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Wednesday, January 08, 2025

Wildfires raged across Southern California on Wednesday, leaving at least two people dead and prompting thousands of evacuations as blazes closed in on Los Angeles neighborhoods like the Pacific Palisades and residents hurried to escape.

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This is a dire situation.

#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-08 05:57 PM | Reply

Why can't we nuke the fire?

~ Putin's orange bitch ~

#2 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-01-08 05:58 PM | Reply

It's really bad here. I live about 20 miles away from the Palisades fire, and the smoke cloud is visible from my house. The smoke outside is thick. Santa Ana winds fanned the flames all last night. Local news has been covering it closely, but whatever you're seeing outside of Los Angeles County is likely representing a small portion of just how bad it is. The one thing that kept it from being more devastating yesterday is the direction of the winds...towards the ocean.

#3 | Posted by chuffy at 2025-01-08 06:34 PM | Reply

They don't groom the forest, they groom the children.

#4 | Posted by HanoverFist at 2025-01-08 06:35 PM | Reply

Incompetence and corruption is the inalienable Democrat political mission. They live to plunder and to do the least possible. I've recognized those as Democrat culture for many years. It is factual and real.

#5 | Posted by Robson at 2025-01-08 06:47 PM | Reply

#5 | Posted by Robson

There are more Republicans in California than any other state, and some states combined.

Your willful ignorance and disaster politicization are noted.

Swallow it.

#6 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2025-01-08 06:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#4 | Posted by HanoverFist

Why do you bother with this? Republican homes are burning to the ground. And you're talking about grooming. You and your ilk suffer from political tunnel vision. Seek help.

#7 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2025-01-08 07:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump is blaming California Governor Gavin Newscum (as he calls him) for the fire disaster in Los Angeles, claiming that the Governor is responsible for there being low water pressure in the city's fire hydrants. Once again Trump went off on a rant about how Newsom has turned-off a 'giant faucet' preventing water flowing through the state. He also declared that once he's back in the White House, he'll order that that 'faucet' be turned back on and California's water problems will be solved. What Trump failed to mention is that since July, the start of the current rain reporting season, L.A. County has gotten 0.16 inches of rain, when normally by this date, the average rainfall has been 4.56 inches.

OCU

#8 | Posted by OCUser at 2025-01-08 07:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

At last report, there were four fires burning in L.A. County, which while it's not a small county, much of it is developed. As for us here in Irvine (Orange County), the closet fire, the Eaton fire, is 38 miles away (as the crow flies). The other fires in L.A. County are all better then 50 miles away. And the wind is blowing in a direction where we can hardly even see the smoke let alone smell it.

OCU

#9 | Posted by OCUser at 2025-01-08 07:03 PM | Reply

He also declared that once he's back in the White House, he'll order that that 'faucet' be turned back on and California's water problems will be solved.

Excellent. I will put that on my list of things to keep track of. I'm really curious where this "faucet" is located. Do any of the MAGA Lewzer-humpers have any idea?

#10 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-01-08 07:16 PM | Reply

When I want to visit California I fly to Morocco.

#11 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2025-01-08 07:18 PM | Reply

@#8 ... he'll order that that 'faucet' be turned back on and California's water problems will be solved. ...

Did he give any details as to how he will accomplish that feat, or is this just another of his ~Mexico will pay for the wall~ lies that seem to please his base but have little footing in reality?


#12 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-08 07:22 PM | Reply

We've known to prepare for extreme natural disasters for a long time. It's only going to get worse as we continue to dump CO2 into the atmosphere.

And since we're pointing fingers, republicans have obstructed and stonewalled every effort to improve our energy-grid and build resilience to natural disasters for decades.

#13 | Posted by horstngraben at 2025-01-08 07:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#8 | POSTED BY OCUSER

The blame lies up and down the chain.

State stopped prescribed burns...
State mandated insurance policy caps.
1600 homes in PP sent insurance ending past couple of months.
State of California didn't fill the hydrant reservoir.
State of California doesn't manage excessive brush.
The Fire Department deprioritized Fire Fighting, not enough fire fighter.
LAFD cut budget $20Million
Fire fighters out of water.
Equipment shipped to Ukraine.
Homeless population making fires to keep warm.

Cascading Catastrophy.

In an attempt to debunk Rick Caruso, LA morning anchor Melvin Robert is embarrassingly fact-checked by their own on-the-ground reporter:
x.com

And since we're pointing fingers, republicans have obstructed and stonewalled every effort to improve our energy-grid and build resilience to natural disasters for decades.
#13 | POSTED BY HORSTNGRABEN

Not in CA. PGE and Edison have raised rates to astronomical levels to do mitigation, still nothing changed.

#14 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-08 07:40 PM | Reply

As they were saying on tonights news by a person in charge of California fire fighting and the hydrants without water said their main priority is diversity, inclusion and equity. Peoples safety is the least of their priority. LA touted Fire Chief is the first gay woman because in California that is obviously more important than public safety. Biden also sends more money and firefighting eqpt to Ukraine.

The California ruling class needs charged with gross failure and real crimes against humanity instead of treated as DEI saviors. The Democrat pols never give up promotinng their absurd failures.

#15 | Posted by Robson at 2025-01-08 07:41 PM | Reply

I will put that on my list of things to keep track of. I'm really curious where this "faucet" is located.

The State sends trillons of gallons of water to the see.

California's rain bounty slips into the ocean and drought-shocked Central Valley farmers want an explanation
95 percent of the water that collected in the Sacramento-San Joaquin Delta has been flushed out to sea, leaving frustrated farmers with lots of questions.
www.turnto23.com

I swear DialAgain you really don't know how to do a search.

#16 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-08 07:42 PM | Reply

Los Angeles mayor slashed fire department budget months ago. Because, well, fires in CA are so rare.

#17 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2025-01-08 07:51 PM | Reply

@#16 ... The State sends trillons of gallons of water to the see. ...

The article seems to indicate that the tecent trillions of gallons of water is not a routine thing.

So, if California had spent tens of millions of dollars to build reservoirs to pool that non-routine water event, my guess is that your current alias would likely be criticizing California for wasting money.

In a similar situation ...

Decades of groundwater depletion mean hard choices ahead for states (2022)
csgmidwest.org

... On a recent visit to the western Kansas town of Garden City, Burke Griggs asked local leaders a question that may have first sounded like a joke. "Where do you plan on moving Garden City in 50 years?" asked Griggs, a leading expert on water law.

He was deadly serious, though, about a problem that the Washburn School of Law professor says a growing number of communities will face in the coming years and decades without shifts in how the state manages, allocates and conserves its resources, particularly groundwater. ...




#18 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-08 07:55 PM | Reply

In a Drought, California Is Watching Water Wash Out to Sea.
www.nytimes.com

#19 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-08 07:57 PM | Reply

Lets not forget ...

Newsom spent time and energy trying to "Trump-Proofing" California.

Incredible, he showed up to the fire for a photo op.

#20 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-08 08:02 PM | Reply

Eight years after California voters approved a $7.5 billion water bond to construct water storage facilities, not one project has reached completion.
And as I posted, untold Trillions of gallons of fresh snowmelt and rain continue to flow wastefully into the Pacific Ocean.

At least we are Trump proofed.

#21 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-08 08:04 PM | Reply

The hits just keep coming ...

"Apparently L.A. City didn't want to pay for the larger, water-load Fire Hawks that L.A Co Fire operates at the outset of the Palisades fire and didn't call for the heavy water droppers until the fire was out of control. Opted for L.A. City helicopters that aren't as capable of large water drops."
x.com

#22 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-08 08:06 PM | Reply

#20 Newsom was celebrating the birth of Biden's great granddaughter. The fires were just there.

#23 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2025-01-08 08:09 PM | Reply

you really don't know how to do a search.

Sure I do:

Former President Donald Trump suggested there was a "large faucet" up North that could solve all of California's water needs for its cities, its farms and to wet down its forests so they don't burn so fierce. "You have millions of gallons of water pouring down from the north with the snow caps and Canada, and all pouring down and they have essentially a very large faucet," Trump said this month. We call that faucet the Columbia River. "You turn the faucet and it takes one day to turn it, and it's massive, it's as big as the wall of that building right there behind you. You turn that, and all of that water aimlessly goes into the Pacific (Ocean), and if they turned it back, all of that water would come right down here and right into Los Angeles," he said.
Please explain where this "giant faucet" that diverts the Columba River into California is located.

#24 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-01-08 08:14 PM | Reply

I've driven the Columbia River from one end to the other. Right from here to Astoria. I have never seen a giant faucet that would divert the river down through all of Oregon and most of California to LA.

Must be quite the aqueduct, going over all those big hills and all. Maybe Lewzer will put on a big show opening the building sized faucet that takes a day to open. Fireworks maybe?

#25 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-01-08 08:24 PM | Reply

@#19 ... In a Drought, California Is Watching Water Wash Out to Sea. ...

And ... what would be said if California invested in the infrastructure to gather that rare water event?

Would the GOP then say, ~wasting tax payers' dollars?~

If such water events were common and likely, I'd proffer that California would build the infrastructure to harness those events.

But, are those water events likely and common?



#26 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-08 08:26 PM | Reply

" It's really bad here. I live about 20 miles away from the Palisades fire, and the smoke cloud is visible from my house. The smoke outside is thick. Santa Ana winds fanned the flames all last night. Local news has been covering it closely, but whatever you're seeing outside of Los Angeles County is likely representing a small portion of just how bad it is. The one thing that kept it from being more devastating yesterday is the direction of the winds...towards the ocean.
#3 | POSTED BY CHUFFY AT 2025-01-08 06:34 PM | REPLY | FLAG"

Damn. That's scary. Please, stay safe. :

#27 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-08 08:35 PM | Reply

@#21 ... Eight years after California voters approved a $7.5 billion water bond to construct water storage facilities, not one project has reached completion. ...

California Passes Multi-Billion-Dollar Bond to Build a More Resilient Water System (2014)
www.ucsusa.org

... California voters yesterday approved a $7.5 billion water bond (Proposition 1), which will fund expanded water storage, water treatment and recycling projects as well as the restoration of diminished waterways.

The measure was passed during a record drought that has highlighted the weaknesses of California's current water management system and the need to prepare for drier conditions in the future.

A total of $2.7 billion of the bond funds is dedicated to finance new water storage projects such as dams, reservoirs or replenishing groundwater reserves. Over the coming months, the California Water Commission will closely examine scientific evidence and economic factors to determine what types of storage projects provide the greatest "public benefit." ...



--- and ---

Three Years on, How California Is Spending Its $7.5 Billion Water Bond (2017)
deeply.thenewhumanitarian.org

... They found that about 80 percent of the proposition's money has been appropriated, and they broke down the funding in a recent PPIC blog post. ... [good graphic in the article]

In 2014 Californians approved Proposition 1. Ellen Hanak at the Public Policy Institute of California breaks down how much of that $7.5 billion has been appropriated so far and what that means for future water spending.

Three years ago, California voters passed Proposition 1, a bond that provided $7.12 billion for water projects and reallocated another $425 million. The funds had to be split among seven categories: safe drinking water, water storage, flood management, water recycling, drought preparedness, ecosystem and watershed protection and groundwater sustainability.

Ellen Hanak and Jelena Jezdimirovic at the Public Policy Institute of California (PPIC) dove into the numbers to see how the proposition money has been spent throughout the state.

They found that about 80 percent of the proposition's money has been appropriated, and they broke down the funding in a recent PPIC blog post.

(Courtesy of the PPIC)

Water Deeply spoke with Hanak, director of the PPIC Water Policy Center, about the Proposition 1 funding, what it tells us about water projects in California and about legislative priorities in 2018.

Water Deeply: How does this rate of spending compare to past water bond spending?

Ellen Hanak, director of the PPIC Water Policy Center, has been studying the appropriation of money for California's 2014 water bond. (Courtesy of the PPIC)

Ellen Hanak: This is about the typical pace of spending. Sometimes we'd like to see the money get out the door quicker or get frustrated that a bond passes and it doesn't get all spent right away, but there is a whole process within each category to develop the specific details. And then when the calls go out, people have a bit of time to respond, there's a judging process, an awards process and that doesn't all happen overnight. ...


Yeah, I guess my first question would be ... does this Act apply to Los Angeles, or the more northern areas of California?



#28 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-08 08:40 PM | Reply

@OCU,

The Santa Anas are supposed to shift and blow Eastward in a couple of days. I expect around Saturday/Sunday, you'll be getting your first dose of smoke. Here in the South Bay, winds are not very strong, but it smells like campfire and the air is brown.

#29 | Posted by chuffy at 2025-01-08 09:16 PM | Reply

Rick Caruso is a ------- ----. Funny how his piece of ---- development in the Palisades is ------- untouched by the fires.

#23

Graceless the ---- is a ------- ------. Biden and Newsome were in LA in preparation to going east to celebrate Biden protecting more natural habitat that has meaning to the indigenous population. (Look it up, ------)

The ------- idiot fake ----- bastard neglects to say WIND CONDITIONS prevented air support.

You MAGAT ----- have down the wind.

We will make sure you reap the whirlwind

#30 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-01-08 09:31 PM | Reply

Chuffy,
Prayers to you and your family. One of my kids is a mile outside of the evac zone for the Eaton fire, so we are all watching closely. They had 50-60 mph winds last night They are packed and ready to leave at a moments notice, but now there is another fire in the Hollywood Hills threatening their intended destination. There is really no safe direction. Scary stuff.

I'm hearing folks scoff and say this is no different from what we go through in hurricanes. There is no comparison.. In a hurricane you can hunker down in relative safety inside a well built structure. There is no escaping fire when it comes for you.

Please check in and let us know how you are doing.

#31 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2025-01-08 10:11 PM | Reply

You too OCU.

#32 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2025-01-08 10:17 PM | Reply

I'm in the South Bay, if the fire reaches us here, all of Los Angeles is gone...my family is fine.

We're losing some beautiful buildings and landscapes, but if you really cared about me and my family, you'd reject Republicanism and DJT. We've known this was coming for decades, and the fascist right wing has prevented us from making even incremental changes to stave off the predictable effects of climate change.

Join me in rejecting the political Party that stands in the way of our progress on clean and renewable energy.

#33 | Posted by chuffy at 2025-01-08 11:16 PM | Reply

"At last report, there were four fires burning in L.A. County, which while it's not a small county, much of it is developed. As for us here in Irvine (Orange County), the closet fire, the Eaton fire, is 38 miles away (as the crow flies). The other fires in L.A. County are all better then 50 miles away. And the wind is blowing in a direction where we can hardly even see the smoke let alone smell it."

Hey ocuser! I'm your neighbor in Tustin, hah.

#34 | Posted by dibblda at 2025-01-09 12:35 AM | Reply

The local Russians or whatever sure are on a roll tonight about local California water resources, and fires, as if they knew anything about it. I'd suggest that they chill out on a mountain road in the middle of a firestorm and then lecture us about it.

I've hiked the trails behind Pasadena / Altadena many many times. Those mountains get as close as you can to going straight up. No easy way of managing the local landscape. There are plenty of ruins up there from previous attempts to tame the mountains, including a burned out hotel, funicular, rail lines, bridge to knowhere, etc.

#35 | Posted by dibblda at 2025-01-09 12:43 AM | Reply

Please check in and let us know how you are doing.

#31 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2025-01-08 10:11 PM

You too OCU.

#32 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2025-01-08 10:17 PM

We're a good distance from the fires, nearly 40 miles from the closest. And so far the winds have been such that we can't see the smoke let alone smell it. Now our granddaughter lives in Highland Park, which borders South Pasadena, and while they've been okay so far (we talked to her this evening) her school was closed today and will be the rest of the week.

That being said, the wind last night did take down a number of trees in our neighborhood, but were we live, all power-lines are underground so falling trees don't have the same impact as they do in some other places. And at the moment, the wind is down to only four or five mph while overnight it did hit close to 60 mph.

OCU

#36 | Posted by OCUser at 2025-01-09 01:45 AM | Reply

The orange diaper sniper threatens Canada with tariffs and they still send help.

www.cbc.ca

#37 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-01-09 08:11 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#33 Chuffy,
I do care about you and your family. And I do reject DJT and elements of BOTH parties. I believe a multi-party system is essential for balance. I am not a Republican, but I can't "join you" when you post the kind of hyperbolic, over the top rhetoric like this:

Repubicans support, if not enthusiastically cheer, the following, openly:

Rape, sexual assault and men beating up women.
Six year olds getting shot in the face.
Adultery.
Child abuse.
Treason.
Fascism.
White Supremacists.
Religious theocracy.
Anti-science stupidity.

It's a longer list, but all of those things are the core beliefs of Repubicans. They love all of it.

I really don't see the point of piling on to the endless threads here that are filled with that kind of divisive content to prove some sort of fealty. I prefer to stick with factual posts from my area of expertise, and call out false or misleading stories. Disrupting false narratives makes people uncomfortable. Is it more comfortable for you to believe that roughly 50% of Americans support (if not enthusiastically cheer) six year olds getting shot in the face?

So that was my response to your "if you really cared about my family" comment. My work has exposed me to a very diverse population and my concern for other people is not conditional on political beliefs. I sincerely believe that most people are decent and caring, they just disagree on how to make the world a better place. I hope you and your family continue to stay safe. My family members are between the Sunset and Eaton fires and keeping watch. Air quality is terrible, but they are essential workers and can't leave. They feel very fortunate to be safe.

#38 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2025-01-09 12:44 PM | Reply

Has the gibbering dotard floated the idea of giving Leon a huge government contract to develop a CyberRake?

#39 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-01-09 03:07 PM | Reply

MIRANDA7,

None of the things I listed in that post are hyperbolic, and I can provide you with the factual basis for all of them. Almost all of the things I listed in that post can be attributed to the future president and head of the Repubican Party, actually.

Six year olds getting shot in the face? Well, Sandy Hook. I will happily accept your factual post about sensible gun laws that the Repubican Party, and not-liberals in the USA, have passed (or at least, support) that shows that they actually DO care about six year olds getting shot in the face. You can add the viewership and popularity of Infowars as part of that factual post.

We're in the South Bay, like I said, so the air is brown, there's a layer of ash on the porch and we're all currently safe. I see that the leader of the Repubican Party seems to think it's a joke and something about DEI mixed with a childish nickname for our Governor...while fires are burning down homes. Feel free to explain how Repubicans are decent people when they overwhelmingly voted for that guy.

I'm sorry you can't see how climate policy led us here, and you can't bring yourself to reject the group of people that have actively opposed what is necessary to survive on this planet, based on another post of mine. I've never shied away from backing up my posts with facts. #FAFO

#40 | Posted by chuffy at 2025-01-10 12:41 AM | Reply

"Fealty" is an interesting choice of words, by the way.

#41 | Posted by chuffy at 2025-01-10 12:47 AM | Reply

Since nothing can be done to prevent or fight wild fires spread by high winds maybe these homes shouldn't be rebuilt and the land reverted to its natural desert state.

#42 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-01-10 10:42 AM | Reply

#35 | Posted by dibblda at 2025-01-09 12:43 AM | Reply | Flag:

That scrub also actively wants to burn. Chaparral thickets are already dense, dry themselves out through the Summer & Fall, their oils are flammable, the drop their lead leaves into the middle of the thickets very challenging to manage even on flat ground, and they are adapted by millions of years of evolution in a fire plain to burn down the roots and regrow. You either preemptively burn it all every single year, pave over it, or just deal with it when you occasionally burn to the ground near them.

#43 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-01-10 10:55 AM | Reply

i0.wp.com

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#44 | Posted by MSgt at 2025-01-10 12:17 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

A reservoir in the Palisades that holds 117 million gallons of water was offline this month for previously scheduled maintenance. It was empty when the Palisades fire exploded.
www.latimes.com

Bummer.

#45 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-10 01:00 PM | Reply


Since nothing can be done to prevent or fight wild fires spread by high winds maybe these homes shouldn't be rebuilt and the land reverted to its natural desert state.
#42 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

You mean low income housing.

#46 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-10 01:00 PM | Reply


Since nothing can be done to prevent or fight wild fires spread by high winds maybe these homes shouldn't be rebuilt and the land reverted to its natural desert state.
#42 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

Nothing can be done, and insurance should be cheap!
~ Lumpers

#47 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-10 01:02 PM | Reply

60 engines sent from OR yesterday to the Cali fires are not on the fire lines...yet.
www.opb.org

They've been ordered to submit to a DOT inspection in Sacramento that's scheduled for 4:30 pm today.
If they clear the inspection, they'll THEN be able to drive 400 miles to Pacific Palisades.

Nice! How many homes will burn down because of this ...

*shrug*
~ Lumpers

#48 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-10 01:24 PM | Reply

60 engines sent from OR yesterday to the Cali fires are not on the fire lines...yet.
www.opb.org

They've been ordered to submit to a DOT inspection in Sacramento that's scheduled for 4:30 pm today.
If they clear the inspection, they'll THEN be able to drive 400 miles to Pacific Palisades.

Nice! How many homes will burn down because of this ...

*shrug*
~ Lumpers

Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-10 01:24 PM | Reply

Just go away. You really don't give a crap. You're a Crisis Actor plain and simple.

#49 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-01-10 01:27 PM | Reply

Where did this money go?

Along with establishing the Community Wildfire Defense Grant Program, President Biden's Bipartisan Infrastructure Law provides an historic $3.5 billion investment in wildfire management through a suite of programs aimed at reducing wildfire risks, detecting wildfires, instituting firefighter workforce reforms, and increasing pay for federal wildland firefighters.
www.usda.gov

#50 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-10 01:56 PM | Reply


Just go away. You really don't give a crap. You're a Crisis Actor plain and simple.

#49 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR

Nah, I do care, I care about incompetence in how my tax money is spent, I have been claiming incompetence of California government for sometime.

You're the one that doesn't care, just by saying this, you want to stick your head in the sand.

What is a CrisisActor?

#51 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-10 01:58 PM | Reply

IAMRUNT is the MAGAt who cheered as his idol Leon BBQed a few teenagers.

www.usatoday.com

#52 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-01-10 02:08 PM | Reply

Chhuffy,
I'm not going to continue to take this thread off topic. Suffice it to say that you have deliberately mischaracterized my viewpoints and assigned positions to me that I do not hold. Your strawman is duly noted.

#53 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2025-01-10 02:10 PM | Reply

Miranda's viewpoint:

Women get abortions at 40 weeks in order to go on spring break.

#54 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-10 02:11 PM | Reply

You really don't give a crap. You're a Crisis Actor plain and simple.
#49 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR

He's been a desperate troll since day one.

#55 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-10 02:14 PM | Reply

Bummer.
#45 | POSTED BY 1LUMPYSHHT

You mean low income housing.
#46 | POSTED BY 1LUMPYSHHT

~ Lumpers
#47 | POSTED BY 1LUMPYSHHT

~ Lumpers
#48 | POSTED BY 1LUMPYSHHT

This deplorable Trumping MAGAt is going overtime reposting propaganda.

#56 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-10 02:18 PM | Reply

All good, MIRANDA7,

Not sure what strawman I'm building, given that I simply replied to your comment...

My request for you to "join me" in rejecting the climate change deniers, who helped get us here, appears to have been a step too far.

I hope your family is safe, it's going to get bad again later tonight/tomorrow, when the winds shift...

#57 | Posted by chuffy at 2025-01-10 03:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The way Putin's MAGA are going after Calfornia/DEI, it's time to stop questioning why the response was flawed, and start asking why MAGA loyalists started the fires to begin with....since we live in a world where facts don't matter anymore, it's as good a place to start as any.

#58 | Posted by chuffy at 2025-01-10 05:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Thank you Chuffy, perhaps I went too far also. Often it is assumed that because I am openly critical of certain policies on one side of the aisle, I support certain policies on the other side. I have the misfortune of being quite liberal on some topics and quite conservative on others. For the record, I am supportive of "sensible gun laws", but not convinced the proposals I have seen will do much to prevent mass shootings. (As an example, the changes to CT law lauded in the link below would not have stopped Adam Lanza).

giffords.org

Also, I am very serious about our need to protect planet Earth, I am not a climate change denier.

#59 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2025-01-10 05:50 PM | Reply

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