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Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Tuesday, January 28, 2025

American doctors are accusing US health insurance giants of causing deadly delays to vital medical procedures and care, putting profits ahead of their patients' health. Firms including United Healthcare (UHC) deny basic scans, then take months to reconsider. These kinds of delays literally kill people.

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People hold signs protesting the healthcare industry outside of the federal court house where Luigi Mangione was arraigned in NYC on 19 Dec 2024. (Photo: Justin Lane/EPA)

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The greedy profiteering US healthcare system will soon turn America into a "Luigi Mangione factory." Ask King Louis XVI or Czar Nicholas how things worked out for them.

#1 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-01-27 08:37 AM | Reply

"... putting profits ahead of their patients' health."

This is the nature of the Corporate Beast, the bean counter's Bottom Line is more important than, well, anything, really.

#2 | Posted by Corky at 2025-01-27 12:15 PM | Reply

Absolutely nothing new here.
More of that "best healthcare in the world" they keep telling you about.

#3 | Posted by morris at 2025-01-27 03:44 PM | Reply

Guess I'm one of the lucky one as have always gotten the good competent doctors : )

#4 | Posted by MSgt at 2025-01-28 08:55 AM | Reply

Meanwhile in Canada

New data reveals over 15,000 Canadians died in 2023-24 while stuck on waitlists for surgeries or diagnostic scans.

#5 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-28 11:24 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

New data reveals over 15,000 Canadians died in 2023-24 while stuck on waitlists for surgeries or diagnostic scans.

#5 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

Old data reveals that 17,000 Americans die each year waiting.

Plus 26,000 to 45,000 Americans die each year due to Lack of Healthcare.

Meanwhile ... According to the CFPB, 100 million Americans owe $220 billion in medical debt and are severely impacted financially or are at risk of bankruptcy.

GFY commie.

#6 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-01-28 11:48 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Meanwhile in Canada
New data reveals over 15,000 Canadians died in 2023-24 while stuck on waitlists for surgeries or diagnostic scans.
#5 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-28 11:24 AM

I consider anyone opposed to Universal Healthcare an enemy to humanity.

#7 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-01-28 01:54 PM | Reply

"New data reveals over 15,000 Canadians died in 2023-24 while stuck on waitlists for surgeries or diagnostic scans."

Canada has 311K deaths per year; that's ~850 per day. You'll get to 15,000 on day 18.

I'd assume "closer to death" = "more likely to need surgeries or diagnoses".

#8 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-01-28 02:57 PM | Reply

Meanwhile in Canada

New data reveals over 15,000 Canadians died in 2023-24 while stuck on waitlists for surgeries or diagnostic scans.

#5 | Posted by oneironaut

Number of working class canadians who would rather have our healthcare system: 0.

Why is that?

#9 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-01-28 03:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

1LumpyShht prefers paying for CEO bonuses.

America doesn't have healthcare, we have for profit care.

Deny, Delay, Depose!

Capitalism demands it!

#10 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-28 03:12 PM | Reply

With Obamacare I pay 24,000 in premiums, 3000 per person deductible and 18000 max out of pocket. The max oop is easy to reach if you need a drug from the specialty pharmacy. The specialty pharmacy is owned by the PBM (Pharmacy Benefit Manager) which is owned by the insurance company. It's money laundering designed to skirt the rules of the ACA. I'm not sure if the insurance company is owned by the Democrats or if the Democrats own the insurance company.

#11 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-01-28 03:20 PM | Reply

Don't you worry. Once Trump breaks it, you won't be able to afford healthcare any longer.

#12 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-28 03:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

With Obamacare I pay 24,000 in premiums, 3000 per person deductible and 18000 max out of pocket. The max oop is easy to reach if you need a drug from the specialty pharmacy. The specialty pharmacy is owned by the PBM (Pharmacy Benefit Manager) which is owned by the insurance company. It's money laundering designed to skirt the rules of the ACA. I'm not sure if the insurance company is owned by the Democrats or if the Democrats own the insurance company.

#11 | Posted by visitor_

When is trump fixing it with his secret plan for better cheaper healthcare that he said he couldnt tell us about until after the election? (the 2016 election that is).

#13 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-01-28 03:33 PM | Reply

"With Obamacare I pay 24,000 in premiums, 3000 per person deductible and 18000 max out of pocket."

With those numbers, I can roughly tell your age and marital status.

Do you need the Marketplace? In general, the first rule of Obamacare is only use it if you're getting a subsidy; there are often better, cheaper plans available OUTSIDE the Marketplace.

Also...I can relate about hitting the max OOP based on a specialty drug. After my heart attack, I was placed on Brillinta, at $1,100 per prescription. I remember in October handing over my credit card (after offering blood from my arm) and the pharmacist said, "Oh, no charge...you've reached your annual limit".

If that happens to you, do what I did: schedule every possible doctor's appointment you need before the end of the year! I got vision tests and audiology tests, leading to a $6,000 pair of hearing aids costing NOTHING out of pocket.

#14 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-01-28 03:43 PM | Reply

"When is trump fixing it with his secret plan"

Don't rush him! He's got concepts of a plan.

And he's got thoughts about those concepts. Many thoughts; big thoughts; big, beautiful thoughts.

Nobody ever knew health care could be this complicated.

#15 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-01-28 03:46 PM | Reply

I'll shop harder, I didn't realize that out of market rates could be lower. One of us hits our max out of pocket in March and gets everything "free" after that. Don't get sick.

#16 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-01-28 03:57 PM | Reply

Trump doesn't have a plan and never did.

The current system makes a lot of people a lot money, and those people wrote rules and they'll write the new rules too.

#17 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-01-28 04:02 PM | Reply

" One of us hits our max out of pocket in March and gets everything "free" after that."

Don't tell yourself that; tell yourself you paid for it, over all those years. And don't forget to keep totally up on every doctor visit, diagnostic test, etc. Everything your plan covers ... In your case, it's very worth it to learn what they offer, particularly what they cover once you've hit the oop limit.

#18 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-01-28 04:05 PM | Reply

One more thing: it would behoove you to get an HSA, a health savings account. You would have to be covered by an HSA plan (which yours sounds like), but you get the advantage of the equivalent of a tax deduction, just for putting the money into the HSA.

And if you can't afford to max out your HSA ...
Once in your life you're allowed to transfer up to the HSA max into your HSA account from a taxable IRA, without paying income taxes on that transfer.

#19 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-01-28 04:08 PM | Reply

That's Good advice.

#20 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-01-28 04:33 PM | Reply

I wouldn't be surprised if jury nullification or a mistrial occurs when Luigi Mangione, the killer of the United Healthcare executive, is tried.

#21 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2025-01-28 04:56 PM | Reply

Visitor, you're sounding almost reasonable on this thread. :)

#22 | Posted by cbob at 2025-01-28 05:08 PM | Reply

Trump doesn't have a plan and never did.

#17 | Posted by visitor_

Wow that's quite a massive intentional lie then. What other massive intentional lies do you think he's told?

#23 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-01-28 05:28 PM | Reply

Maybe a few more CEOs need to take a dirt nap

#24 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-01-28 09:42 PM | Reply

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