabbit hole anyway, and some things jumped out at me:

She was trying to get scissors from a tackle box on a shelf over the bed in "Father's room". The gun fell out and landed on the floor, shooting her father in the head.

1) Identifying as "Father" signals an impersonal, authoritarian relationship. Then again he is Jordanian, it could be cultural.
2) Where was "Mother"? Dis she sleep in "Father's Room"? Apparently she was a night shift nurse.
3) So what was a 13 year old doing in "Fathers Room"? At 7:15 on a Saturday? Crafting? Most teenagers don't rise at dawn on weekends. Even Dad was still in bed.
4) Tackle boxes contain smelly bits of rotten bait stuck to lures and whatnot, Kept on a shelf over the bed? Ew. But maybe they don't use it for tackle, just scissors and guns?
5) The gun fell to the floor, yet the bullet followed a trajectory into his head on the bed. I'd need to see the evidence, but the responding officer had trouble making sense of the "mechanics of the shooting". "

So I'm sure there are plausible explanations for all of these things, but I can't help but wonder if there was more to it. Like child molestation. In which case it still wasn't her fault. Self defense.

#19 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-12-11 12:44 AM | Reply

@#19 ... My first thought was ...

My first thought was...

Why was that loaded gun so apparently accessible?

Why was not the gun locked up in a more secure place?


OK, wait, the Florida law seems to have issues with unsecured guns only after a child has attained access.

So, reactive, not preventative?

2024 Gun Law Checklist
everytownresearch.org

...
Secure Storage or Child Access Prevention Required

Requires that firearms be stored locked, unloaded, and separate from ammunition in certain circumstances

When does the law apply?
- - After child gains access

How does the state define child?
- - Under 16

Does the state law require storage to prevent access by other prohibited people?
- - No
...



#20 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-12-11 01:05 AM | Reply

@#20

To be specific,

That excerpt was from the "Gun Laws in Florida" part of that website.


#21 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-12-11 01:09 AM | Reply

#20 Reactive not Preventatve? To the primary source we go

www.flsenate.gov

Florida statutes are generally structured this way, the first part is the legal framework of the law or offense, and the second part defines the criminal classification and penalty.

So the law clearly REQUIRES safe storage of firearms from minors but it is a civil offense with no criminal consequences unless a child actually gains access.

The codification of a civil offense isn't meaningless. It provides a backstop for more restrictive local ordinances that may be enacted with fines or other civil penalties. It helps in civil matters such as lawsuits or custody matters and gives officers leverage to resolve disputes and persuaded compliance. It is not a perfect law, but better than the 26 states without statutes. Trigger locks are provided with gun purchases and given out by police.

FS 790.014
(1)A person who stores or leaves, on a premise under his or her control, a loaded firearm, as defined in s. 790.001, and who knows or reasonably should know that a minor is likely to gain access to the firearm without the lawful permission of the minor's parent or the person having charge of the minor, or without the supervision required by law, shall keep the firearm in a securely locked box or container or in a location which a reasonable person would believe to be secure or shall secure it with a trigger lock, except when the person is carrying the firearm on his or her body or within such close proximity thereto that he or she can retrieve and use it as easily and quickly as if he or she carried it on his or her body.
(2)It is a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083, if a person violates subsection (1) by failing to store or leave a firearm in the required manner and as a result thereof a minor gains access to the firearm, without the lawful permission of the minor's parent or the person having charge of the minor, and possesses or exhibits it, without the supervision required by law:
(a)In a public place; or
(b)In a rude, careless, angry, or threatening manner in violation of s. 790.10.
This subsection does not apply if the minor obtains the firearm as a result of an unlawful entry by any person.

#22 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-12-11 08:47 AM | Reply

Any legislation that restricts storage of firearms in vehicles would be hugely impactful. A large percentage of firearms used in crimes were stolen from parked vehicles. I stopped some kids once that had over 40 guns in the trunk of their car. They got them all from one apartment complex, many of them from unlocked cars.

I think the above statute applies, you should reasonably know that a minor is likely to gain access to an unlocked car. Delete last line and start arresting the owners for that and the supply will dry up real fast.

#23 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-12-11 09:01 AM | Reply

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