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Thursday, September 04, 2025

And outside the realm of economics, the United States has just experienced a spectacular diplomatic disaster. America has spent decades trying to cultivate good relations with India, which could be a useful counterweight to China.

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The world will go on without the United States.

Trump, and Republicans, never thought of that.

#1 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-02 08:36 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 10

You might say that the Trump administration is suffering from a richness of embarrassments.

Like it or not, it's the United States suffering from a "richness of embarrassments."

Even though only 25% voted for this nonsense, 100% of us are held liable for it.

#2 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-02 10:01 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 12

"the United States has just experienced a spectacular diplomatic disaster"

Not even the first in the Trump series.

#3 | Posted by Zed at 2025-09-02 11:13 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

The world will go on without the United States.

Trump, and Republicans, never thought of that.

#1 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

They are stupid and arrogant people.

Much better to suffer as Americans from honest mistakes rather than these ignorant, unforced errors.

#4 | Posted by Zed at 2025-09-02 11:15 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Richard Wolff on China, BRICS, and the US economy's immediate future:

www.youtube.com

#5 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-02 12:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

"That's the way capitalism is set up.
Okay?

They long ago understood the
people at the top what they have to do
because we have a political system that
is a little odd to go with a top-down
economic system.

In our political system, we have universal suffrage.
Everybody gets one vote. Well, the vast
majority of people, 97%
are not employers. 3% are.

It would be
easy to mobilize a majority of the 97%
to limit the wealth of the 3%.

In fact,
you would expect that to happen because
the 3% are the ones with all the money
and the 97% are the ones who control the
majority in the voting.

The ruling class
of 3% do in America. They bought the
government, of course. That's how they
protect their situation in a world of
universal suffrage.

And how did they do
it? They did it with two political
parties.

Each of them depends on the 3%
for their money, the donor class, if you
like, the 3%. And now they divide.

Half
of them go to the right and mobilize and
mass support, you know, for things like
guns and white supremacy and against
abortion and all of that. and the other
ones they go for more liberal
progressive social welfare all of that
and minorities and women and so we have
two parties both of whom control the
mass of the vote.

Now, the punchline,
what the system does is it goes to the
rich people, says, "You're the donors.
We won't tax you."

Then it goes each
party to its mass base. We'll take care
of you. We'll give you this. We'll give
you that.

Here's the problem. You can't
buy the mass of people unless you tax
where the wealth is.

But there is a way
out. In the craziness of capitalism, you
don't tax the wealthy. You do provide
for the mass of people.

And the way you
do it is you go to the wealthy and you
say, "Since we didn't tax you, you have
all this money. Please lend it to us.

We'll give it back to you after a few
years, plus pay you interest while you
wait." That's called the deficit.

And
the reason we have a deficit is a
deference to those at the top to not tax
them to pay for the masses.

I'll give
you one simple example. Elon Musk, the
last I looked, has $350 billion or more
of personal wealth.

If you taxed away,
because we, the majority, voted for it.

If you taxed away half his money, he'd
still be the richest person on Earth,
but the government would have $250
billion with which to solve social
problems.

(the last few minutes of the above link)

#6 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-02 01:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Re 6

Yup. Nailed it.

Americans are now either in complete denial or are just not paying attention or are not able to pay attention or are actively engaged in perpetuating Trumpy's Big Lies.

This is why foreign agitators like OneNut are so gleeful. They can see what's coming while we dither and fight amongst ourselves.

Champagne corks are popping all over. Just not here.

#7 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-09-02 01:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

#7

The link analysis is mostly about the failing US and the rising BRIC+ coalitions... sounds like you might have seen and understood the whole thing before.

I still need to listen to people like Wolff to make heads or tails of world economics; I pretty well understand ours.

#8 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-02 01:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The Chinese are not a stupid people.

And there are 1.43 billion of them. They have access to the same technology we have. Including AI. So it was only a matter of time.

And the time is now. And NOW was the worst time for America to FAFO. For so many reasons. This is definitely one of them.

I did listen to the link. Thank you for that.

I am not expert that's for sure. That's why I also like listening to intelligent people talking about what's really going on in the world.

Sadly. None of leaders are currently on that list.

#9 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-09-02 02:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

#9
One of the channels I sub did a tour of the newest Disney, the one in Shanghai; they are an Australian family with little kids, and were in China for a couple of months.

www.youtube.com

Cant Believe This is China (Avatar Mountains in Zhangjiajie)

www.youtube.com

I never knew those mountains existed!

#10 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-02 02:16 PM | Reply

If anyone needs further proof of America's demise, look no further than BRICS and the rest of the world moving on without us.

We're even losing long time allies like Canada and European nations who've been steadfast for decades.

Congratulations MAGA!

Happy extinction, America.

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-02 02:55 PM | Reply

#11: Happy extinction, America.

Thank you MAGA voters for handing the keys of our house to both Russia and the superrich. And especially thank you AIPAC Democrats for steadfastly kowtowing to Israel which has split the progressive opposition to the status quo. We see this enfolding in the microcosm of the NYC Mayoral race. Don't believe me? See how many AIPAC Democrats are supporting their fellow Democrat poor Zohran Mamdani. Just one: Congressman Jerry Nadler (78) and he's retiring in 2026.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/55OSjhYQQlU/hq720.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEhCK4FEIIDSFryq4qpAxMIARUAAAAAGAElAADIQj0AgKJD&rs=AOn4CLDAD1HQ6AGXOKrXuAzWcvI5fayn9w

#12 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-09-02 03:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Sadly. None of (our current) leaders are currently on that list.

#9 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

FTFM

#13 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-09-02 04:17 PM | Reply

The combination of arrogance and stupidity makes this president the single biggest threat to America in it's history.

#14 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-09-04 10:52 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#14 | I believe that honor goes to Chief Traitor John Roberts.

#15 | Posted by Yodagirl at 2025-09-04 12:03 PM | Reply

Yes, leave it to liberals to try to inject murdering parents as an orphan into a conversation about highly debatable trade laws that aren't clear and require many courts to be involved in order to translate them.

#16 | Posted by humtake at 2025-09-04 12:54 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#16 | Posted by humtake. Which has what to do with an article on our country's diplomatic isolation under trump?

#17 | Posted by Yodagirl at 2025-09-04 02:53 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Elon Musk, the
last I looked, has $350 billion or more
of personal wealth.

#6 | Posted by Corky

Now do the rothschilds.

#18 | Posted by easy_meat at 2025-09-04 03:12 PM | Reply

conspiracy nut.

#19 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-04 03:12 PM | Reply

All that work blowing smoke up India so we could USE them as a weapon against their neighbor, wasted!
How come nobody trusts us?! We have candy!

#20 | Posted by easy_meat at 2025-09-04 03:15 PM | Reply

too easy. so long and thanks for all the plonks.

#21 | Posted by easy_meat at 2025-09-04 03:45 PM | Reply

We have candy!
#20 | POSTED BY EASY_MEAT

Of course you do, pedo.

#22 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-04 03:47 PM | Reply

The world will go on without the United States.

How did I miss this?

The dinosaurs ruled the world for 150 million years. Humans have only "ruled" it for a couple of hundred years.

Turns out the world would actually be much better off WITHOUT humans.

Humans should really think about that.

Humans have been a dominant force shaping the planet for the last 3,000 to 50,000 years, with the idea of the "Anthropocene""a new geological epoch defined by human influence"being widely debated but increasingly aligned with the industrial and atomic ages, which began roughly 200 to 250 years ago, according to a Scientific American article.
www.scientificamerican.com

#23 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-09-04 04:09 PM | Reply

Could Putin, Xi or Modi possibly make it any clearer that they believe the USA, under Trump, is a joke? Clearly they are telling the world that nobody takes the US seriously. We can be laughed at and disregarded so long as Trump remains "in charge". In my lifetime, the USA has never been so ridiculed and disregarded.

MAGA built this.

#24 | Posted by moder8 at 2025-09-05 06:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Diplomatic disaster.

Let's just say that Trump has been sent to the kiddy table while grownup talk.

#25 | Posted by Twinpac at 2025-09-06 02:00 AM | Reply

MODER8

Just an assumption but I think that may have been the motive behind that spectacular display of unity we just saw in China this week. It's hard for me to believe that the 3 of them want to permanently eliminate the USA as a trading partner. Rather, it's Trump and his battering ram approach to trade agreements that they can no longer tolerate.

Have they taught him a lesson? Doubtful. Trump is too thickheaded to admit failure. But their tactics will hopefully speed up the process of eliminating Trump and returning things to normal.

#26 | Posted by Twinpac at 2025-09-06 07:41 AM | Reply

MAGA(fP): By Trump's strong faith in Putin and the Russian oligarchs, Trump's version of MAGA is "Make America Great again, (for Putin)"

The KGB could never have been so lucky as it has been with Donald J Trump! Brainwashed to think our allies are enemies and that our career civil service is corrupt and that Trump's bigotry is wisdom, Trump admits he gets "more reliable intelligence from Russia" than from US intel agencies.

If so, it's likely his Putin inspired advice is aimed to destroy America's global influence and credibility. And it's working! It's. Even working to the extent that JD Vance is calling for Europeans to support pro-Rusian political parties like AFP, snd ethers across Europe & South America.

#27 | Posted by Augustine at 2025-09-06 08:03 AM | Reply

AUGUSTINE

I don't think Trump has a strong faith in Putin any more ~ which, incidentally, came a long time after Putin had already lost faith in "President" Trump.

They're both users. It was only a matter of time before one or the other showed his hand. Putin, the smarter of the two, just beat Trump to it.

They're both going to do everything they can to hang on to their power base, at home and abroad.

With Trump, of course, having destroyed America's relations with our allies, it's a long road back and it's all uphill ~ if ever.

#28 | Posted by Twinpac at 2025-09-06 09:23 AM | Reply

My children and grandchildren will read about all this in history books and shake their heads: how could so many people be so stupid as to vote for this man Trump, much less multiple times? And their teacher or professor will smile sadly and say: "cult mentality, when mixed with racism and economic anxiety ignorance is a lethal mixture, just like it was in 1920s and 1030s Germany."

#29 | Posted by e1g1 at 2025-09-06 12:35 PM | Reply

My children and grandchildren will read about all this in history books and shake their heads ..

Maybe.

Or they may be only be allowed to read about the Glorious Exploits of Dear Leader as he saved the world from radical leftists and rid the world of democracy and cured the world from the "woke virus" to become the greatest emperor of the thousand years of "peace".

His statues and images will be everywhere cajoling you to "Enjoy the Emperor's Peace".

#30 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-09-06 12:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

DONNER

"His statues and images will be everywhere cajoling you to "Enjoy the Emperor's Peace".

Do you really think Trump will make it that far? He seems to be sliding backwards.

#31 | Posted by Twinpac at 2025-09-06 03:37 PM | Reply

He seems to be sliding backwards.

He'll liken himself to FDR the first time he shows up in a wheelchair.

#32 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-09-06 03:45 PM | Reply

#32: When Dummkopf Trumpf was under investigation and facing several civil lawsuits, he likened himself to Nelson Mandela. So, why shouldn't the walking orange compost pile compare himself to FDR when he can no longer amble about and win all of those senior golf championships?

https://pics.craiyon.com/2023-10-06/78546f633a2e4fffbfe242d7827a4d3c.webp

#33 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-09-06 04:04 PM | Reply

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