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Americans are Less Confident About Where the US Economy is Headed
US consumer confidence tumbled in December from the previous month amid Americans' growing uncertainty over the economic outlook in the year ahead.
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US consumer confidence tumbled in December from the previous month amid Americans' growing uncertainty over the economic outlook in the year ahead. The Conference Board's consumer confidence index declined by 8.1 points in December to 104.7, below the 113.2 expected by economists surveyed by Bloomberg.
The bankruptcy-prone orange turd is just getting started.
#1 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-12-24 04:46 PM | Reply
It's hilarious reading MAGA morons backtrack and try to revise history now that they know prices aren't going down and their life isn't going to improve.
#2 | Posted by jpw at 2024-12-25 12:48 PM | Reply
It's hilarious reading MAGA morons backtrack and try to revise history...
Get ready for 4 hilarious years of that.
#3 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-12-25 01:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2
I'm ready for it. L
First year will be why his broken promises aren't really broken promises.
Then they'll have to move on to explaining away all the corruption and f^*+ ups.
#4 | Posted by jpw at 2024-12-25 04:53 PM | Reply
OK, but seriously, when do Americans ever think the economy is good? Other than when people enter the boomer stage and complain "things aren't as good as they used to be!" and blame young people.
#5 | Posted by horstngraben at 2024-12-25 05:53 PM | Reply
OpEd: An analyst looks ahead to how the US economy might fare under Trump apnews.com
... President-elect Donald Trump won a return to the White House in part by promising big changes in economic policy " more tax cuts, huge tariffs on imports, mass deportations of immigrants working in the United States illegally. In some ways, his victory marked a repudiation of President Joe Biden's economic stewardship and a protest against inflation. It came despite low unemployment and steady growth under the Biden administration. What lies ahead for the economy under Trump? Paul Ashworth of Capital Economics spoke recently to The Associated Press. The interview has been edited for length and clarity. Q: What kind of economy is Trump inheriting? A: It is objectively a strong economy. But that doesn't mean the man in the street agrees. If you look just at the growth numbers, they've been strong, and the unemployment rate's pretty low. But consumer confidence remains muted. Although the inflation rate has come down, the level of prices remains much higher than it used to be. That was obviously weighing on consumer sentiment. Q: What will be the economic priorities for Trump? A: There's a lot to do on fiscal policy in terms of just extending the original Trump tax cuts, which are due to expire at the end of 2025. The debt outlook is approaching 100% of GDP and is on track to be 120% of GDP within another decade. Extending the expiring tax cuts is about avoiding fiscal tightening, not introducing additional stimulus into the economy. We're not convinced we'll see further stimulus. ...
In some ways, his victory marked a repudiation of President Joe Biden's economic stewardship and a protest against inflation. It came despite low unemployment and steady growth under the Biden administration.
What lies ahead for the economy under Trump? Paul Ashworth of Capital Economics spoke recently to The Associated Press. The interview has been edited for length and clarity.
Q: What kind of economy is Trump inheriting?
A: It is objectively a strong economy. But that doesn't mean the man in the street agrees. If you look just at the growth numbers, they've been strong, and the unemployment rate's pretty low. But consumer confidence remains muted. Although the inflation rate has come down, the level of prices remains much higher than it used to be. That was obviously weighing on consumer sentiment.
Q: What will be the economic priorities for Trump?
A: There's a lot to do on fiscal policy in terms of just extending the original Trump tax cuts, which are due to expire at the end of 2025. The debt outlook is approaching 100% of GDP and is on track to be 120% of GDP within another decade. Extending the expiring tax cuts is about avoiding fiscal tightening, not introducing additional stimulus into the economy. We're not convinced we'll see further stimulus. ...
#6 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-12-25 05:54 PM | Reply
@#5 ... when do Americans ever think the economy is good? ...
I guess my first question would be, good by what definition?
Here's one approach...
It's not just vibes. Americans' perception of the economy has completely changed. (June 2024) abcnews.go.com
... To piece this together, we downloaded a collection of economic indicators related to people's experiences of the economy from the St. Louis Federal Reserve " specifically, indicators relating to inflation, interest rates, work and wages, housing, and basic household finances. We then fitted a linear regression model using those indicators to look at how they were related to the University of Michigan Consumer Sentiment Index from 1987 to 2019 (basically, the "Before Times").* This model tracks the Consumer Sentiment Index over that time period pretty closely.** Consumer sentiment as a trendline can be a bit spiky, as big news or economic shocks (such as the collapse of the housing market in 2008) can have dramatic effects that fade fairly quickly as the economy stabilizes. But other than these spikes, our model is fairly consistent at tracking the trends over the 32-year period preceding the pandemic. Applying the same pre-pandemic model to consumer sentiment during and after the pandemic, however, simply does not work. The indicators that correlated with people's feelings about the economy before 2020 no longer seem to matter in the same way. As with so many areas of American life, the pandemic has changed virtually everything about how people think about the economy and the issues that concern them. ... [then there is a good graph, worth viewing...] Before the pandemic, a number of variables were statistically significant indicators for consumer sentiment in our model; in particular, the most salient variables appear to be vehicle sales, gas prices, median household income, the federal funds effective rate, personal savings and household expenditures (excluding food and energy). And some of these indicators have seen dramatic changes over the past four years, likely contributing to the disconnect between the positive economic news and Americans' continued economic pessimism. ...
This model tracks the Consumer Sentiment Index over that time period pretty closely.** Consumer sentiment as a trendline can be a bit spiky, as big news or economic shocks (such as the collapse of the housing market in 2008) can have dramatic effects that fade fairly quickly as the economy stabilizes. But other than these spikes, our model is fairly consistent at tracking the trends over the 32-year period preceding the pandemic.
Applying the same pre-pandemic model to consumer sentiment during and after the pandemic, however, simply does not work. The indicators that correlated with people's feelings about the economy before 2020 no longer seem to matter in the same way. As with so many areas of American life, the pandemic has changed virtually everything about how people think about the economy and the issues that concern them. ...
[then there is a good graph, worth viewing...]
Before the pandemic, a number of variables were statistically significant indicators for consumer sentiment in our model; in particular, the most salient variables appear to be vehicle sales, gas prices, median household income, the federal funds effective rate, personal savings and household expenditures (excluding food and energy). And some of these indicators have seen dramatic changes over the past four years, likely contributing to the disconnect between the positive economic news and Americans' continued economic pessimism. ...
Of course, that is only one view ...
#7 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-12-25 05:59 PM | Reply
Um, who is still President?
#8 | Posted by boaz at 2024-12-26 08:32 AM | Reply
Which rapist orange turd is going to slap tariffs on everything?
#9 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-12-26 08:37 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
This is a problem with many facets. First, consumer sentiment is a primary driver of domestic economic growth and if sentiment is restrained so could be growth in economic activity including hiring, wage growth and spending. Second, if consumers are now tacitly acknowledging that the US economy during the past few years has actually been good, expectations for Trumpian policies could be negative, and that negativity could feed on itself, resulting in a recession. The next 3-4 months will be telling.
Of course, King Dotard II will blame all problems on his predecessor and there will be even more pressure on him to make good on his promises. Fat chance ...
#10 | Posted by catdog at 2024-12-26 08:38 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2
#8 | Posted by boaz at 2
Joe Biden for the next four years, if things go as badly as Donald promises.
#11 | Posted by Zed at 2024-12-26 09:27 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
1) The Donald economy will head south.
2) Donald will lie about that.
3) The economy will continue to head south
4) Donalld will continue to lie about that.
5) The economy will persist in heading south.
6) Donald will suppress information about the economy
7) The economy will produce widespread misery. There will be mass protests.
8) Donald will suppress the protests by force of arms.
9) Everyone will eat sh-- and be instructed to smile about it.
#12 | Posted by Zed at 2024-12-26 09:37 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
"Joe Biden for the next four years, if things go as badly as Donald promises."
Things could go bad even before he gets sworn in.
There is a doomsday scenario brewing.
If the House cannot elect a Speaker before Jan 6th then they cannot certify Trumpy as President.
#13 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-12-26 10:51 AM | Reply
#13 | Posted by donnerboy
I think that has to be the most God-damned funny thing I have ever heard.
#14 | Posted by Zed at 2024-12-26 11:04 AM | Reply
#14 | POSTED BY ZED
It will be even funnier to watch.
It took them 5 days last time and the new Congress won't assemble and vote for a Speaker until Jan 3rd. And the House cannot do anything else or vote on anything else until it elects a new Speaker. And MAGA Mike just ignored His Majesty's command to shut down the government or remove the Debt Ceiling.
So his future looks bleak. And there are no other names even in the hat yet.
#15 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-12-26 11:16 AM | Reply
Gee, who knew elections had consequences? I got all my retirement $$ out of the stock market.
#16 | Posted by morris at 2024-12-26 12:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
I'm going to liquidate some investments for a bit, then will wait and see how long things will stay tanked before buying again
#17 | Posted by hamburglar at 2024-12-26 02:32 PM | Reply
Get ready for "I inherited a mess" PART II from Trump.
And as always with MAGA, you can never win this argument - they'll just say Biden did unrecoverable damage to the economy that their whiz kid Trump can't fix.
Of course, in reality, he's getting a potentially robust economny to grow if he plays his cards right - which he won't because Republicans always wreck the economy and the Dems swoop in to save it. Mark it down.
#18 | Posted by brass30 at 2024-12-26 03:18 PM | Reply
This is one of the major reasons that harris lost.
www.nbcnews.com
#19 | Posted by MSgt at 2024-12-26 04:48 PM | Reply
Funny story. Holiday sales were up which is a sign people feel confident about the future economy. Another thing the left can't accept just like their epic failure in the election. Here is what the left needs take from the last election: Don't run a candidate that is a total moron, and don't run on a four year record that was terrible. They and it were so bad that you lost to Hitler. LOL. Suck it.
#20 | Posted by fishpaw at 2024-12-26 05:43 PM | Reply
A new Gallup poll finds 19% of Americans say they are satisfied with the way things are going in the U.S.
Folks are starting to realize the bankruptcy-prone orange pedo is going to crater the economy again.
#21 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-12-26 08:19 PM | Reply
#21. 19% of Americans think Biden/Harris's policies are crap. Thanks for pointing that out.
#22 | Posted by fishpaw at 2024-12-26 08:34 PM | Reply
Fishpud, Americans know the putrid rapist with a 15% unemployment rate is toxic for the economy.
#23 | Posted by Reinheitsgebot at 2024-12-26 08:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
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