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Sunday, June 29, 2025

American households that make about $250,000 or more are typically considered to be in the top 10% of earners. Many in that bracket realize that the number sounds huge - and by many measures, affluent Americans are indeed thriving. Yet the top-line figures can mask a sense of financial fragility in many high-earning families.

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Still just one major illness away from losing everything.

Something to be said for having a strong social system, as many of these folks will find out.

#1 | Posted by censored at 2025-06-29 12:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Just depends where one lives as if living in NYC, LA, Chiago, that is not a a lot of money.

#2 | Posted by MSgt at 2025-06-29 02:11 PM | Reply

You're a ------- idiot.

#3 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-06-29 02:31 PM | Reply

that is not a a lot of money.

#2 | Posted by MSgt

That's still a fair living, even in those places.

They need to stop spending everything they have just to keep up appearances.

#4 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2025-06-29 02:38 PM | Reply

Just depends where one lives as if living in NYC, LA, Chiago, that is not a a lot of money.
#2 | Posted by MSgt

There's something to that.

$100K is 'low income' in Five California counties

Residents making an annual income of up to $109,700 who are living in Marin, San Francisco, San Mateo, Santa Clara and Santa Cruz counties are considered low income, according to the California Department of Housing & Community Development. Topping the list is Santa Clara County, the home of Silicon Valley's tech industry, which designates $111,700 as low income.

For a three-person household - say, two parents with one child - earning a combined six-figure salary is also considered low income in an additional 11 counties: Alameda, Contra Costa, Los Angeles, Monterey, Napa, Orange, San Diego, San Luis Obispo, Santa Barbara, Sonoma and Ventura counties.

#5 | Posted by censored at 2025-06-29 03:32 PM | Reply

That's not much for a two income houssehold even the Midwest. It's decent but not great.

#6 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-06-29 03:58 PM | Reply

Here is the difference - $125K/year when you are 50 with your student loans paid off, cars paid off, house paid off, and kids out of the house - you will have a very good lifestyle.

Meanwhile, if you are 30 with all of those bills still in front of you, $250K will cover expenses but you will not feel rich.

And the people that I know that got wiped out at that $250K income level have 1 of 2 main issues (not medical debt):

1.) Autistic kid
2.) Divorce

So, I think it is not a surprise upper earners are not rushing to get married and have kids.

#7 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-06-29 07:52 PM | Reply

@#7 ... Meanwhile, if you are 30 with all of those bills still in front of you, $250K will cover expenses but you will not feel rich. ...

How much should one earn per year for that person, in your opinion, to "feel rich?"


#8 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-06-29 07:55 PM | Reply

"#8 | Posted by LampLighter"

$500K or more. If you are making $250K at 30 and married, you need to grind for another 15 years+ to stack a $1.0M+ in assets. At $250K in Wisconsin (say Milwaukee), your after tax net is ~$170K or $14K/month.

Average home price: ~$700K in the suburbs, monthly payment including PTI: $5,500
Home maintenance (1%/year) = $7000/year = $600/month
Cellphone and cable/internet = $200/month
Assume student loan payment of $500/month X 2 people = $1,000
Assume care payment at $1000/month X 2 people = $2,000
Gas for cars: $150/month X 2 people = $300
Assume heat/gas at $300/month
Average cost for meals: $300/month X 2 = $600

So, after these typical bills, you are at $3,500/month or ~$42,000 per year before any other spending on vacation, buying household items, clothing, or kids, etc. That is not living rich AT 30. But, once they are 45 and your income goes from $250K to $389K in 15 years (3% yearly increase), and the house payment is now only 17% of gross income rather than 26%. Also, their savings start to compound. Assuming they could save 50% of their $42,000/year (assume loans paid off after 5 years with yearly increases), that should be worth $1.025M at 10% savings rate. Also, their house should be worth (3% yearly increase) $1.1M and the remaining mortgage will be ~$480K meaning they will have $620K in home equity. So, savings + home equity = $1.65M AT 45 so they can start to feel a little more rich. However, any job insecurities, overspending, or kids will put a big dent in this. I should note, that $1.65M in net worth would be ~$1.1M in today's money assuming 2.5% annual inflation.

#9 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-06-29 08:40 PM | Reply

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