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Tuesday, March 04, 2025

The world economy could face a crash similar to the Great Depression of the 1930s unless the U.S. rows back on its plans to impose steep tariffs on imports, a senior official at the International Chamber of Commerce warned.

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For your planning purposes, thanks to the useless pile of human feces and business moron we call Trump, the 21st Century version of the Great Depression will start Thursday. At about eight o'clock.

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-- Keith Olbermann (@olbermann.bsky.social) March 4, 2025 at 1:16 PM

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Wow... those libs at the WSJ are lying about Trump again!

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-04 01:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Klansman Fred Trump isn't around to bail out the orange turd from another economic debacle.

#2 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-03-04 01:51 PM | Reply

Best. President. Ever.

#3 | Posted by hamburglar at 2025-03-04 03:47 PM | Reply

Risks?

Intends.

Trump intends sending world into New Great Depression.

This is the plan, if you haven't noticed yet, that's not something I can help you with.

#4 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-03-04 03:54 PM | Reply

Tariff Man:

Investors and consumers expected President Donald Trump to be a pro-business billionaire. What they got instead was Tariff Man.

Everyone should have seen this coming. Trump often talked about tariffs on the campaign trail. He also threatened tariffs after he was elected. Then, he threatened more tariffs after he was sworn in. And yet, investors " like everyone else " weren't sure how seriously to take those warnings until this week.

"They're believing him more now," said Neil Dutta, head of U.S. economic research at Renaissance Macro Research. "He finally shot the hostage."

Trump's move to shatter supply chains across North America is a stunning development, no matter how foreseeable, and it's changing the U.S. outlook fast. The U.S. economy was not entirely out of the inflation woods when Trump took office, but steady consumer spending and a low unemployment rate normally provide a healthy buffer against smaller economic shocks.

But throwing new tariffs on top of broader policy uncertainty and potential economic ripple effects from Elon Musk's Department of Government Efficiency will mean a hit to growth. The question is how large of a hit it will ultimately be.


www.politico.com

#5 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-03-04 03:56 PM | Reply

The Trump administrationis going to repeat history just a little shot of the 100th anniversary of the Great Republican Depression of 1929.

#6 | Posted by danni at 2025-03-04 04:34 PM | Reply

Fat Turd went short, then Thursday when he changes his mind the markets will soar.

It's all manipulated.

#7 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-03-04 04:41 PM | Reply

Biden's Fault!:

Republicans Against Trumpism @rpsagainsttrump.bsky.social

BREAKING: The S&P 500 has now completely erased all gains since the election, wiping out $3.4 trillion in market value.

Make America great again!

#8 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-03-04 05:11 PM | Reply

"Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain."

Friedrich von Schiller

#9 | Posted by SomebodyElse at 2025-03-04 05:19 PM | Reply

- wiping out $3.4 trillion in market value.

More Success for Trump to trumpet tonight!

Unless he lies instead about how great his economy is.... and how it isn't true that it would be a lot better right now if he wasn't President.

I expect to this to be a Fact-Free speech with upwards of 100 document lies.

Fortunately for him, his Base couldn't care less; they obviously love being lied to by Big Daddy.

#10 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-04 05:30 PM | Reply

Are the tariffs Pres Trump has placed upon Canada and Mexico violating the law, i.e., the treaty (USMCA) he himself signed during his first term?

Is the USMCA really "The Best Trade Deal Ever"? (December 18, 2019)
www.milkenreview.org

... What did three years of sturm und drang achieve? Little of note, in economic terms, but definitely something in political terms. Trump tweeted:

[USMCA] will be the best and most important trade deal ever made by the USA. Good for everybody -- Farmers, Manufacturers, Energy, Unions -- tremendous support. Importantly, we will finally end our Country's worst Trade Deal, Nafta!

Trump has often found that making the same assertion repeatedly gives it a sheen of verisimilitude. ...




#11 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-04 06:38 PM | Reply

@#11 ... Are the tariffs Pres Trump has placed upon Canada and Mexico violating the law, i.e., the treaty (USMCA) he himself signed ...

If that is correct, I have to ask ...

Why would any country sign a treaty with the United States in the future?


#12 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-04 07:25 PM | Reply

Why did any country Ever sign a treaty with the US?

We Break them All!

#13 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-03-04 08:05 PM | Reply

@#13 ... Why did any country Ever sign a treaty with the US?

We Break them All! ...

... and the "we" in the comment is Russia?


#14 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-04 08:07 PM | Reply

This is SO stupid. I can't think of a single reason to impose tariffs on Canada or Mexico. Smoot-Hawley exacerbated and extended the Great Depression. This royally pisses me off. Where in the eff is Trump's inner-circle on this?

Dems, here you go - politically you've been gift-wrapped the perfect mid-term issue and can potentially carry it to 2028. I know that this isn't the path that you'd like to have for victory, but take it nonetheless.

#15 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-03-04 10:09 PM | Reply

These tariffs aren't even going to last thru the week. It benefts no one and everyone involved will agree.

But to Lamp's point, why would anyone negotiate a deal with the US? Although this is Trump's deal - I thought I heard that it was at a point where it could be "rengotiated". I could be incorrect.

#16 | Posted by brass30 at 2025-03-04 10:28 PM | Reply

@#15 ... I can't think ...

Stating the obvious?
:)


#17 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-04 10:29 PM | Reply


@#16 ... These tariffs aren't even going to last thru the week. ...

Yeah, I had a similar view last month when the tariffs were first imposed and then Pres trump backed down.

Will Pres trump back down again?

But, looking at the tariffs, I have one big question ...

What, exactly and specifically, are Pres Trumps demands upon, reasons for violating the treaty, the two allies who signed his treaty in good faith?

So far, all I've seen is ambiguous posturing.

Anyone got specifics?


#18 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-04 10:34 PM | Reply

"What, exactly and specifically, are Pres Trumps demands..."

Chaos.

He creates it, and no doubt bets futures markets by timing his announcements.

I used to point out if HP opens at 87, stays at 87, and closes at 87, nobody makes any money. It's the swings where fortunes are made or lost.

The first time around, Trump and his minions manipulated the strong dollar weaker, and (no doubt) bet the markets would move that way.

Now he's realized that's a pittance, compared to futures markets...when you already know the outcome and the timing.

#19 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-03-04 11:36 PM | Reply

@#19 ... Chaos. ...

Yeah, as I have posted a few times in the past ...

Intentional chaos or incompetence.

I seem to be agreeing with the chaos aspect. But, at this point, I have to say, only a 60/40 agreement.

... I used to point out if HP opens at 87, stays at 87, and closes at 87, nobody makes any money. It's the swings where fortunes are made or lost.

The first time around, Trump and his minions manipulated the strong dollar weaker, and (no doubt) bet the markets would move that way.

Now he's realized that's a pittance, compared to futures markets...when you already know the outcome and the timing. ...

Whoa, that's a lot to digest ... :)

Let me take one item at a time ...

... The first time around, Trump and his minions manipulated the strong dollar weaker ...

Hasn't Pres Trump said he wants a weak dollar?

Trump Wants the Dollar to Be Mighty But Weak. It Makes No Sense.
www.barrons.com

... President Donald Trump's views on the role and level of the U.S. dollar recall a famous claim by the novelist F. Scott Fitzgerald. "The test of a first-rate intelligence," Fitzgerald wrote, "is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in the mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function." Assuming the president's policy hyperactivity is evidence of functioning, we are witnessing a first-rate intelligence in action.

Either that or a devastating disproof of Fitzgerald's claim.

Both Trump and Vice President JD Vance have, for some years, been outspoken in support of a weaker dollar ...


Let's start there ....

#20 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-04 11:56 PM | Reply

That's the goal.

Putin told his bitch to sink the western economy as retribution for sanctions on Russia.

Like a good little lapdog he's following orders.

#21 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-03-05 07:26 AM | Reply

This is SO stupid. I can't think of a single reason to impose tariffs on Canada or Mexico. Smoot-Hawley exacerbated and extended the Great Depression. This royally pisses me off. Where in the eff is Trump's inner-circle on this?

They're profiting, dumba*&. Why do you think they're there?

#22 | Posted by jpw at 2025-03-06 10:32 AM | Reply

Trump is Hallucinatin'... He's beyond the Pale.

Tariffs are a fixation on his Demented brain.

He's not all there, if you have noticed.

Caligula seemed Stable next to Trump.

How long until he puts a Walrus on the Supreme Court and Congress confirms it?

It's not far beyond the realm of possibilities.

#23 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-03-06 03:16 PM | Reply

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